Phoenix Vs Marvel Universe

The Marvel Hierarchy

In the Marvel Multiverse

1. TOAA
😮bviously:

2. HOTU
:Absorbed LT: nuff said...

3. Living Tribunal
:Because he's above the IG(like I proved in this thread)

4. IG
:Because it controlled the energies of the Ultimate Nullifier:

5. Ultimate Nullifier
😮bliterated and Remade the Multiverse in the blink of an eye.

6. Abraxas(he can only manifest...if one of the Galactus's in Multi-verse die).
:Because only the UN can kill him:

7. Multi-Eternity/Multi-Infinity(embodiments of the Multiverse/Time&Space)
:Because it's their Multiverse, Because they are the Multiverse, because they make up an infinite number of Universes(as you saw in the Cosmic Vortex)without them there's nothing, Because a Single Big Bang takes place in their immensity all the time. An entire Universe is infinitesimal in comparison to them.

8. Phoenix Force/Eternity/Infinity/Entropy/Death

9. Rest of the abstracts and so on.

Phoenix Force Greatest Feats:

1.:REPAIRING the M'Kraan Crystal:

When she did this(ON PANEL)the Crystal was a UNIVERSAL THREAT!...and it hadn't even been released when Phoenix REPAIRED IT......NOT contained it.

This Scan actually puts to rest the whole Mkraan Crystal event issue,
once thought to be the greatest feat for ol' GS in Marvel, LOL...but in fact...it was just a Universe that Phoenix saved. Here's the close up:

The MKraan Crystal As the Nexus of all Realities, the Crystal can allow travel between universes, but opening the Crystal could cause the mass of the neutron galaxy inside to suck in the entire universe and cause a chain-reaction across the multiverse, destroying all universes in existence.

Sounds like Wanda's Chaos Wave.....How anyone came to the conclusion that the Crystal is a Multiversal reset switch or whatever is beyond me.

2.:REPAIRING the Damage to an Orphan Universe:

She did NOT RESTRUCTURE or WARP or REMADE this "Orphan Universe"...she REPAIRED it....yes....the DAMAGE atom by atom.

Contrary to the ridiculous exaggeration that has been pumped about this feat by you know who....challenge the scan all you want.

3.😛rojecting the Excalibur Tower across the multiverse VIA the Interfaces across the Multiverse that were Aligned momentarily.

This is before the Phoenix even came into the picture:
It clearly says 'when a series of interfaces across the Multiverse were aligned, the localized energy fields merged..to Create an Energy Matrix.'

The Energy fields merge ON THEIR OWN...and the Interfaces across the Mulitverse align BY THEMSELVES...

AT the MOMENT of ALIGNMENT, THEN Feron called Phoenix to project the Tower", a less than monumental feat...considering it was the Energy Matrix(ON IT"S OWN)that allowes simultaneous existence in the Multiverse when the Interfaces Across are Aligned, Which Also happens ON it's OWN.....

While Necrom and Feron had fought, MERLYN had JUMPED INTO the Energy Matrix...

He was swept across the Multiverse and was finally able to control the Energy Matrix and created Otherworld.
At Otherworld Merlyn, along with his daughter Roma, over-looked the Multiverse.

MERLYN repaired the Energy Matrix which now has a permanent flow.....NOT Phoenix.

that should end this tread

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Apparently, the "Phoenix", or the force of creation, created the multiverse, leon.

hysterical

Dude where did you get that from?

You've been sold too havent you?

Ok wake up time....

This is the actual MULTI-VERSE being created.

Please point out for me...where do you see that Phoenix did this?....

Well then show me if Phoenix is EVEN mentioned at all.confused1

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
If Thanos destroyed the entire marvel multiverse then surely he would have destroyed Adam Warlock along with it?

Atleza's domain is outside the Multiverse...

Gamora and Warlock were babysitting Atleza in her domain...which is untouched by Space or Time or the Multiverse.

From this domain she anchors our Universe(which is one of many)in place...so that it will not be sucked in by the VOID.

See those little purple balls, thats where atleza is..and every little purple ball is the domain of the anchor...Yes...very much outside the Multiverse...the Multiverse are the Bigger balls obviously...untouched by space or time


First Warlock is allowed to enter this place...the Cosmic Vortex.

Now observe Warlock navigating this realm in--between Universes.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
These are quotes from phoenix supporting the fact that she is the primal force of creation (as also stated by the watcher) whose essence runs through everything and who created the multiverse.

This is BULLshit

The Multi-verse was NOT created by Phoenix in any way shape or form.
She can't even create a Universe and now you have her creating Multiverses. 😆

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Phoenix of the White CROWN and the fact that Jean calls herself TIPHERETH in the comics provide more evidence supporting my argument about TOAA connection. With both terms being the names of sephiroth (vessels for Gods essence, made to carry out his work in our plane of existence),

"GOD"?.....hysterical

What "GOD".....here are several "GODS"...choose one.

