Originally posted by Advent
We could do without your commentary, Nebaris. How did he "burn me", btw? Because I didn't think we were talking about strictly Sith Lords? Okay. The point is, pick a subject to debate me about - I challenge you to a debate, let's see if you can defeat me without help.
ROFL
OK, pick ten topics, I'll choose 1 out of the ten you pick. No bounty hunter rubbish- strictly between force users.
Originally posted by Advent
As I said: don't act as if you can actually debate, Nebaris. Answer my PM so we can begin.
You don't make sense. Whether I can debate or not, that was just a very weird reply - was I doing anything related to debating - was I boasting for instance? No, you're wrong. Great start by the way. 👆
Originally posted by Emperor Revan
Exaggerated? No, it's coming from a reliable source, not from you. She has no reason to exaggerate. Want reasons why we think Revan is so powerful? First play KOTOR 1 and 2, finding everything you can about Revan. That's even better than the paragraphs I'm about to post.Revan was always powerful. Even as a padawan, his teachers were sure that he would become a champion of the Force. His master Kreia said "Revan was power. Staring at him was like staring into the heart of the Force.” Revan had a lust for knowledge, seeking out every piece of information he could about the Jedi. Revan is an extremely quick learner, doing in weeks what many cannot do in years. Master Zhar even goes as far as saying his potential is unlimited.
Revan has the highest level of Battle precog, has the Will power to resist the Dark side of an entire planet that no one else (not even Kreia) could resist, controlled a star, is perhaps the greatest tactician ever, has enormously high potential, plunders all the knowledge he could from the Jedi temples, he plundered tombs, relics, artifacts, and knowledge from a planet sized Sith storehouse of knowledge, learned dozens of ways to kill or turn Jedi/Sith, fights for 6 years straight as the leader of one of the main forces in the two different wars against powerful opponents, killing Mandalore and the strongest Echani, and was considered by Kreia (Revan's mentor who could kill three Jedi council members at the same time with one use of the Force) to be the heart of the Force.
Then he loses all that power and becomes a Jedi again, he plunders Korriban, including the tombs of four very powerful dark lords, gaining their artifacts, learning from Tulak's holocron, killing two tarentateks at the same time by himself when just one could easily kill a Jedi, he killed everyone in a Sith academy that he started, he killed the best bounty hunter at that time, a Sith Lord, he killed hundreds of dark Jedi and assassin droids, defeated and killed his apprentice Darth Malak at least twice in a row, and became even stronger than he was during his first reign (first paragraph).
Then he recovers all his memories and knowledge from Malachor V, the Jedi temples, etc. increasing his power greatly from the second paragraph, before he goes to fight the ancient Sith empire single handedly.
your an idiot, its a video game and you cant compare it to the movies.
firstly he comes from a different time period, not to mention format of media(video game). thats like putting the sas or swat against samurai or 15th centuary soldiers, it doesn't work.
his battle precog', force powers, ect are all FEATS OF A GAME!!!!, no jedi or sith in any other game, movie, book,comic, ect have ever learned as many powrs lightsaber forms, ect (not even yoda)!
the bit about staring into the heart of the force is BS. i could say to you "looking at you is like looking at the sun" are you a sun? look at it as a metafor! she proberly means that he is powerful in his era to resist the dark side but not the heart of the force, if anybody was the heart of the force then anakin would be.
a quick learner doesn't matter other jedi and for that matter, other beings are quick learners. he learned what many cannot do in years because he was remembering it from his past.
a champion of the force doesn't mean that he is going to be that powerful. IMO yoda, obi-wan and palp' are champions of the force, not revan.
the rest of what you say just makes the game more exiting as most games have the main charactor rising up and becoming powerful enough to beat the boss/es of that game, think of other games and think about that format, guess what im right!
in summary, revan is strong but not that strong and certainly not as strong as 'the heart of the force'. if anakin reached his potential then he could MAYBE do those things but a smart and quicker learning jedi/sith wouldn't. He's proberly a master but the game cant be used as a reliable source to the movies and i dont think games should be counted as the facts. they are created for the gamers experience, if the player's charator is god-like then they will be happy and enjoy wipping out NPC's, it doesn't reflect what would be written.
Originally posted by Advent
Only a legend for having legions and hordes of fanboys that cannot quantify, amplify, or put into context things about Revan. And who use purely gameplay as basis for an argument, when half of it isn't even canon.
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Sith Lord Windu
your an idiot, its a video game and you cant compare it to the movies.firstly he comes from a different time period, not to mention format of media(video game). thats like putting the sas or swat against samurai or 15th centuary soldiers, it doesn't work.
his battle precog', force powers, ect are all FEATS OF A GAME!!!!, no jedi or sith in any other game, movie, book,comic, ect have ever learned as many powrs lightsaber forms, ect (not even yoda)!
the bit about staring into the heart of the force is BS. i could say to you "looking at you is like looking at the sun" are you a sun? look at it as a metafor! she proberly means that he is powerful in his era to resist the dark side but not the heart of the force, if anybody was the heart of the force then anakin would be.
a quick learner doesn't matter other jedi and for that matter, other beings are quick learners. he learned what many cannot do in years because he was remembering it from his past.
a champion of the force doesn't mean that he is going to be that powerful. IMO yoda, obi-wan and palp' are champions of the force, not revan.
the rest of what you say just makes the game more exiting as most games have the main charactor rising up and becoming powerful enough to beat the boss/es of that game, think of other games and think about that format, guess what im right!
in summary, revan is strong but not that strong and certainly not as strong as 'the heart of the force'. if anakin reached his potential then he could MAYBE do those things but a smart and quicker learning jedi/sith wouldn't. He's proberly a master but the game cant be used as a reliable source to the movies and i dont think games should be counted as the facts. they are created for the gamers experience, if the player's charator is god-like then they will be happy and enjoy wipping out NPC's, it doesn't reflect what would be written.
Well considering this is the EU forum, they can be compared, and in EU sources, many of the Jedi/Sith had the video game powers
Originally posted by Darth Kreiger
Well considering this is the EU forum, they can be compared, and in EU sources, many of the Jedi/Sith had the video game powers
what im trying to get across if you even read my post is that revan is nowere near as powerful as the games and fanboys make him out to be! ill admit that hes good but not 'the heart of the force'. i think that he is as powerful as ROTS anakin or obi-wan at the star forge point. many of the powers are from the movies and others are just tacy bad powers like force shield, how can an it defend against a blaster or saber blow?
anyways, darth sion or darth bane would win. sion cant die unless he lets go of the force, and bane would stay out of the fight and sneak the least kill.
Originally posted by Sith Lord Windu
what im trying to get across if you even read my post is that revan is nowere near as powerful as the games and fanboys make him out to be! ill admit that hes good but not 'the heart of the force'. i think that he is as powerful as ROTS anakin or obi-wan at the star forge point. many of the powers are from the movies and others are just tacy bad powers like force shield, how can an it defend against a blaster or saber blow?anyways, darth sion or darth bane would win. sion cant die unless he lets go of the force, and bane would stay out of the fight and sneak the least kill.
What are you talking about? Revan is nowhere as powerful as what? Revan was powerful this much is conclusive. What isn't conclusive is how powerful he was compared to some of the greats, considering his story is unfinished. I would put Revan on par with Yoda, maybe a little less.