Superman vs Champion (no power gem)

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Champ almost killed Thing when they fought. Superman isn't faster than Champ, or stronger, and he's a far inferior fighter.

But is Thing stronger and faster than Superman?

Champ is:
As fast.
Stronger.
The best fighter to ever exist.
Immune to physical attacks.
A true immortal.
Immune to psi-attacks.
Best h2h weapon fighter to exist.

Champ has:
Beat Surfer
Beat Beta ray bill.
Beat Gladiator.
Beat Thor.
Beat Hulk.
Beat Thing.
Beat Drax w/out power gem.

But, let's get this straight, if well written, Champ can NOT lose in a physical battle, he out classes every one in skill.

Sadly, he's been written as a plot device. Remember though, Champ was smart enough to master every form of combat to ever exist, so him being shown sometimes as slobbering idiot is obviously bad writting.
Well written, Superman or anyone else with just strength and speed would lose a fight with him.

And the issue where Drax K.O's Champ, it wasn't too bad. The power Gem is a gem that makes your strength limitless, and can grant you any power you want.
A punch from anyone with the powergem would K.O anyone.

Originally posted by long pig

And the issue where Drax K.O's Champ, it wasn't too bad. The power Gem is a gem that makes your strength limitless, and can grant you any power you want.
A punch from anyone with the powergem would K.O anyone.

Isnt that kinda cheating? I mean thats like training for a boxing match but your opponent is allowed to not wear his goves and do steroids. Your chances of winning are gonna be slim.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
So if Aunt May had the power gem could she K.O. Champion or Drax?

Isnt that kinda cheating? I mean thats like training for a boxing match but your opponent is allowed to not wear his goves and do steroids. Your chances of winning are gonna be slim.

Infinitely powerful steroids.

Yeah, if she had the gem, she could.

Well, yes, yes it is.
And if Aunt may had the Gem, and used it correctly, she could basically out muscle anyone. She'd have limitless strength, and any other power she granted herself.

She-Hulk beat Champion recently if I remember right.

And you guys dont think that Superman could take Champion without the power gem.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
She-Hulk beat Champion recently if I remember right.

And you guys dont think that Superman could take Champion without the power gem.

Like I've said, Champ DIDN'T want to fight a woman, he refused at first, but was forced to. So he held back.

Alos, he had no gem and no Power Primordial. The PP makes him stronger, faster and more durable.

Plus, She-Hulk was amped up 3 times her normal strenght, Champ wasn't even haf his normal strenght....and they didn't street fight, they BOXED.

Champ would have beaten her easily if he was allowed to amp his strength and if he really wanted to hurt her.

Champion would beat Superman with his Pee pee.

Thanos can beat Champion.