storm runs the marvel universe gauntlet

Originally posted by stormfront13
no, but a thought is all she needs to activate her powers, and it will take a second to move. yeah if i were far enough away, saw the person pick the ball up and their body language told me they were going to throw something then yeah i could dodge it. the thing you are missing is that storm and namor will be separated, storm will see him go after the object and will see him pick it up, and his body language will give it away that he is throwing something at her because his body will make that motion

Well, next time state the place and distance where they start. Sure, if Storms starts 100 feet away from him, I quess that she will win.

even if they are only a few feet away your body needs to move to throw an object, unless you have telekinesis. but if they were a few feet away he wouldn't need to throw anything. idk i think other people should decide because everytime i set distances i get called unfair

Well, I think it is a bit of unfair to set up an battle with Electro and Storm in the desert where Electro doesn't have no way of harming Storm...

that was the only thread that was kinda unfair, because i made it w/ out thinking. but i changed it to a city enviroment and people were still saying it was unfair. then in the spiderman thread they were in a city, and 100 feet apart and were aware of eachother and people said it was unfair. i don't see how that is unfair because it gives the character time to think of what they will do and try to find cover and get the opponent off guard.

that battle isn't really distance wise though

Originally posted by stormfront13
ha ha ha, speedblitz with a speed of 60 mph. well storm killed the hulk, is also a very good tactician, and has taken down wolverine and sabertooth hand-to-hand. she ain't that bad herself, as any x-men readerr would know.

Please who hasnt taken down wolverine and sabertooth in hand to hand? Black cat, Daredevil, Storm

Stormfront you keep saying that hurricanes are 350 mph but arent your average hurricanes around 200? Im not doubting you that storm can fly faster im just asking.

In the official handbook it says Namor possesses a high level of superhuman strength enabling him to lift press up to 100 tons while in contact with water. Im assuming Namor is fresh out of water in this fight so that they both fight at the top of their game.

Back to warbird: Regardless of wether she is class 50 or not (i think she is around 30) she is strong enough to knock out storm. She is class 5 speed (supersonic mach2 through orbital velocity). The handbook isnt very clear it only says she can fly at sublight speeds but we know for sure she is at least 1200 mph. Before storm has the chance to start pinning her with winds warbird can speed blitz and knock her out. This is one option for carol, she could start off by blinding her with a flash of light like i suggested earlier. Also thinning the atmosphere to make it hard for warbird to breathe, im not sure how much affect that will have on her because she can exist in space without protection. Carol is taking storm down.

Originally posted by stormfront13
omg lol. it's a brick, it is very small and with one movement she could dodge it lol. that brick aint moving near speed of thought. and to get the brick he leaves himself open to attack by storm

Are you retarded? 9000 mph? In real life, you couldn't dodge anything moving over 500 mph, and Storm has, at best, peak human reflexes. That brick will be moving faster than anything she's ever seen in her life. Actually, she won't even see it, because it will cover 9 miles in... oh, lets say....

22.5 SECONDS. That brick will cover A MILE in 2.5 seconds. A ****ING MILE IN 2.5 SECONDS!

Oh yeah, about storm crossing the pacific in minutes, bullshit.

Mass. to london is ~3300 miles. She'd have to be going over 3000 miles an hour to cover that distance, and she would die from the Gs, doubtless. No doubt at ALL in my mind. You know the amount of pressure on her body would kill her. It is unsafe for humans to exceed more than 10 Gs (10x the pull of gravity) on their body for more than a few seconds, and she is definitly exceeding that.

If you want to use Storm travelling at that rate (which is a plot device to the max) as norm, then let's use Namor's feats of power as his norm.

Storm will get hit with the brick and die in under a second. Game over.

"Also thinning the atmosphere to make it hard for warbird to breathe, im not sure how much affect that will have on her because she can exist in space without protection."

Carol cant exist in the vacuum ofd space anymore im afraid. Her binary days are long behind her. She tried once in Avengers and not only could she not get anywhere near escape velocity but also as she reached the upper limits of the atmosphere she was sweating and she had difficulty breathing. Any Avengers fans out there who can tell me the issue number?

Nataku before i get started let me set this straight. Theres no need for the abuse you havent been insulted by anyone, if storm front says something you dont agree with then convey it in an adult manner. Just how old are you? Sort it out.

