Terminus, Galactus, Onslaught, and Tyrant vs DC Universe

Truthfully, Galactus and onslaught are the only real threats here. Yuga Khan and Krona would walk all over the marvel team by themselves. Remember Yuga Khan absorbs planets and life forces without a machine like Galactus. So theoretically he could drain Galactus and the rest. And Krona is even more powerful. Now take into account that Terminus is a JLA level threat and onslaught is not what i would consider a threat with the like of Superman, Martian manhunter, Black Adam, Shazam, Superboy prime, the GL Corp, Sinestro Corp ec.... and nobody said it had to be just heroes, DC has some incredibly powerful villians too, like Despero, Mongul, Neron. So this is nowhere near a wash. Not to Mention Darkseid and the new gods. Also the Quintessence consiting of Ganthet, the wizard Shazam, High Father and the Phantom stranger

Originally posted by mrhrobinson
Truthfully, Galactus and onslaught are the only real threats here. Yuga Khan and Krona would walk all over the marvel team by themselves. Remember Yuga Khan absorbs planets and life forces without a machine like Galactus. So theoretically he could drain Galactus and the rest. And Krona is even more powerful.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
none of this

But really, taking everyone above the Spectre out makes this mildly difficult, especially since Crispus Spectre (the most recent) was weaksauce.

But the numbers aren't there for the Marvel team. All the Lords of Order and Chaos, all the Corps, all of Earth's heroes...this is already overkill.

But to continue:
The entire 4th World
Most of Heaven/Hell
Cosmic bad guys (Despero, Starro, etc)
Trigon & Co.
Gods (Olympians and such)
Amazo
John Constantine
Time Trapper
Etc.

Originally posted by Cogito

But really, taking everyone above the Spectre out makes this mildly difficult, especially since Crispus Spectre (the most recent) was weaksauce.

But the numbers aren't there for the Marvel team. All the Lords of Order and Chaos, all the Corps, all of Earth's heroes...this is already overkill.

But to continue:
The entire 4th World
Most of Heaven/Hell
Cosmic bad guys (Despero, Starro, etc)
Trigon & Co.
Gods (Olympians and such)
Amazo
John Constantine
Time Trapper
Etc.

Nekron

Originally posted by armandovalles
Anyone at Spectre's level or above is excluded from this fight. (That includes the Spectre himself.)

Originally posted by Cogito
Nekron

So Nekron is below Spectre now?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
So Nekron is below Spectre now?

Originally posted by zopzop
Isn't Spectre the LT of the DCU (especially when fully backed by his boss)?

Hell, Spectre got turned into a Black Lantern in that arc and was treated like a baby by Nekron, and pretty much everyone else.

But if you insist, I'm willing to say Nekron is weaker than Spectre. Although if that's the case, he definitely does not in any way solo.

Johns was brutal on Spectre. Like he was personally going out of his way to trash Spectre's rep. No idea why he treated him so poorly. I found it pretty funny how he went back and retconned Spectre's fight with Shazam to the Wizard being weakened.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Johns was brutal on Spectre. Like he was personally going out of his way to trash Spectre's rep. No idea why he treated him so poorly.

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I found it pretty funny how he went back and retconned Spectre's fight with Shazam to the Wizard being weakened.

Doesn't even make sense, because Nabu was the more powerful than Shazam and the Spectre killed him too.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
haha, no.

Hell, Spectre got turned into a Black Lantern in that arc and was treated like a baby by Nekron, and pretty much everyone else.

But if you insist, I'm willing to say Nekron is weaker than Spectre. Although if that's the case, he definitely does not in any way solo.

And Nekron does solo. I put him in the same league as Eternity/Infinity/Death/Oblivion, a universal abstract.

Originally posted by zopzop
Wait, aren't there different hosts for the Spectre and they determine his power level?

And Nekron does solo. I put him in the same league as Eternity/Infinity/Death/Oblivion, a universal abstract.

Then why would you put Nekron below Spectre?

Originally posted by zopzop
Wait, aren't there different hosts for the Spectre and they determine his power level?

And Nekron does solo. I put him in the same league as Eternity/Infinity/Death/Oblivion, a universal abstract.

Yeah, the different hosts have displayed varying levels of power to some degree. Different writers have him all of the map, too.

Some of his most powerful incarnations were being comparable in power to COIE Anti-Monitor and comparable in power to ZH Parallax. His very peak is probably with the Logoz, but I'm not too well versed in that.

Overall, Jim Corrigan Spectre >>> Hal Spectre => Hostless Spectre > Crispus Spectre, IMO.

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And Nekron would solo. But who cares because he can't be here, and DC wins anyways.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Scan?

Then why would you put Nekron below Spectre?

Originally posted by Cogito
Yeah, the different hosts have displayed varying levels of power to some degree. Different writers have him all of the map, too.

Some of his most powerful incarnations were being comparable in power to COIE Anti-Monitor and comparable in power to ZH Parallax. His very peak is probably with the Logoz, but I'm not too well versed in that.

Overall, Jim Corrigan Spectre >>> Hal Spectre => Hostless Spectre > Crispus Spectre, IMO.

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And Nekron would solo. But who cares because he can't be here, and DC wins anyways.

Wait a second here...

You put Spectre on the level of LT, but you think Lucifer loses to Chaos King? You realize Michael has utterly dominated Spectre twice, and Lucifer has beaten Michael, don't you?

Oh zopzop

Originally posted by zopzop
During the canon DC/Marvel crossover he appeared to be LT's equivalent in DCU. I'd put the LT above Nekron (and I'm saying this as a hardcore Nekron fan).

That was really only during the crossover. I can list at least a dozen characters more powerful than Spectre without even trying.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Wait a second here...

You put Spectre on the level of LT, but you think Lucifer loses to Chaos King? You realize Michael has utterly dominated Spectre twice, and Lucifer has beaten Michael, don't you?

Oh zopzop

Originally posted by zopzop
During the canon DC/Marvel crossover he appeared to be LT's equivalent in DCU. I'd put the LT above Nekron (and I'm saying this as a hardcore Nekron fan).

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Originally posted by Cogito
That was really only during the crossover. I can list at least a dozen characters more powerful than Spectre without even trying.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Hell, Libra made a joke out of Spectre

Well, that was with the Spear of Destiny, not Libra 😬

Spear of Destiny is the Spectre's kryptonite