Originally posted by Scyphen
Well.. I think they've been throwing "graphic novel" around for a while..
but who knows.. years from now you may be correct about the concept of them.I suppose some teachers would be flexible about it, possibly especially so if it was well done. Although the older ones, set in thier ways wouldn't be as much but sooner or later they'll retire and maybe the person who replaces them will be.
I got nothing.. so I concede to your points. Although, at this moment and the very near forseeable future, they wouldn't be very widely accepted. At least not without hefty debate.. heh..
I thank you. This was a very fun debate. ^^ It's hard to find a place where debates don't turn into flame wars. I think I'll stick around and get a feel for this place. You guys held your ends very well. And I thank you for the fun debate. ^^
And as for without hefty debate. Most people won't concede even with it. But it's fun to do the debate anyways. 🙂
I'm still not giving up on the fact that it isn't a true book. I don't care what you guys think. I've been an avid reader for years. I believe a book should have a plot structure, which manga do have, but they also have to express their thoughts through words. Using pictures is a cheap way of getting by. Its pretty yes, but it still doesn't make the reader think as much as they would while reading a novel.
In manga they paint the pictures for you, you don't have to imagine what is happening...its all right before you on the page.
So its still not a book....not in my books anyway 😉
Originally posted by Sarlock
I thank you. This was a very fun debate. ^^ It's hard to find a place where debates don't turn into flame wars. I think I'll stick around and get a feel for this place. You guys held your ends very well. And I thank you for the fun debate. ^^And as for without hefty debate. Most people won't concede even with it. But it's fun to do the debate anyways. 🙂
Your welcome, I actually rather enjoyed it too. Too often debates just degenerate into flames..
And you do seem to like to debate, as well as have a knack for it. heh.
Despite it all I still have to agree with Sai.. in my head they have similariites but are different. (shrug)
Each has their own views, I concede to the fact that in how you view things, a Manga/Comic/Graphic Novel is not a book. I can't change that, and I've known it since we started discussing ^^ But I'm glad I got to understand your views, as I hope you understand mine. 🙂
Edit: For clarification purposes, this is posted to Sai12. 🙂
i heard this mean old lady in the store say....
'this is our graphic novel secton. it's where teens who can read get books, cause they havve pretty pic tures.'
she looked at me the entire time as i sat on the floor reading with a giant AP biology textbook next to me.
how rude is that???????
GNs are too books. books with visual guides!
i wanted to hit the lady.