Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
We're not discussing it though...I said I think celibacy is OK. You said it isn't.You then decided to tell me what I believe and why I believe it.
You even said I was gay...no where did you present an opportunity for reasoned discussion, you were just bashing me really.
If you want to have a reasoned discussion about celibacy in the priesthood then fine, lets have it. Just leave the patronizing "you believe because the Pope says" out of it- and also if I am gay that is something I would be able to deal with personally, I don't need you to tell me that I am gay or am not.
I didn't say it isn't okay. I said I think it's a bit contrary to the idea that god made man and that certain men are supposed to go without it as a means to bring them closer to god; to make them more pius.
You have many times said that the will of god is dispersed to humanity through the supreme and ultimate earthly authority of the Pope. So I don't think it's unreasonable to say you're getting your perspective on the situation from the church, who is embodied in the Pope.
As for the joke about being gay, that is just what it was: a joke. You laughed at the child molesting priest joke, I suppose I assumed you were capable of seeing the humor in that one as well. I'm not sure how you think a gay man would insult another human being by calling him gay.