Thanos was "GOD" with a Cosmic Cube

Thanos with IG is "GOD"

Warlock with IG is "GOD"

Magus with an Incomplete IG is "God"

Could it be this "GOD"?....Yea that's right....the Multi-verse itself and once again Phoenix had nothing to do with this beast.

Realize how they say that ONE UNIVERSE of THEIRS is basically insignificant to them.

Perhaps it's this "GOD"...the one that can make you a Universe in an instant.





Unlike your stupid Mastermind scan...I can actually SEE Silver Surfer physically EXPANDING into a UNIVERSE...

Actually let me just throw in the MOST powerful character ever created by Marvel....Classic Beyonder...is this the "GOD" your referring to?

He's Beyond Space and Time


Heroes...Villians and everyone else on earth bowing to the Beyonder, is he "GOD"?

Even Bacteria & Viruses...Inanimate objects...Atoms and any substance in existence bows to the Beyonder...is he "GOD"?

Just by Beyonder thinking to much....Suns Implode..Worlds Collide...Parallel Dimensions Collapse

The ENTIRE Watcher race agrees to Interfere with the Beyonder...this is UNHEARD OF.

Beyonder has the Living Universe begging him to not kill Multi-Death

He does anyway.

Death is ERASED across The Entire Multiverse


Beyonder recreates Death

Just like Phoenix and Death talked so Beyonder talks to Death

Death is too AFRAID to even respond to her X-Muderer

Beyonder is Reality

Beyonder can do anything

Beyonder is the Living Embodiment of Supreme Power


Beyonder is Millions of Times More Powerful than ALL the Rest of the Multiverse Combined.

Now was Beyonder alone in this?...no....many thought Beyonder was the Ultimate Being.
Sunspot on the Beyonder

Darkchild on the Beyonder

Hercules on the Beyonder

Magneto on the Beyonder

Dr Doom on the Beyonder

Xavier on the Beyonder

Dr Strange on the Beyonder

Finally...

The whole thing about being the "END ALL...BE ALL"...

Seems like it's commom when you have the Infinity Gauntlet

and once again he's called "GOD"!

The Infinity Well speaks about Warlock.

Warlock was the "END ALL and BE ALL of the Universe with the IG....so what role does Phoenix play here?......

Even the Infinity Well calls Warlock "GOD"...with the IG.

[QUOTE=6922142]Originally posted by Mr Master
[B]

Scuse the error on this post yall....The Warlock scan was missing.

"GOD"?....

What "GOD".....here are several "GODS"...choose one.

Thanos was "GOD" with a Cosmic Cube

Thanos with IG is "GOD"

Warlock with IG is "GOD"

Mr master as i have said time and time again you do an amazing job when posting and i love your scans, dam i have forgoten how cool the beyonder was.Is there a beyonder respect thread if not there needs to be one made right now.

Originally posted by sexyking
Mr master as i have said time and time again you do an amazing job when posting and i love your scans, dam i have forgoten how cool the beyonder was.Is there a beyonder respect thread if not there needs to be one made right now.

thanx...

I'm going to make a Beyonder respect thread...I have the ample issues to display madness.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The fact remains that he saw becoming Eternity as his ultimate goal despite having the IG. Dont dismiss Eternity my friend please remember that it was only an MBody that Thanos defeated,

More Gibberish and lies

Thanos became Eternity to lose his Power to the Infinity Gauntlet....he knew he was a JOKE as Eternity against the IG.........your Words vs the On Panel Proof.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Dont dismiss Eternity my friend please remember that it was only an MBody that Thanos defeated

Dude I think...no ...I know I rather be this:

Realize how it's not Thanos boasting...it's the Writer that's saying this...or should we only except what Grant Morrison wrtieslaughing

On this scan it's the Infinity Well that's speaking...it supposedly knows ALL......once again, nobody's boasting on their OWN behalf...OTHERS are doing it for them, including WRITERS...CALLING them GOD...Not God-like or A God....but GOD as in GOD.

Even your boy Eternity said the THOU was the Supreme Power

Than this:
"Powerful Eternity Catatonic"
"Artificially Induced by an OUTSIDE FORCE"...these are direct quotes.

Magus's work with 5 Cosmic Containment Units from a separate Universe.
"He's Catatonic....It appears to be Induced by OUTSIDE FORCES"....

What did this to Mighty Eternity?...................................Magus.

And 30 Cosmic Containment Units are STILL Beneath the Infinity Gauntlet.
Here the Goddess merges 30 Cosmic Containment Units...which equal to even greater power as a sum than individually(as when Magus used his 5)

Here Silver Surfer and the Goddess acknowledge that the Infinity Gauntlet is a "Far More Potent Force" than even 30 Cosmic Containment Units(un-evolved Cosmic Cubes)and remember it only took 5 to create an exact duplicate of the 616 Universe...from scratch.

Finally:
This about sums it up....Infinity Gauntlet is ABOVE Eternity.

