Who is the strongest Dark Lord?

The movies are the cause for most problems in these situations. How could Lucas possibly know what his creation was going to spawn back in 1977? Back then, Vader was a badass, his looks, his grip, his evil menace, yet they still couldn't give him the abilities that Lucasarts gave Revan or Desann, or Sadow etc... in the 21st century. Poor Vader, if only computer technology was available to Lucas back in '77, he could've made Darth one kickass mofo that would be hard for any Sith conceived after him to top. Try to remember, Force lightening is now the standard move for a Dark Side follower, back in '83 though, it was the top of the line move for apparently omnipotent Emperors. However, despite the mass following of newer Star Wars games, Vader remains #2 on the list of most evil movie villains of all time, #2 only to Dr. Lectar.

Originally posted by Nactous
(Your basing everything you seen and read in Kotor 1 and 2 with the movies. Kotor haddened 4,000 years ago! That's comparing warriors from different eras.) quote from General Zodiac.

Kotor happend four thousand years, and trust me they were much more powerful. If you want to fear Vader, fear the EU Vader. If just follow the movies like the majority of the population you can see that Vader didn't do many if any great things. He didn't kill Mandalore, kill his apprentice, find a factory to construct an infident factory, got around in the galaxy, and corrupt thousands. If you ask me, Vader is just Palpatines puppet.

Everyone was palpatines puppet.

Originally posted by Tangible God
What is this obsession people have with Revan. Someone tell me please. Is it because you play his character, is it because he looks cool? It's that isn't it, the neat mask and dark Robe and cape. He wasn't even the strongest, by far he isn't. learn the history and you can see that. Someone answer though why he's so loved and overrated.

I've explained countless time why Revans great, go read my bloody posts then come back and apologize for being ignorant...and get me a cookie.

Originally posted by Tangible God
The movies are the cause for most problems in these situations. How could Lucas possibly know what his creation was going to spawn back in 1977? Back then, Vader was a badass, his looks, his grip, his evil menace, yet they still couldn't give him the abilities that Lucasarts gave Revan or Desann, or Sadow etc... in the 21st century. Poor Vader, if only computer technology was available to Lucas back in '77, he could've made Darth one kickass mofo that would be hard for any Sith conceived after him to top. Try to remember, Force lightening is now the standard move for a Dark Side follower, back in '83 though, it was the top of the line move for apparently omnipotent Emperors. However, despite the mass following of newer Star Wars games, Vader remains #2 on the list of most evil movie villains of all time, #2 only to Dr. Lectar.

Um sure, first off they had computer technology back in 1977, I'm not sure if you've seen the movies but there are these things called lightsabers, and then there are these guns that shoot plasma bolt type things, they're called blasters. See neither of these weapons would have been possible if there wasnt COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY. Secondly, Sadow is in a comic book so that has nothing to do with technology. And see a few years back they began making a prequel trilogy for Star Wars. And just a few months ago they released the third installment. In it they used the most advanced technology to create unbelieveable graphics and really mad Vader look like a kickass mofo with Force Powers and flips and jumps and twirls and cool lightsaber combat, and guess what, he still sucks.

And it's Lecter with an E

Originally posted by Human Vader
Um sure, first off they had computer technology back in 1977, I'm not sure if you've seen the movies but there are these things called lightsabers, and then there are these guns that shoot plasma bolt type things, they're called blasters. See neither of these weapons would have been possible if there wasnt COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY. Secondly, Sadow is in a comic book so that has nothing to do with technology. And see a few years back they began making a prequel trilogy for Star Wars. And just a few months ago they released the third installment. In it they used the most advanced technology to create unbelieveable graphics and really mad Vader look like a kickass mofo with Force Powers and flips and jumps and twirls and cool lightsaber combat, and guess what, he still sucks.

And it's Lecter with an E

Originally posted by Darth_Frobo
I've explained countless time why Revans great, go read my bloody posts then come back and apologize for being ignorant...and get me a cookie.

why does no one say nihilus he could suck out the force from any and every (I think) sith. he even sucked out the force from a planet.

