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zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Wait a second here...
You put Spectre on the level of LT, but you think Lucifer loses to Chaos King? You realize Michael has utterly dominated Spectre twice, and Lucifer has beaten Michael, don't you?
Oh zopzop

I'm pretty sure Spectre wasn't backed by his boss and what incarnation of the Spectre was it at the time (because that makes a difference).

CK >>>>>>>Lucifer AND Michael.

Branlor Swift Dead

Originally posted by Cogito
Well, that was with the Spear of Destiny, not Libra 😬
Spear of Destiny is the Spectre's kryptonite

All Libra had was his staff at the time

Cogito Senior Member

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
All Libra had was his staff at the time

I'd have to go back, but I'm pretty sure the Spear was involved somehow.

Originally posted by zopzop
I'm pretty sure Spectre wasn't backed by his boss and what incarnation of the Spectre was it at the time (because that makes a difference).
CK >>>>>>>Lucifer AND Michael.

Fail much? The Spectre doesn't get "backed" by God. That's pretty much a myth. And that last bit is just trolling.

Branlor Swift Dead

Originally posted by zopzop
I'm pretty sure Spectre wasn't backed by his boss and what incarnation of the Spectre was it at the time (because that makes a difference).
CK >>>>>>>Lucifer AND Michael.

You're pretty Spectre wasn't backed by God? So, Spectre simply didn't exist at the time?
You also have a scan of God ever backing Spectre and giving him more power?

That doesn't even make sense considering what you're saying here.

Spectre = LT >>>>> Eternity = CK >>>>>>> Lucifer AND Michael

Even though Michael has ruined the shit out of Spectre twice.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by Cogito
Fail much? The Spectre doesn't get "backed" by God. That's pretty much a myth. And that last bit is just trolling.

Cry more?

Spectre is all over the place power wise. A serious COIE Spectre could have taken out a mutliversal power in the AM, other versions have him getting Batkicked in the face.

It's not trolling if it's true, CK would sodomize those two limp wrists.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
You're pretty Spectre wasn't backed by God? So, Spectre simply didn't exist at the time?
You also have a scan of God ever backing Spectre and giving him more power?
That doesn't even make sense considering what you're saying here.
Spectre = LT >>>>> Eternity = CK >>>>>>> Lucifer AND Michael
Even though Michael has ruined the shit out of Spectre twice.

I view CK as > Eternity but < LT.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by Cogito
Well, that was with the Spear of Destiny, not Libra 😬
Spear of Destiny is the Spectre's kryptonite

I don't think he had the Spear of Destiny in this scene. Was it ever further explained why Libra made Spectre his b*tch aside from being Eternal? I'm not even sure if he was Herald level in power but Final Crisis was sometime ago. Either way, hilarious stuff.

Branlor Swift Dead

Originally posted by zopzop
I view CK as > Eternity but < LT.

Considering he was only stated to be Eternity level that's fantastic.

At least we know your CK love likes to twist the facts.

Cogito Senior Member

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Considering he was only stated to be Eternity level that's fantastic.
At least we know your CK love likes to twist the facts.

Considering he was an aspect of a being stated to be Eternity level that's fantastic.

Branlor Swift Dead

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't think he had the Spear of Destiny in this scene. Was it ever further explained why Libra made Spectre his b*tch aside from being Eternal? I'm not even sure if he was Herald level in power but Final Crisis was sometime ago. Either way, hilarious stuff.

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Originally posted by Cogito
Considering he was an aspect of a being stated to be Eternity level that's fantastic.

👆

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by Cogito
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When was this?
Doesn't even make sense, because Nabu was the more powerful than Shazam and the Spectre killed him too.

Yup. Shazam put a great deal of his power into blasting Mordru apparently:

The best part? Shazam attack didn't even do shit to Mordru:

Instead of Shazam looking good against Spectre, we have Spectre looking bad against Shazam who himself was an incompetent old dodger. That my friends, is true determination. Bravo Johns.

Branlor Swift Dead

Didn't Johns have the Guardians of the Universe above Spectre?

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Considering he was only stated to be Eternity level that's fantastic.
At least we know your CK love likes to twist the facts.