"Are you retarded? 9000 mph? In real life, you couldn't dodge anything moving over 500 mph, and Storm has, at best, peak human reflexes. That brick will be moving faster than anything she's ever seen in her life. Actually, she won't even see it, because it will cover 9 miles in... oh, lets say....

22.5 SECONDS. That brick will cover A MILE in 2.5 seconds. A ****ING MILE IN 2.5 SECONDS!"

That calculation was incorrect for a start and wasnt figured out with a brick in mind so applying it to a brick without taking in all the other various factors such as its differing aerodynamics and storms hurricane winds is just amateur to say the least.

Ok i was going by what the official guide said in the last sentence of her powers. If thats already out dated in one year than im wrong. Besides that sentence what is storm going to do to counter the rest of my post? How is she going to prevent being blinded or from a speedblitz attack by carol?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
That calculation was incorrect for a start and wasnt figured out with a brick in mind so applying it to a brick without taking in all the other various factors such as its differing aerodynamics and storms hurricane winds is just amateur to say the least.

The calculation was a generalized number, as is everything else in comics. Namor can't life ONLY 85 tons, Storm can't go ONLY 300 M.P.H. , as for aerodynamics, when thrown at that speed the brick will be barely affected by anything. You been to physics class? The faster something is moving, the less it is affected by outside forces. Hence why an arrow is more affected by windspeed by a bullet. Something travling at 9000 mph is moving quickly enough so that no force will apply enough pressure for long enough to make much of any impact, except the forward air resistance. So, if you know aerodynamics, tell me, how is the forward air resistance going to affect a 9000 mph fastball special brick?

Nataku before i get started let me set this straight. Theres no need for the abuse you havent been insulted by anyone, if storm front says something you dont agree with then convey it in an adult manner. Just how old are you? Sort it out.

Now that I'm done, let me set this straight, mind your own business. You want to know why I'm abusing SF? Because he never comes up with his own facts, and is just a drain on this community as a whole. How often do I attack members like yourself, who provide good information, and a ready debate? People like SF do nothing but waste the time and space of KMC boards and it's members. Why do I have to act like an adult? Like I give a shit, it's funny, you tell me to not insult others, then go on to insult me. "Just how old are you? Sort it out." Don't even try to say that wasn't an insult, it clearly was an attempt to demean or demoralize me. To refresh - I don't give a shit what you think about me, if you don't want to see what I have to say, ignore me or don't read it. That's pretty simple, eh?

nope, galactic and myself have had bery differnet points that work, yeah if he says something that is right then i'll agree. i do provide info that explains on how a character is able to beat another, but can't say it well, and i suck at debating because i avoid conflict. now back to the other issue. to get a brick, namor will have to go to the ground which sets them apart by a lot. storm likes to fight at a distance so she won't excatley be following him. by the time he picks the brick up, loks at storm, and makes his body throw the brick making his body language show he is throwing something storm will already be out of the way or prepared. a brick aint goin through the distance in less than a second

"The calculation was a generalized number, as is everything else in comics. Namor can't life ONLY 85 tons, Storm can't go ONLY 300 M.P.H. , as for aerodynamics, when thrown at that speed the brick will be barely affected by anything. You been to physics class? The faster something is moving, the less it is affected by outside forces. Hence why an arrow is more affected by windspeed by a bullet. Something travling at 9000 mph is moving quickly enough so that no force will apply enough pressure for long enough to make much of any impact, except the forward air resistance. So, if you know aerodynamics, tell me, how is the forward air resistance going to affect a 9000 mph fastball special brick?"

That 900 mph figure came out of thin air and is completely unfounded. It was based on how fast a baseball player can throw a baseball and then you multiplied by namors relative strength. LAME.

If a baseball player threw a brick and the speed was measured i bet it wouldnt be half as fast. Dont question my physics knowledge boy especially with your lame attempts out on public display. 🙄

"Now that I'm done, let me set this straight, mind your own business. You want to know why I'm abusing SF? Because he never comes up with his own facts, and is just a drain on this community as a whole."

70% of each of your posts is abuse, 15% speculation, the remainder spurts out your backhole so your usefulness to the KMC community is questionable to say the least. 😱

" Don't even try to say that wasn't an insult, it clearly was an attempt to demean or demoralize me. To refresh - I don't give a shit what you think about me, if you don't want to see what I have to say, ignore me or don't read it. That's pretty simple, eh?"

