Desann vs. Revan

Started by 2Tidus!10 pages

Dude. Then why did he send out Kyle to kill him? You make no sense.
Maybe he was dissapointed because he couldn't beat Dessan? Well? There's no true fact about that.

Its a possibility, but think...Do you really think Luke Skywalker is that weak? He may not be as strong in JO or JA like he is in NJO, but he still has power. Also remember in a lot of books, video games, and possibly comics Luke always tries to redeem someone, before having to kill them. In one of the Jedi Academy books Luke asks himself..."Why am I always trying to be a Jedi Healer?" or something like that.

You can tell after the battle with Desaan Luke is not even damaged. He just jumps out of the pile of rubble he was smashed under. And what do you think the head shake means? Its means he was not happy and he thought he failed in bringing Desaan back, or something...

Luke was holding back on Desann. Watch the fight, I'm pretty sure he doesn't attack, he only defends. Why would Desann use the Force to pin him and then run away without even looking for the body? Luke gets out easily without even breathing hard and shakes his head. Desann was once a student and just like Vader Luke was trying to turn them back to the light side. And like Fishy said, at that time he was just an average Jedi master really, he gets FAR stronger later on.

Desann is not a Sith lord. Every Sith lord is stronger than Desann, possibly with a couple exceptions but Lord Revan killed one of the strongest ever and then Revan got even stronger.

But It's a possibility. Dessan was already very dark, and almost a complete Jedi Knight. And Luke's a sissy, he couldn't go and kill Dessan himself? Or what about the disciples of Ragnos, he always gave out missions and stayed at the academy. In Jedi Outcast when he jumpes in with Kyle in the clone hangar, he prooved to be weak. Using Style I.

If you can tell the style that Luke uses by a game then you really are great...

Anyways Luke was indeed not much more then a normal Jedi Master at that time, Desann still couldn't defeat him. That Luke wasn't fighting was logical because Luke was the master and the head of the council and it would make the game stink.

Luke wouldn't fight with Form I...he's a Form V practiciner.

Originally posted by 2Tidus!
But It's a possibility. Dessan was already very dark, and almost a complete Jedi Knight. And Luke's a sissy, he couldn't go and kill Dessan himself? Or what about the disciples of Ragnos, he always gave out missions and stayed at the academy. In Jedi Outcast when he jumpes in with Kyle in the clone hangar, he prooved to be weak. Using Style I.

It was the computer, what did you expect? Did you notice all the powers he has? Lightsaber throw level 3 for instance which Kyle doesn't get till the very end of the game.

This is Form I...

As the weapons technology of the lightsaber was developed, the need for a form of combat arose. Thus Form I, also called Way of the Sarlacc, was born. Ancient sword-fighting traditions held key principles of blade combat that were implemented by early Jedi Masters in the rather basic technical tactics of Form I.

Form I, like its succeeding forms, includes the following basic techniques and concepts:

attack, a set of attacks aimed at different body zones
parry, a set of blocks to thwart any attack in the specified body zones
body target zones (1, head, 2, left arm, 3, right arm, 4, back, 5, left leg, 6, right leg)
training drills called velocities
Younglings, the Jedi initiate rank, first learn Form I before they begin a Padawan apprenticeship with a Jedi Master. In Star Wars: Attack of the Clones, the Younglings can be seen being taught by Yoda to deflect light plasma shots

This is the form Luke uses...Form V...

Form V (also called "the Way of the Krayt Dragon"😉 is a powerful style developed by Form III practitioners that preferred a more offensive angle. The defensive nature of Form III often leads to dangerously prolonged combat. This style came about from combining Forms II and III. Anakin, both as himself and as Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker, and Jedi Master Plo Koon are all practitioners of Form V. Jedi Master Agen Kolar may possibly have been a Form V practitioner since he favoured aggression negotiations.

Form V maintains its existence through having sufficient defensive skills, as derived from Form III, but channeling defense into offense. The example is commonly used that while Form III combatants effortlessly deflect laser bolts, Form V practitioners excel at redirecting the laser bolt toward the opponent. This simultaneously defends the user and efficiently injures the opponent. As well, it employs a basic form of Form II's parries, allowing the user to parry the attempted attack, and counter it. It is different from Form III in the fact that practictioners of Form V will press the assault, using wide, sweeping blows in an attempt to overwhelm the opponent with brute strength. The aggressive philosophy of Form V is the source of many a Jedi's disapproval.

With the aggressive but yet refined movements of Form II and the highly defensive postures of Form III, Shien / Djem So has been proven to be an effective style.

Revan Easily.........

If Kyle Katarn can beat Desann then Revan could easily kick Desann's ass

omg this thread is full of crap.........

Revan owns dessan bigtime.

And wtf is this dessan can beat luke crap.
Dessan was and arrogant apprentice who learned how to use the dark side of the force yipeee.
Luke in the other hand has mastered the force in ways thats no one else has even dreamed of.

Fishy I applaud your perseverance in trying to teach these guys common sense but they just wont listen.

Oh and btw general zodiac look at the poll........

Yeah and the poll's messed up as it is. Desann shouldn't have gotten two votes.

He shouldn't have gotten 1... Polls don't count for much anyway. Ussually only a few people know what they are voting for the rest just votes without reading the thread.

I almost never even vote anymore, at least not when the answer is still debatable...

True but the polls are usually pretty accurate to what the fight would be like, not necessarily the winner. If the polls a blow out then the fight would be easy and if it's close then the fight will be close. Not always but a lot.

i just dont see how people think that dessan not even a jedi night could take out luke i mean come on. and why send kyle to go do it instead of luke hmmm? its a test for kyle you cant just renunce being a jedi and then come back whenever you want all willy nilly you still have to prove yourself again in kyles case since he stumbled into it first it was his mission to end it and he had kyles gal so you think kyle would stay out of the fight.

Revan I doubt even has to pull out his lightsaber.

And saying Desaan could beat Luke is just an answer of ignorace.

Originally posted by Darth Plagues
Revan I doubt even has to pull out his lightsaber.

And saying Desaan could beat Luke is just an answer of ignorace.

ya you're right but the part about desaan beating luke beaing ignorant its just flat out stupidity.

Doesn't matter. Jerec would come in and kill Revan.

wtf? are you talkin about general zodiac jerec couldnt beat revan either.

I said Revan...**** i ment Desann. My bad.

o ok thx for the clarification.