O and i reckon vader rules even though he isnt that poiwerful he still rules if they had decent computer technology then he would proberbly be relly fast in the first trilogy and lector u suck.
Tangeable god u r kool

Originally posted by Tangible God
Um, yeah. But you know what I'm talking about right? Of course there was computer technology back then, but can you see the difference between back then and now? Try creating Coruscant or Mustafar or Geonosis the way we see them now, back then. Pretty hard. Luke force jumped like 5 times in the movies, yet look how many are in the prequels. Obi-Wan and Vader's duel on the Death Star was pretty bad compared to their first one together. Even if he is an old man in ANH, if they had the technology back then, well that last fight would've been more...."bouncy." Hell even all the battle droids and most of the clonetroopers are CGI. The Star Destroyers and Millenium Falcon, even the Death Star when it exploded were all models on a blue screen. As for the Sadow thing---c'mon I was just trying to make a damn point. And the last three movies didn't show Black Armor clad Vader jumping around and swinging his arms wildly, we saw that sissyass boy with psycho eyes doing that. The Vader in the first trilogy moved like a fatman on a hot day compared to the prequel man. Why's that? Because of LACK OF COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY. Maybe it's a good thing we didn't see that Vader, might've ruined our whole perspective of the one we grew up with..............yeah. Oh and that "E" in Lecter...I read an article in the paper about the villain list over two months ago, whether it's an E or an A isn't gonna stick. So pardon me for that obscenely graphic error, but uh...THBBTHT! 🙄

I know what you meant, I was responding to what you posted. Maybe if you had any writing skill at all, you could have expressed what you wanted to say the first time. Lack of computer technology is different than NO computer technology. And whether it was suit vader or human vader in ROTS jumping around, IT'S THE SAME F*CKING PERSON. Youre sitting over here ranting about how everyone thinks Vader sucks cause he didnt have any CGI to make his battles look cool, yet in ROTS hes the BIGGEST BADASS IN THE F*CKING MOVIE, and he gets one of the coolest fight scenes ever. Youre just a movie loving fan boy so you don't want to admit that characters like Revan, Kun or Ragnos could ever compete with, let alone be better than Vader. Vader's a joke compared to those guys, no matter how much CGI battle scenes he gets. I mean Yoda was a f*cking puppet in the OT and I still regarded him as one of the most powerful jeedai ever. Just admit some EU characters are much more acomplished and skilled than some movie characters, or go back to the movie forums, in case you have trouble with the numbers there are three of them for you. Oh and i doubt you even know who Lecter is if you "read his name in a magazine". Pick up Silence of the Lambs *******, one of the best books ever written.

You guys are all missing the point. The greatest followers of the dark side are jawa. Darth Janus, their leader, can "oooteenie!" and shake a planet, making Ragnos wet his robes.

Nobody would truly know....any one of the dark sith could make it out....I think people love revan because they played him in Kotor....Even the most powerful Sith lord could be beat here...there was way to many Sith Lords...It could be the weakest of them all because the others didnt see him as a threat and he would keep hitting them by surprise....

Originally posted by Human Vader
I know what you meant, I was responding to what you posted. Maybe if you had any writing skill at all, you could have expressed what you wanted to say the first time. Lack of computer technology is different than NO computer technology. And whether it was suit vader or human vader in ROTS jumping around, IT'S THE SAME F*CKING PERSON. Youre sitting over here ranting about how everyone thinks Vader sucks cause he didnt have any CGI to make his battles look cool, yet in ROTS hes the BIGGEST BADASS IN THE F*CKING MOVIE, and he gets one of the coolest fight scenes ever. Youre just a movie loving fan boy so you don't want to admit that characters like Revan, Kun or Ragnos could ever compete with, let alone be better than Vader. Vader's a joke compared to those guys, no matter how much CGI battle scenes he gets. I mean Yoda was a f*cking puppet in the OT and I still regarded him as one of the most powerful jeedai ever. Just admit some EU characters are much more acomplished and skilled than some movie characters, or go back to the movie forums, in case you have trouble with the numbers there are three of them for you. Oh and i doubt you even know who Lecter is if you "read his name in a magazine". Pick up Silence of the Lambs *******, one of the best books ever written.

