I don't think Hulk can win either.
Strength wise, Orion is leagues above Hulk's calm strength....and i got proof that it takes him a while to boost up.
Skill wise, Orion has all the skill.
Speed, Orion.
Intelligence, Orion
Experience, Orion
Versitality, Orion
Hulk would be K.O'd before he gets that 30 minutes to become as strong as Orion.
Originally posted by long pig
I don't think Hulk can win either.Strength wise, Orion is leagues above Hulk's calm strength....and i got proof that it takes him a while to boost up.
Skill wise, Orion has all the skill.
Speed, Orion.
Intelligence, Orion
Experience, Orion
Versitality, OrionHulk would be K.O'd before he gets that 30 minutes to become as strong as Orion.
Leagues above Hulk in strength? ❌ Orion's about as strong as Thor is.
Orion's speed in an atmosphere is Mach 6. Hulk is easily faster than that, since he can jump into outer space in a matter of seconds.
Savage Hulk doesn't really have a 'calm strength' like the others do. When he's calm, he has enough strength to move a tectonic plate that easily weighing over 10 trillion tons. He isn't ever at 100 tons, and it takes nothing for him to increase his strength. He could become leagues stronger than Orion, simply to prove that he was the strongest. Judging my scans, do you really think Orion would be able to knock Hulk out easily? Do I really need to bring up Savage Hulk's feats of strength? Orion would be nothing in comparison.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Good match-up.Orion's main weapon is The Astroharness. I don't think it will pose too much of a problem for Hulk, considering that he has pretty much ignored Nebulon's blasts in the past.
Orion can definitely be beaten by brawlers. The General proved this.
Orion's strength is great, but strength is no object for the Hulk.
Hulk can jump way faster than Mach 6, and he doesn't have a big problem catching flying opponents, or speedsters either.
I think that Hulk takes it.
Originally posted by K3VIL
1st.
The General was above Supes, so he was probably even above Orion, who didn't fight like an idiot in slugfest but tried to restrain him with Astro Force, the problem is that the General's body is hella durable.
Orion wasn't defeated anyway, defeat means you're on the ground K.O. or you escape.Orion unleashed his dog against the General cause it would take time to beat him in a brawl and Mageddon's offensive was coming soon, so he was needed elsewhere.
Hulk has displayed strength greater than Superman, or Orion. The General had nothing more than great strength, durability, and intelligence. Savage Hulk has the first two, except for strength at a greater degree than the General.
My point was, Savage Hulk's body is just as 'hella durable' as The General's is.
He resorted to unleashing his dog. I think that's a win for The General.
Superman handled Mageddon himself.
The Astroharness wouldn't work. I addressed this on the first page. Orion isn't stronger than Savage Hulk, and if he was, it wouldn't last two seconds. Orion definitely isn't more durable than Savage Hulk. He can fly faster than Hulk can run, but Hulk fights opponents with speed greater than his all the time. His accuracy and reflexes are uncanny. Hulk can clear the Earth's atmosphere in seconds. He'd have no problem catching Orion in mid flight, and pounding the crap out of him. Hulk is going to win this one.
Gotta go with Hulk...Orion is a top notch warrior..but fighting a person of Hulk's calibur, he'll probably go into some type of warrior frenzy and end up trading blows with the Hulk. This will inevitably be a mistake, and before Orion has figured this out..he will end up like so many others have before him(Thor, Thing, Hercules, Iron man, Wonder Man, etc..etc..etc..)
Orion is stronger than Thor, so is Kalibak and Darkseid.
In Defenders #10, Hulk wasn't strong enough to overpower Thor is a pure physical strength, they were locked for 30 minutes.
Orion would be stronger for a good while, and out-manuever Hulk and out fight him.
I think he could take Hulk...
"Hulk smash!" Vs "I am the DOG OF WAR!"
Orion has a much cooler tagline.
Originally posted by long pig
Orion is stronger than Thor, so is Kalibak and Darkseid.In Defenders #10, Hulk wasn't strong enough to overpower Thor is a pure physical strength, they were locked for 30 minutes.
Orion would be stronger for a good while, and out-manuever Hulk and out fight him.
I think he could take Hulk..."Hulk smash!" Vs "I am the DOG OF WAR!"
Orion has a much cooler tagline.
Any proof that Orion is stronger than Thor? Thor is regarded as one of the strongest beings in the Marvel Universe.
Defenders #10 is a minor inconsistency. Hulk has shown in his own comics that he can increase his strength to unimaginable levels in mere moments.
Originally posted by long pig
I'm not sure to whom.But, Orion is stated to be the most powerful humanoid on Earth, superior in strength to even Superman suposedly.
Plus he has a healing factor similar to Hulks, via the mother box.
I don't see Hulk having any advantages other than slightly superior strength.
Hulk is superior to Superman in strength.
You didn't say the he had the mother box in this fight. He doesn't always carry it with him.
Silghtly superior strength? Hulk can become vastly superior to Orion. After he finds out that the Astroharness doesn't work, Orion will try to slug it out with Hulk. Orion will go down, every time.
Orion always has the motherbox. I've never seen him without it.
Hulk is superior in strength than Superman, but so is Orion.
Orion is a lot smarter and has thousands of years of experience fighting, that evens out the strength deal.
I see this like the fights with Hulk and Thor, but unlike Thor, Orion doesn't hold back on anyone.
When Orion goes into a rage, his strength boosts like Thors does when Thor goes into warrior madness.
I honestly could see Orion win 7/10.
Too many advantages.
Originally posted by long pig
Orion always has the motherbox. I've never seen him without it.Hulk is superior in strength than Superman, but so is Orion.
Orion is a lot smarter and has thousands of years of experience fighting, that evens out the strength deal.
I see this like the fights with Hulk and Thor, but unlike Thor, Orion doesn't hold back on anyone.
When Orion goes into a rage, his strength boosts like Thors does when Thor goes into warrior madness.
I honestly could see Orion win 7/10.
Too many advantages.
Thing is, Hulk can increase his strength infinitely. He can become a million times stronger than Orion.
Orion can go at Mach 6 in an atmosphere. Hulk can run at almost 500 mph, and jump at speeds in excess of Mach 10. His fighting speed is blinding. He has uncanny aim, and reflexes.
Hulk is way more durable than Orion. Check out the scans on the first page.
Thor NEVER holds back when fighting Hulk. He has never used Mjolnir's full power on Hulk, but he strains himself immensely when fighting the Hulk. You cannot compare the Astroharness to Mjolnir.
Orion's rage is nothing compared to the Hulk's, and it is nothing like Warrior Madness. If Hulk gets mad, Orion's strength will count for nothing.
I don't see Savage Hulk losing to Orion. He's too strong, too durable, and too quick.