Shin Akuma and Evil Ryu vs. Sephiroth and Cloud

Who wins characters at their best. Full fighting potential. 🤣

i know the great majority will say cloud and seph , but my votes goes for s akuma and ryu

it all depend on what cloud and seph can do really and which seph

lets say the one that is at clouds rival/enemy level.

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I might have to,man....................................I don't know,just depends on which forms where using.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
lets say the one that is at clouds rival/enemy level.

Cloud can't rival Sephiroth. Cloud killed him when Sephiroth had technically already died twice. Sephiroth is freaking godly, Not really knowledgable in SF lore, but I'm saying Sephiroth takes em both.

Ryu vs. Cloud- I think its a tie IMO

Akuma vs. Sephiroth- Akuma. And Cloud eventually surpassed Sephiroth at the end of the game.

Not even close. Sephiroth's on another level. When Cloud killed Seph, Seph had already been technically killed twice. He was able to hold off the entire AVALANCHE group while sustaining a barrier that held back Holy, the most powerful weapon in the world, until Aerith's prayer kicked in. He was trapped in a materia crystal for long periods of time. Sephiroth is the best of all the SOLDIERS, Cloud failed to get into the SOLDIER program.

Ryu vs. Cloud would be close. It's pretty hard to dodge Omnislash though... And Ryu would have no way to block the sword.

Thanks to LordRyugen for the Sephiroth fun facts though... The channeler of God's power is not to be messed with.

Good posts, I was just thinking, between ryu and cloud would be close, but sephiroth and akuma at his full potential I would choose akuma, but it is definitely a close match, as their projectiles would be stopped by the superior speed of sephiroth and cloud, but Shin akuma should be faster than them

cloud omnin slash is freaking fast , but in truth i believe akuma and ryu are even faster , akumas shun goku satsu is probaly faster than cloud omnin slash in fact

Originally posted by Hoshi
cloud omnin slash is freaking fast , but in truth i believe akuma and ryu are even faster , akumas shun goku satsu is probaly faster than cloud omnin slash in fact

dude it's spelled omnislash

Ryu:

Even though Ryu is balanced from a distance and in close combat I think Ryu is stronger physically, I think cloud is better off fighting him at long range then up close, because of Ryus' Shoryuken and Tasumaki- Senpukyaku being devastating attacks. If Ryu catches Cloud with a Shin-Shoryuken (Metsu Shoryuken when it wasn't perfected) or if Cloud gets caught in a Shinku Tasumaki Senpuu Kayaku hes pretty much out of the fight.

Ryu is good at a Distance too with his Hadoken, Shakunetsu Hadoken (the fireball one that stuns and take out little more damage then the Hadoken), Shinku-Hadoken (thats over kill if it connects), and the Denjin Hadoken that stuns you instantly if it hits its target.

Cloud:

Cloud with his big sword is going to be helpful at keeping Ryu out of his range, while he uses Blade Beam, Climhazzard, and Meteorain as distance attacks. Braver, Cross-slash, Finishing touch, and Omni-Slash he can use in close range if he finds an opening.

Thats why I think it would be a tie IMO.

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Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
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Thanks! I just wanted to give a better reason why I think it would be a draw. 😎

And you did well beyond that.

Originally posted by dvampire
Thanks! I just wanted to give a better reason why I think it would be a draw. 😎

I agree with Cloud and Ryu cutting it close, with the exception that Cloud's reach and the fact that Ryu wouldn't be able to block would give him a close range advantage. Distance, I agree on the tie.

Now I still go for Sephiroth over Akuma, for his insane strength, speed, and durability, as well as his immense skill. The magic doesn't hurt either. I don't see Akuma gettin through a force field, unless someone can prove that he is significantly stronger than Holy.

Misogi - the single hit deathstrike

Kongou Kokoretsu Zan - A move that can shatter an island with a single strike.

I think Shin Akuma would win, but it would be closer than most of Akuma's possible fights.

Sephiroth still has a big freaking sword though. It's the same thing with Cloud and Ryu, Akuma wouldn't be able to block. He wouldn't get close. (Don't say he's faster. Seph is at least as fast as Akuma.) I just doubt Akuma would be able to stand against Seph's magic and superior weaponry/reach. Misogi won't do anything if it hits a forcefield.

Actually, since it's Shin Akuma, id say he's much faster, And as for penetrating a forcefield, there are many options.

Gou Hadouken
Shankunetsu Hadouken
Zanku Hadouken
Messatsu Gou Hadou
Tenma Gou Zanku
Misogi
Kongou Kokoretsu Zan

All of the bolded moves bring out enourmous quantities of energy

And as for blocking Swords, If Heihachi Mishima could do it in SC2, I firmly beleive that the Supreme Master of the Fist could do it easily