And that whole Lecter thing...who gives a flying f*ck how you spell Anthony Hopkins' famous character as the genius, cannibalistic, physciatrist(Yeah I've seen the movie, ya monkeys' scrotum)...E or an A, ooo wow, big deal.

LMAO, God, I've never swore so much in one post, I shouldn't have had four large french vanillas in 20 minutes.

Oh and hey, H Vader man, no hard feelings, I want you to reply to this, I have fun discussing non-sensible things about Star Wars. But right now, I'm gonna eat a kiwi. 🤘

Originally posted by darth fury
O and i reckon vader rules even though he isnt that poiwerful he still rules if they had decent computer technology then he would proberbly be relly fast in the first trilogy and lector u suck.
Tangeable god u r kool

Exar Kun was the strongest of the dark lords in saber combat as u seen in EP I how darth maul demolished a jedi master in no time and exar has master the 2nd lightsaber from [Saber Vs saber] and as he is a force spirit he puts the strongest jedi ever [luke] into a coma with the wave of his had, and since he made the sith saber [staff] he masterd it beyond every one eles, only person i think who might beat him was Darth revan coz he was a very well blanced sith and ragnos as he had the abbilty to hurl stars round the galaixe with force abbiltys like that who knows what he can do, but i still stand be exar kun 🙂

Originally posted by darth fury
why does no one say nihilus he could suck out the force from any and every (I think) sith. he even sucked out the force from a planet.

Dude every one had the abbilty to "Force drain" not from planets obviusly but still

Oh and i forgot to metion about Darth bane, as he was abel to survie the Sith thought bomb [like a Death star shot but dosnt blow the planet up just kills all on it] So they must be something special about him

Nihilus' power goes far beyond that of a simple Force Drain, although I agree with you 100% on Kun.

Originally posted by Tangible God
Um, yeah. But you know what I'm talking about right? Of course there was computer technology back then, but can you see the difference between back then and now? Try creating Coruscant or Mustafar or Geonosis the way we see them now, back then. Pretty hard. Luke force jumped like 5 times in the movies, yet look how many are in the prequels. Obi-Wan and Vader's duel on the Death Star was pretty bad compared to their first one together. Even if he is an old man in ANH, if they had the technology back then, well that last fight would've been more...."bouncy." Hell even all the battle droids and most of the clonetroopers are CGI. The Star Destroyers and Millenium Falcon, even the Death Star when it exploded were all models on a blue screen. As for the Sadow thing---c'mon I was just trying to make a damn point. And the last three movies didn't show Black Armor clad Vader jumping around and swinging his arms wildly, we saw that sissyass boy with psycho eyes doing that. The Vader in the first trilogy moved like a fatman on a hot day compared to the prequel man. Why's that? Because of LACK OF COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY. Maybe it's a good thing we didn't see that Vader, might've ruined our whole perspective of the one we grew up with..............yeah. Oh and that "E" in Lecter...I read an article in the paper about the villain list over two months ago, whether it's an E or an A isn't gonna stick. So pardon me for that obscenely graphic error, but uh...THBBTHT! 🙄

The location in the OT are a little balnd. But have you ever heard about Bespin, they did great with that planet back in 80', they could have done Coruscant. Quiet complaining about the whole damn jumping thing, I believe he would have a hard tie jumping around anyway with metal legs. BTW, I like Vader more than I do Anakin, if you ask me, Vader seems more powerful than Hayden anyday.

Originally posted by Nactous
The location in the OT are a little balnd. But have you ever heard about Bespin, they did great with that planet back in 80', they could have done Coruscant. Quiet complaining about the whole damn jumping thing, I believe he would have a hard tie jumping around anyway with metal legs. BTW, I like Vader more than I do Anakin, if you ask me, Vader seems more powerful than Hayden anyday.

I think Sidious, clever, manipulating and mad.

wasnt nihilus as sith lord and if he is then i pick him cause he can kill basically any1 other than exile but if he isnt i gotta go with revan ...... because i like his mask 😛