Considering the fact that he and SuperGod Hercules feats in that arc put Eternity to shame power wise, I'll stick with CK being > Eternity.

Branlor Swift Dead

Originally posted by zopzop
Considering the fact that he and SuperGod Hercules feats in that arc put Eternity to shame power wise, I'll stick with CK being > Eternity.

Beat up Skyfathers and absorb their power, and then get rocked by Thor?

Don't think that's on the same level as Eternity/Infinity beating the shit out of IG Magus

LordofBrooklyn Senior Member

Amazo W Worlogog
Mordru
Krona
Superman Prime

The rest don't really matter.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Didn't Johns have the Guardians of the Universe above Spectre?

I remember the Guardians looking good in comparison to the Spectre. IIRC, it was during Rebirth. And wasn't the Parallax part of Hal Jordan beating the crap out of the Spectre half?

Speaking of emotional entities. Wasn't the Butcher (Rage Entity) beating the f*ck out of Spectre inside a host until Atrocitus ripped it out?

Cogito Senior Member

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Didn't Johns have the Guardians of the Universe above Spectre?

Hope not, because he jobbed them out too.

Pre-Johns Ganthet was said to be omniscient (some hyperbole, to be sure) and displayed power way above a GL. John's Guardians were no more powerful than top-tier Lanterns.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't think he had the Spear of Destiny in this scene. Was it ever further explained why Libra made Spectre his b*tch aside from being Eternal? I'm not even sure if he was Herald level in power but Final Crisis was sometime ago. Either way, hilarious stuff.

Ok, here's what happened. The Spear of Destiny was not involved. My mistake, it was found and recovered a couple pages after that scene. Here's the whole thing:

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Spectre shows up, goes to punish Libra, and reverts to Crispus when he makes contact with him. After human Crispus gets tossed around, he reverts to his Spectre form and escapes. And then here's a later scene when the Radiant stops him from making another kill:

Spectre: "Does God forbid me my office once again? First I am denied Libra -- now this!?!"
http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb378/CogitoXP/Revelations02Page017_zpsa491b852.jpg

So God directly interfered with the Spectre and prevented him from affecting Libra. Furthermore, Libra didn't do shit to the Spectre. Later, Cain with the Spear wrecks the Spectre though.

Branlor Swift Dead

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I remember the Guardians looking good in comparison to the Spectre. IIRC, it was during Rebirth. And wasn't the Parallax part of Hal Jordan beating the crap out of the Spectre half?
Speaking of emotional entities. Wasn't the Butcher (Rage Entity) beating the f*ck out of Spectre inside a host until Atrocitus ripped it out?

The Parallax half overpowered the Spectre part. And then Spectre ran away.

Yes, ish

He was also getting knocked around by Hal and Sinestro. He was losing against current weakass Parallax and even got his death half tore away from him. Hell, Atrocitus briefly infected him too.

His jaw getting knocked off by a hammer construct from Hal sums up Spectre pretty nicely.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Beat up Skyfathers and absorb their power, and then get rocked by Thor?
Don't think that's on the same level as Eternity/Infinity beating the shit out of IG Magus

Destroying every PANTHEON, DIMENSION, etc.. he came across and absorbing it into himself with no apparent upper limit. Beating the living sh|t out of a being capable of restoring 98.75% of the multiverse. Causing Eternity's peer : Death, to flee. He took out 98.75% of the multiverse before they tricked him into believing he got what he wanted.

Then SuperGod Herc restores all of it (Athena said he could have recreated it instead and ruled over it like God).

So yeah.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Speaking of emotional entities. Wasn't the Butcher (Rage Entity) beating the f*ck out of Spectre inside a host until Atrocitus ripped it out?

Branlor Swift Dead

Originally posted by zopzop
Destroying every PANTHEON, DIMENSION, etc.. he came across and absorbing it into himself with no apparent upper limit. Beating the living sh|t out of a being capable of restoring 98.75% of the multiverse. Causing Eternity's peer : Death, to flee. He took out 98.75% of the multiverse before they tricked him into believing he got what he wanted.
Then SuperGod Herc restores all of it (Athena said he could have recreated it instead and ruled over it like God).
So yeah.

And you think that's more impressive than beating an IG user... how?

But yeah, he did all that while being equal to Eternity.
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