The bible says earth is only 7000 yerars old science says it is 5,000,000,000 Y.o

I'm not sure whether or not you were trying to agree or disagree with my previous post debbiejo but I found the websites that you posted to be quite interesting.

I'm not surprised that men have gathered much evidence to prove that the Bible is not perfect and contains many errors.

I will never believe that God is so powerless that he can't even send a message without having it messed up in some way. If the Bible is just one of the many flawed creations of men then I would think that it would be obviously incorrect to many christians.

If the Bible is true then the devil is a liar. That is no small thing as only part of the truth has to be changed to make it an untruth. Men are arrogant and prideful and believe in themselves quite often.

Emotions (such as pride) can be manipulated by people, so why would anyone think that the enemy of God and man can not manipulate men in far more devious and subtle ways than humans can.

If the Bible is perfect then the prince of lies must discredit that perfection with evidence that appears perfect. The only thing that one can do when faced with such evidence is to have faith.

God exists and that should be obvious as the only thing that is flawed in this world is death.

I also believe that he is capable of protecting his word from the devil just like he protected his three servants in the fiery furnace. Note that the fire kept burning and destroyed their bonds and killed some gaurds. The fire stayed and did what it was supposed to do, it was no less dangerous. God protected what was his from what should have destroyed it because of the faith displayed.

I have faith that no matter how accurate outside sources seem to be they cannot burn away the accuracy of Gods truth.

Peace fam. 😮‍💨

And thanks Cordera! What you been up to? 😎

Facts have no place within organised religion 😛

Originally posted by The MISTER
I'm not sure whether or not you were trying to agree or disagree with my previous post debbiejo but I found the websites that you posted to be quite interesting.

I'm not surprised that men have gathered much evidence to prove that the Bible is not perfect and contains many errors.

I will never believe that God is so powerless that he can't even send a message without having it messed up in some way. If the Bible is just one of the many flawed creations of men then I would think that it would be obviously incorrect to many christians.

If the Bible is true then the devil is a liar. That is no small thing as only part of the truth has to be changed to make it an untruth. Men are arrogant and prideful and believe in themselves quite often.

Emotions (such as pride) can be manipulated by people, so why would anyone think that the enemy of God and man can not manipulate men in far more devious and subtle ways than humans can.

If the Bible is perfect then the prince of lies must discredit that perfection with evidence that appears perfect. The only thing that one can do when faced with such evidence is to have faith.

God exists and that should be obvious as the only thing that is flawed in this world is death.

I also believe that he is capable of protecting his word from the devil just like he protected his three servants in the fiery furnace. Note that the fire kept burning and destroyed their bonds and killed some gaurds. The fire stayed and did what it was supposed to do, it was no less dangerous. God protected what was his from what should have destroyed it because of the faith displayed.

I have faith that no matter how accurate outside sources seem to be they cannot burn away the accuracy of Gods truth.

Peace fam. 😮‍💨

And thanks Cordera! What you been up to? 😎

Originally posted by fruits
dude you rock. awesome points. so you say death is flawed, howso? the fact that we aren't sure what happens after, the the process of death itself has flaws??

Thanks man! 😎

Actually my statement about death is purely theoretical because death is beyond my understanding.

It just seems to me that it is not something that God loves and just like hatred is not something that he willed on the earth. It is something that was a byproduct of the mis-use of free will.

God owns everything and everyone but free will probably started with the angels. If they never had free will then there would be no devil.

Free will is something that is NOT controlled and is therefore unpredictable to at least some degree.

An example... If you own a dog then he's you're property, and if you keep him in a cage or in the house or on a leash he is always in your control. You give him freedom and release your control and you hope that he doesn't get himself killed by running in the street or crapping in the trigger happy neighbors yard but if you have freed him then these things may happen and you may regret your decision to set him loose.

Humankind ran away from home after being set free and death became a factor after this show of disobedience. It's still quite a mystery though and that's all just a theory of my own.

Peace. 😮‍💨

My question is: Do you know the 100% history of the earth?

If the Bible is true then the devil is a liar.

I know that I'm not perfect and that I don't know everything so I won't purposely lie to myself or anyone else and say that I'm positive about something that I'm not positive about. That is arrogance and nothing else

Originally posted by XxoooxX
In the beginging of the bible it says earth was about 6000 7000 years old or somthig like that.

But science says that the earth is like 5 billian years old

The oldest rocks which have been found so far (on the Earth) date to about 3.8 to 3.9 billion years ago (by several radiometric dating methods). Some of these rocks are sedimentary, and include minerals which are themselves as old as 4.1 to 4.2 billion years. Rocks of this age are relatively rare, however rocks that are at least 3.5 billion years in age have been found on North America, Greenland, Australia, Africa, and Asia.

So where'd all the ground come from that covered the bones? If its dust moved from other areas of earth, wouldn't it have decreased in the other areas? Or if its dust randomly from space, there still wouldn't be much of it because of what happend with the moon.

And also, if the scientists were true and the moon should be covered in moon dust, then the moon + earth + universe haven't been around for as long as they say it is.

AND why is the bible there saying believed true stories if its all fake? Is their anything else thats beleived to have been around so long that tells of the past?

Greek mythology...

And does anyone even beleive in that anymore?

Has anything it said come true since it was created?

AND why is the bible there saying believed true stories if its all fake? Is their anything else thats beleived to have been around so long that tells of the past?