Originally posted by Mr Master
[B]The Marvel Hierarchy

In the Marvel Multiverse

1. TOAA
😮bviously:

2. HOTU
:Absorbed LT: nuff said...

3. Living Tribunal
:Because he's above the IG(like I proved in this thread)

4. IG
:Because it controlled the energies of the Ultimate Nullifier:

5. Ultimate Nullifier
😮bliterated and Remade the Multiverse in the blink of an eye.

6. Abraxas(he can only manifest...if one of the Galactus's in Multi-verse die).
:Because only the UN can kill him:

7. Multi-Eternity/Multi-Infinity(embodiments of the Multiverse/Time&Space)
:Because it's their Multiverse, Because they are the Multiverse, because they make up an infinite number of Universes(as you saw in the Cosmic Vortex)without them there's nothing, Because a Single Big Bang takes place in their immensity all the time. An entire Universe is infinitesimal in comparison to them.

8. Phoenix Force/Eternity/Infinity/Entropy/Death

9. Rest of the abstracts and so on.

Phoenix Force Greatest Feats:

From my perspective, it feels wierd that you would put the IG and UN above Multi Eternity. In my case I'd put them all on the same level. And then below then I'd put the Infinites, for the way they manhandled Eternity. And I'd put Abraxas on the Level of the Infinites, being that while only 1 abraxas exists in the multiverse, Abraxas is unwilling to kill the multiverse for what it would do to him. Therefore Abraxas is < Multieternity. He is their prisoner. 8 and 9 I generally agree with.

So my new perspective.
1. TOAA (Lord of the Omniverse)
2. MultiEternity/Multi-Infinity (Embodiments of the Multiverse)
2. HOTU/HOTI (Turned you into the equivalent of MultiEternity, even surpassing LT in power.
3. Living Tribunal (Judge of the Multiverse, only one exists ever, if you see him, you are dealing with the only one in the Multiverse)
3. The Infinites (Manhandled Eternity, but LT did not do anything to them, probably cause they were just doing their job to arrange the multiverses energies as they saw fit. Notice though that there were 3 beings. LT has always been shown to have 3 faces. I've always wondered if they could not in fact be the same person)
4. Abraxas (Only one exists within all of MultiEternity, but is still less than them, since their death means Abraxas cannot exist, however Abraxas killed virtually all reed richards in all multiverses, and killed several Galactuses.)
5. PF (For repairing the M Crystal, and an orphan Universe)
5. Single Eternity/Infinity
5. Death
5. Galactus for giving Moondragon the ability to heal Eternity

I am not saying your way may not be right, I'm just saying this is my point of view. Btw great arguments againts GS.

Btw. Phoenix healed an orphan universe.
Moondragon (with Galactus's help) healed 616 Eternity

Moondragon therefore must be equal therefore to Phoenix

If GS can use ABC logic, so can I.

😆 bwhahahhahahahah 😎

Originally posted by rotiart

So my new perspective.
1. TOAA (Lord of the Omniverse)
2. MultiEternity/Multi-Infinity (Embodiments of the Multiverse)
2. HOTU/HOTI (Turned you into the equivalent of MultiEternity, even surpassing LT in power.
3. Living Tribunal (Judge of the Multiverse, only one exists ever, if you see him, you are dealing with the only one in the Multiverse)
3. The Infinites (Manhandled Eternity, but LT did not do anything to them, probably cause they were just doing their job to arrange the multiverses energies as they saw fit. Notice though that there were 3 beings. LT has always been shown to have 3 faces. I've always wondered if they could not in fact be the same person)
4. Abraxas (Only one exists within all of MultiEternity, but is still less than them, since their death means Abraxas cannot exist, however Abraxas killed virtually all reed richards in all multiverses, and killed several Galactuses.)
5. PF (For repairing the M Crystal, and an orphan Universe)
5. Single Eternity/Infinity
5. Death
5. Galactus for giving Moondragon the ability to heal Eternity

But you didn't include the IG nor the UN...in this case the hierarchy would be(imho)

1.GOD(Jack Kirby)

1.TOAA(Stan Lee)

God/Jack calls him his "Collaborator".....

It makes sense....

TOAA/Stan lays down the Story/Laws of Marvel.

GOD/Jack turns those Stories/Laws into reality.

2. HOTU(power of the Supreme being(God&TOAA)

3. Living Tribunal

4. Abraxas was causing the destruction of the Multiverse just by existing.
He's not even trying...his presence equals the Collapse of the Multiverse.

5. Multi-Eternity

6. Infinites

7. Phoenix Force/Eternity/Infinity/Entropy/Death/Cosmic Containment Units(potentially)

8. rest of Abstracts

9. Cosmic Cubes

Originally posted by rotiart
Btw. Phoenix healed an orphan universe.
Moondragon (with Galactus's help) healed 616 Eternity

Moondragon therefore must be equal therefore to Phoenix

😆

1 against thousands? hell u know d answer