storm runs the marvel universe gauntlet

"All those lifting feats were not added by buoyancy"

No but most of them were. Namor being officially stated to be class 85 yet suddenly being able to lift in excess of 100, 000 tons a feat the hulk or gladiator would struggle is just bad writing. She hulks officially stronger than the likes of thing and hercules and a host of other powerhouses yet you dont see her lifting up ridiculous things like that.

"He took a blow from THORS hammer and it didn't faze him'

Yet blows from thors hammer have had hulk on the ropes and so on. Yet namor is no comparison to hulk in terms of strength and durability. So whats your point? What that suggests to me is that thor wasnt going all out. So that says nothing about his durability really.

"Gee, I think that he is quite more durable then average fish or human..."

Huh?

"The site lists Storm’s and Namor’s speed as same."

Incorrect. Storm and Namor are both listed as Speed rating 3. That encompasses from normal human speed to supersonic. That is why they are in the same speed class. Just like Collossus and Hulk are in the same class 100 but he is nowhere near hulks strength. In Marvels old style of bios Namor is rated as 60 mph in the marvel directory heis 60 mph. If you pick up the Dorling Kindrley Essential Guide to Fantastic Four Namor is listed as being able to fly at 60mph. Lame.

"fighting skills are the same, which I doubt though"

You cant read Xmen comics if you doubt storms fightin skills. Storm is an experienced fighter. Namor is more of a brawler who relies on his strength. But theyre the samerating so thats cool.

" Energy projection of Storm is 5 which means an single energy type. Where is that star power now?"

Storm psionically manipulates ambient energy patterns. While on earth those powers dictate the weather, while in the trion dimension they manifested as a diffreent energy type, while in space she could manifest cosmic energy bolts, therefore her rating of 5, a single energy type at a long range is correct because obviously she needs to be in an appropriate atmosphere to generate and manipulat a particular energy type.

"And even if Namor could not get close to Storm, I doubt that Storm would be able to dodge or block an multiple barrage of buses and trucks thrown at her."

Storm knowing of his superstrength and agressive tendencies would be fighting from a distance. Storm can fly at 300 mph as standard but by pushing the limits of nature can reach mach speeds with effort. Storm could dodge an 8 ton bus thrown at her. Thats nearly 10% of namors overall lifting capacity. He would not be able to throw it at a speed that would threaten storm, or test her aerial manoeuvrability.

........she would kick him in the crouch( which is extremely painful) so that he can't focus enough to use his spider sense and then then she can summon the full force of heaven to kill him all at once( sleet, snow, arctic winds, monsoons, hail the size of soccer balls, emence bolts of lightning, extreme heat, extreme cold, tornados, and a hurricane to top it all off).

Originally posted by stormlover
........she would kick him in the crouch( which is extremely painful) so that he can't focus enough to use his spider sense and then then she can summon the full force of heaven to kill him all at once( sleet, snow, arctic winds, monsoons, hail the size of soccer balls, emence bolts of lightning, extreme heat, extreme cold, tornados, and a hurricane to top it all off).

Originally posted by black robb
thats cold,everyone knows that his one weakness is his spider testicles

i think i will start a thread where people can give scenerios about there favorite character/s. should it be called scenerios or detective stories.
should i even make one at all

Originally posted by life is cruell
I've done a little research on warbird and learned that shes actually a pretty cool character. I'll post a little information on how she is going to defeat storm.

Depleted Binary Powers-
Carol has not merely reverted to her Ms. Marvel powers. Instead, she employs the same powers she possessed as Binary but at much lower power levels. It is possible that Carol may still be able to attain the power levels she once possessed under times of extreme stress or through an extreme feat of willpower.

Flight-
Following her drop in power levels, Carol's flight speed has leveled out at around the sound barrier. Carol has years of experience flying and is highly agile and maneuverable. Carol may still be able to survive in the vacuum of space as a remnant of her interstellar abilities as Binary.

Super-Strength-
Carol possesses a "base" strength level which gives her the ability to lift approximately 50 tons. Carol can easily lift and throw cars and even tanks and has enough strength to shatter reinforced concrete or tear open five-inch steel. Carol's strength can now be augmented considerably through the absorption of additional energy.