Useless waffle like this makes me wish there was an entrance exam for the internet.

whoa....

anyway, the brick is not going to go at 9,000 miles per hour, for one, it will have problems overcoming the sound barrier (it is not a very aerodynamic shape) and two a brick is much harder to throw accurately.

But I still think that it would go fast enough for Storm not to dodge it.

i highly doubt it would. storm always prefers to fight at a distance, and with his speed, it won't be that much of a problem keeping him at bay. to even get a brick he will have to fly down to pick it up. then his body language will show that he will be throwing something. then it will have to take time to even get to her. then she could send a gust of wind the bricks way which will slow the path, then deactivate her powers, she will drop out of the bricks oath, and activate them and just levitate or something. there are many options for storm, but by the time he throws the brick storm will already be ready and out of the way planning an attack

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
That 900 mph figure came out of thin air and is completely unfounded. It was based on how fast a baseball player can throw a baseball and then you multiplied by namors relative strength. LAME.

If a baseball player threw a brick and the speed was measured i bet it wouldnt be half as fast. Dont question my physics knowledge boy especially with your lame attempts out on public display. 🙄

No it didn't. Baseball players throw ~100 mph. Spidey is ~20x as strong as a peak human being. Throwing isn't exactly related to lifting, so you could say he can throw ~10x as fast as a baseball player. All of his ligaments and muscles are much more flexible than any human being as well, when pitching, he can pull his arm back farther to give more pull on his throw.

I bet if a baseball player threw a brick I bet it would break 60 mph, easily. Spidey is more than twenty times as strong as any baseball player. Now you want to call my 'attempts' lame? All you've got as a counter is "A brick isn't a baseball, your numbers are unfounded!" when we use the same general mathematics that most comic book writers do.

70% of each of your posts is abuse, 15% speculation, the remainder spurts out your backhole so your usefulness to the KMC community is questionable to say the least. 😱

70% eh? It's more like 10%, unless I'm aiming to abuse. In any comic related argument, everything is almost 100% speculation, because we don't write the characters, we don't know for a fact what their limits are, hell, for starters, characters never have the same limits when compared between writers. So If I'm only speculating in 15% of my posts, sounds like I'm doing pretty good, huh?

The remainder spurts out of my backhole? How about, no? If it's not abuse or speculation, its a fact that I am more than willing to back up if you need me to. I'll post scans (done it), comic numbers (done it), pretty much whatever it takes to back up something I know to be true.

Useless waffle like this makes me wish there was an entrance exam for the Internet.

Going from telling me to grow up to insulting me, wow, congratulations, you sure do know how to make yourself look 'grown up'. It's an Internet forum, who the hell cares how we act? I just wish the entrance exam kept people from typing illegibly or posting absolute lies. I like a good heated argument now and then.

it doesn't matter how fast he can throw it. his body language will give off he is throwing something, letting storm know

Stormfront or galacticstorm you got anyway for storm to counter warbird blinding her form the start or speedblitzing? Her speed isnt clear but its over mach 2 and one god punch form her should knock out storm.

Originally posted by life is cruell
Stormfront or galacticstorm you got anyway for storm to counter warbird blinding her form the start or speedblitzing? Her speed isnt clear but its over mach 2 and one god punch form her should knock out storm.

But storm could blind warbird from the start as well. However thats not usually how either of them fight. Storm can still sense shifts in air currents and would be able to sense that WB's approaching her fast and from what direction. Storm can not only see but also sense energy patterns. This ability would help her locate WB without her eyes functioning, especially with warbird being an energy manipulator. So the energies WB lets off and has coursing through her, plus the shift in air currents she would cause by flying towards storm would enable storm to locate her. She wouldnt have to be 100% accurate while fighting with wind because it is a wall of air currents.

Have you got any counter to storm resraining WB with her winds which she has proven she can easily do to a class 50. Have you got any counter for storm alternatively just battering her within hurricane force winds and her creating a vacuum so as to make it increadibly difficult for WB to breathe. Storm if deciding to be ruthless could shut down her heart by tapping into WB's natural electrical field as storm has proven she is capable of in the past.