Ok.. I been reading through this.. and I will say that Manga are books. but not the kind you should be able to do a report on. While longer, they basically boil down into a comic book.
A long comic book.
And just like everything pointed out about a manga, a comic can do the same things. But how many of you are Seriously going to do a book report on a comic book? and if you do how long will it be before you fail that class? and possibly have the teacher severely chide you.. 😛
They're ment to be read, and yes they may very well encourage reading, but they aren't a serious book to be read.
Originally posted by Scyphen
Ok.. I been reading through this.. and I will say that Manga are books. but not the kind you should be able to do a report on. While longer, they basically boil down into a comic book.A long comic book.
And just like everything pointed out about a manga, a comic can do the same things. But how many of you are Seriously going to do a book report on a comic book? and if you do how long will be before you fail that class? and possibly have the teacher severely chide you.. 😛
They're ment to be read, and yes they may very well encourage reading, but they aren't a serious book to be read.
Actually, depending on the depth of the plot in the Manga, you could probably get a VERY good book report out of just ONE Manga. An even better one from a small series. Some of them contain many references to Mythologies, which can create many different depths of plot and symbolism within the story. This could create a very excellent book report if enough research was put into it. You could point out what different mythologies were referenced within the Manga, and point out what kind of messages this put in the story, how it was symbolic, or how it could change the meanings of different things in the Manga.
If you look at it like this, then you can definitely get a VERY good book report. 😉
Originally posted by sai12
.hack//SIGN is an anime.......😐
It's actually both Manga and Anime...
And as for your comment about getting failed. I could probably argue the point with most any teacher... Most of my teachers seem to like me and enjoy the fact that I debate about everything... Well, English teachers anyways... They tend to head Debate teams, and the like where I come from. So I have fun with it ^^
Edit: Replaced "kicked out" with "failed". Misread your post sai12, sorry.
Originally posted by Sarlock
Actually, depending on the depth of the plot in the Manga, you could probably get a VERY good book report out of just ONE Manga. An even better one from a small series. Some of them contain many references to Mythologies, which can create many different depths of plot and symbolism within the story. This could create a very excellent book report if enough research was put into it. You could point out what different mythologies were referenced within the Manga, and point out what kind of messages this put in the story, how it was symbolic, or how it could change the meanings of different things in the Manga.If you look at it like this, then you can definitely get a VERY good book report. 😉
Erm... you could still do that with a comic book too...
Originally posted by Scyphen
Erm... you could still do that with a comic book too...
I never said Comics were any different from Manga. A Manga/Dojounshi(spelt that wrong I'm pretty sure), is just a Japanese comic book. Just the different styles and the fact that Manga tends to come in a larger book makes people say they're different. Which really isn't true, they do come in smaller volumes too (approximately the size of a normal comic), but multiple of those smaller volumes are placed into the larger manga books that we import, translate, and republish.
Edit: Yea, there's a manga of SIGN, it's harder to find, but I saw it a couple times at my local Comic/Manga shop.
Originally posted by Sarlock
I never said Comics were any different from Manga. A Manga/Dojounshi(spelt that wrong I'm pretty sure), is just a Japanese comic book. Just the different styles and the fact that Manga tends to come in a larger book makes people say they're different. Which really isn't true, they do come in smaller volumes too (approximately the size of a normal comic), but multiple of those smaller volumes are placed into the larger manga books that we import, translate, and republish.
Ok, then. You see my point, and I'll give you your own about being able to make a valid report on them.
However, despite it all (and assume the teacher doesn't know you that well, or something to the point where you could argue your way into it being acceptable, as you can't always get your way) How many people are honestly going to accept any form of report/journal on a comic book, regardless of how ever deep it may be?
Sai12: "Yes, but have you EVER heard anyone call a comic a book?"
Response: Nope, and I don't expect to, my views are my own, and will not be taken lightly by the general public, no matter how well I can argue it. I just like debates, they're fun. 🙂
Scyphen: "Ok, then. You see my point, and I'll give you your own about being able to make a valid report on them.
However, despite it all (and assume the teacher doesn't know you that well, or something to the point where you could argue your way into it being acceptable, as you can't always get your way) How many people are honestly going to accept any form of report/journal on a comic book, reguardless of how ever deep it may be?"
Response:
Who knows, depends on the teacher, how well written the report/journal is, and whether or not it meets the criteria set by the teacher, and whether or not they were flexible. It would also depend on whether or not they enjoyed debating with students, and their willingness to open up to new styles of literature. I've also heard that they're changing the name "Comic Books" to "Graphic Novels", and giving them more credit in the literary world. So within a few years, maybe it will become the norm? Who's to say?
Originally posted by sai12
You also like arguing don't you? Just you have better way about it than Tranceduo.You have valid points. I guess in your world...a manga/comic is a book. *shrug*
Each will always have his or her points of view. Debating is fun, and I'll state that my points are what I believe in, and my reasons for it. I don't expect to convert anyone, but I do like to see other people's points of view, and argue with them. It's fun to see how other people think, and it gives you a better understanding of who you're talking to at the same time. 🙂
Well.. I think they've been throwing "graphic novel" around for a while..
but who knows.. years from now you may be correct about the concept of them.
I suppose some teachers would be flexible about it, possibly especially so if it was well done. Although the older ones, set in thier ways wouldn't be as much but sooner or later they'll retire and maybe the person who replaces them will be.
I got nothing.. so I concede to your points. Although, at this moment and the very near forseeable future, they wouldn't be very widely accepted. At least not without hefty debate.. heh..