Invulnerability-
Carol possesses a substantial degree of invulnerability. She can withstand most standard issue weaponry. Her body is tough enough to withstand machine gun fire, mortar shells and most standard energy weaponry. She has endured punches from much stronger adversaries such as Hyperion of the Squadron Supreme, though continued battle with him would definitely harm her eventually.

Energy Absorption/Manipulation-
As Warbird, she has the ability to generate blasts of "photonic" energy. Her base-level energy blasts are equivalent to those used by Iron Man.
In addition, Warbird is able to absorb energy in a manner similar to when she was linked to the power of a "white hole." She has also absorbed electricity and other forms of energy. By absorbing large amounts of energy, Warbird can increase her strength, flight speed and invulnerability, as well as the intensity of her own energy attacks.

Cosmic Awareness-
As Binary, Carol was in tune with the universe, possessing a cosmic awareness comparable to that of the Silver Surfer. Carol could retain that awareness at a much lower level. She may still be able to "see" energy patterns and might have an awareness of any major disruptions or changes in the cosmos.

"Carol has not merely reverted to her Ms. Marvel powers."

Never said she did. It would seem her base durability and strength have taken a dive since even her Ms Marvel days. She is rated as 4 in both these categories while rogue is 5 for both. She isnt quite class class 50. Shes in between 25 tons and 50 tons in lifting capacity. Being tossed about in winds, would hurt her severely and wind propelled projectiles are certainly capable of taking her out.Her durability has gone down from its Ms Marvel rating of superhuman to bulletproof.

"By absorbing large amounts of energy, Warbird can increase her strength, flight speed and invulnerability, as well as the intensity of her own energy attacks."

True. However Storm is well aware of Warbirds abilities. They are friends. She would not be so stupid as to use lightning on her. Fortunately she has other weapons at her disposal.

"She may still be able to "see" energy patterns and might have an awareness of any major disruptions or changes in the cosmos."

Its a possibility but it has yet to be shown clearly in the comics so is merely speculation which has no place in this debate.

you're so well educated on the x-men
if there was an exam you would get an A+

Originally posted by stormlover
you're so well educated on the x-men
if there was an exam you would get an A+

Why thank you lil lady/fella lol 😄

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Bring back the Spidey vs storm thread if you really want to know why he'll win.

I've posted all the facts that show that her ONLY effective weapon is going to be dropping the temperature to an unliveable amount.

Nataku dont make me punk u once again. Must u force me to inflict pain and embarassment on fellow posters. 😱

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nataku dont make me punk u once again. Must u force me to inflict pain and embarassment on fellow posters. 😱

'punk' me? Yeah, you wish.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
'punk' me? Yeah, you wish.

Natty its a regular occurrence mate. Restart the thread and let the schooling commence. 😄

Too lazy now, will do it later. Just started work again, drained... ugh.

I don't see Ororo getting past Torchie. That list is a little lapsed in power levels.

well yeah it is lapsed cause i was really tired and had to leave and had minimal time, if your open to suggestions then feel free to post them. storm has already beaten torch, and she has snuffed out his flame twice with no effort whatsoever. k, spidey isn't able to dodge the air because it is everywhere, she just electrocutes the air around him, he can't dodge somethiung that is everywhere he goes.

Originally posted by stormfront13
what do you mean? ur confusing me. it says there that it is class 5, but you said yourself that class 5 is anywhere from 25-75 tons.

^^darkcrawler

The official Handbook only says that her strength is 5. It never says if it is 70 or 20 or something else. I have the book. So you don't really have an proof that Emma is class 70.

Here is an scan:

http://img206.echo.cx/my.php?image=page0100kn.jpg

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

No but most of them were. Namor being officially stated to be class 85 yet suddenly being able to lift in excess of 100, 000 tons a feat the hulk or gladiator would struggle is just bad writing. She hulks officially stronger than the likes of thing and hercules and a host of other powerhouses yet you dont see her lifting up ridiculous things like that.

I doubt that it was suddenly. He was probably on the water then. Still, that is quite a lot of weight, even if he was on water. And Storm’s bio doesn’t say anything about her being able to use the powers of stars (I think that Sun does’t have anything to do with the weather of Earth and storm should not be able to control it). Still, suddenly, she does that. Is that bad writing too? And I’ve seen She-Hulk doing ridiculous things like winning the Champion on hand to hand fight.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

Yet blows from thors hammer have had hulk on the ropes and so on. Yet namor is no comparison to hulk in terms of strength and durability. So whats your point? What that suggests to me is that thor wasnt going all out. So that says nothing about his durability really.

Well, he was attacking the Avengers in fury…I doubt that Thor went easy on him. Why would he just nab him with his hammer? Namor has been able to survive blows from Class 100 characters who have hit him on full force, survived unharmed in a fall from space, was only minorly stunned when an bomb that was equivalent to small nuke exploded on his face, has had an mountain dropped on him…I think his durability is pretty good. He can survive most of the things that Storm hits him with.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

Incorrect. Storm and Namor are both listed as Speed rating 3. That encompasses from normal human speed to supersonic. That is why they are in the same speed class. Just like Collossus and Hulk are in the same class 100 but he is nowhere near hulks strength. In Marvels old style of bios Namor is rated as 60 mph in the marvel directory heis 60 mph. If you pick up the Dorling Kindrley Essential Guide to Fantastic Four Namor is listed as being able to fly at 60mph. Lame.

Okay, I accept the fact that Namor flies in 60 mph.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You cant read Xmen comics if you doubt storms fightin skills. Storm is an experienced fighter. Namor is more of a brawler who relies on his strength. But theyre the samerating so thats cool.

Namor is the prince of underwater nation that is strongly concentrated on warriors. Unless you know that, the royal members are usually given much better training then the normal soldiers. Combine that with Namor’s age and experience, he should have been listed at least on 4.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Storm psionically manipulates ambient energy patterns. While on earth those powers dictate the weather, while in the trion dimension they manifested as a diffreent energy type, while in space she could manifest cosmic energy bolts, therefore her rating of 5, a single energy type at a long range is correct because obviously she needs to be in an appropriate atmosphere to generate and manipulat a particular energy type. [/B]

Space does’t have atmosphere, or does it?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Storm knowing of his superstrength and agressive tendencies would be fighting from a distance. Storm can fly at 300 mph as standard but by pushing the limits of nature can reach mach speeds with effort. Storm could dodge an 8 ton bus thrown at her. Thats nearly 10% of namors overall lifting capacity. He would not be able to throw it at a speed that would threaten storm, or test her aerial manoeuvrability. [/B]

Well, Storm maybe able to fly fast, but I think that it only works if she has area and time to accelerate. She probably can’t just move around constantly in 300 mph. Besides, she has been knocked out by a brick…

And Namor has lifted 50 ton anchor with one hand…what if he throws two busses at Storm? What if he uses the battle cry to drop her down in ground? To my information, Namor and Storm have never actually met face to face. She has probably only heard him in news. She does’t know everything about Namor.

yeah she is listed at class 5, bt you said that class 5 means anywhere from 20-70 tons. do you have proof that she is only class 50 when it has been mentioned elsewhere that she is above that? once again, storm is able to control the elements of the storm even in space, she isn't limited to only earth. and once again, you described the battle cry as sound, but storm is able to do something to the air that will let no sound near her. yes, a brick traveling at hurricane winds which is around 350, that would have knocked most anybody out. and storm has great aceleration. often when the x-men take off she can keep up at flight speed and beat most of them. even in dire situtation s when they have to hurry, she can keep up with them.

I haven't said anything about Emma being class 50. But have said that Emma is class 70, and you haven't said where elsewhere it has been mentioned that she is Class 70...

And Storm being knocked out by brick was to show that she is not that great dodger after all.

And Storm can't move around with her top speed all the time. She has to summon the winds that move her. She has still normal human reactions.

k, it was mentioned on marvel.com a while ago. storm wasn't focused on the brick, and didn't know it was coming at her(from what i have been told and seen). and namors wind-speed is 60, where storm goes 60 for fun. she doesn't have to go her top speed to avoid namor

No, but how fast do you think that things thrown by Class 100 character go?