Originally posted by finti
nobody does, but we know a great deal about the earths history

how so, the devil just got a different view on it all. That doesnt make the devil a liar

to this I agree, but only one question though. Making assumption into what you have no clues to what so ever aint that arrogance as well?

I said IF the Bible is true. I believe that it is. Everyone else can account for themself as far as what they believe to be true or untrue.

I'm not clueless in any assumption that I may make but that doesn't change the fact that if I can't present physical evidence then it remains an idea that is based on faith and not hard evidence.

What would be arrogant would be to say that I am not incorrect in any way or that I am not capable of misinterperating something that seems simple but possibly has a deeper meaning.

That's why I feel that it is important not to speak as if I have the last word on a subject that I know is too complex for me to understand fully.

I will however speak with authority on the things that have been proven to be the truth. I can say that there is NOTHING in the bible that I can prove to be untrue but there are many things in the bible that I have witnessed to be the truth. I believe that it is 100% truth despite the fact that I don't understand it 100%. But I'm happy to admit that my belief is faith based.

The best example that I can think of is the book of Proverbs. I have found that all of the writings in this book are true and none of them are false. I also prefer the old text ( thee, thus, thy) because it's the oldest form of english that I know of and that is the language that I speak.

I'm somewhat wary of an english to english translation because I worry that when you translate something from one language to the same language then the only thing that is truly changed is the message.
However I know that if one truly desires to know the truth then they will find it eventually.

And you stated that "we" know alot about the history of the earth. I'm glad that many people do. I know however that I am only accountable for what I believe to be true and untrue and that the same is the situation for every individual including yourself. "WE" are all very very unique and I know that there has never been and there will never again be another "you" or another "me".

So I hope that YOU are not lucky, but rather blessed with much happiness and wisdom for "we" can never have too much of either.

Peace. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by finti
Buddhism has been around longer than chrisitanity so

True, yet, Why would there be more than one god? and has thier holy book made any predictions that have come true?

True, yet, Why would there be more than one god?

and has thier holy book made any predictions that have come true?

Originally posted by XxoooxX
Well the bible said that god was comeing to earth in the year 2000 He diding 😂

Actually, the Gospels repeatedly place Jesus's return in his OWN generation. When Jesus spoke of the kingdom of god on earth he meant in that generation. So either he was a lair or more likely, made delusional by his own religious stupor. It has been the tradition of church fathers to deceive their flock by leaving out these passages and preaching that "The end is near". Well, it didn't happen in 1000 AD as advertised, it didn't happen in 2000 AD either. It never will.

Originally posted by The MISTER
I said IF the Bible is true. I believe that it is. Everyone else can account for themself as far as what they believe to be true or untrue.

I'm not clueless in any assumption that I may make but that doesn't change the fact that if I can't present physical evidence then it remains an idea that is based on faith and not hard evidence.

What would be arrogant would be to say that I am not incorrect in any way or that I am not capable of misinterperating something that seems simple but possibly has a deeper meaning.

That's why I feel that it is important not to speak as if I have the last word on a subject that I know is too complex for me to understand fully.

I will however speak with authority on the things that have been proven to be the truth. I can say that there is NOTHING in the bible that I can prove to be untrue but there are many things in the bible that I have witnessed to be the truth. I believe that it is 100% truth despite the fact that I don't understand it 100%. But I'm happy to admit that my belief is faith based.

The best example that I can think of is the book of Proverbs. I have found that all of the writings in this book are true and none of them are false. I also prefer the old text ( thee, thus, thy) because it's the oldest form of english that I know of and that is the language that I speak.

I'm somewhat wary of an english to english translation because I worry that when you translate something from one language to the same language then the only thing that is truly changed is the message.
However I know that if one truly desires to know the truth then they will find it eventually.

And you stated that "we" know alot about the history of the earth. I'm glad that many people do. I know however that I am only accountable for what I believe to be true and untrue and that the same is the situation for every individual including yourself. "WE" are all very very unique and I know that there has never been and there will never again be another "you" or another "me".

So I hope that YOU are not lucky, but rather blessed with much happiness and wisdom for "we" can never have too much of either.

Peace. 😮‍💨

We are told the Bible has no scientific errors, yet it says the bat is a bird (Lev. 11:13,19), hares chew the cud (Lev. 11:5-6), and some fowl (Lev. 11:20-21) and insects (Lev. 11:22-23) have four legs.

How could Moses have written the first five books in the Bible (the Pentateuch) when his own death and burial are described in Deut. 34:5-6 ("So Moses the servant of the Lord died there in the land of Moab ... and he buried him in a valley. . . ."😉?

Surely you don't believe Eccl. 1:9 RSV ("What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done; there is nothing new under the sun"😉? How many cities had an atomic bomb dropped on them prior to 1945, and how many people walked on the moon before 1969?

Either you've never read the the bible, Lack comprehension skills or CHOOSE not believe what your own eyes tell you.

Originally posted by Mr. Charlie
Actually, the Gospels repeatedly place Jesus's return in his OWN generation. When Jesus spoke of the kingdom of god on earth he meant in that generation. So either he was a lair or more likely, made delusional by his own religious stupor. It has been the tradition of church fathers to deceive their flock by leaving out these passages and preaching that "The end is near". Well, it didn't happen in 1000 AD as advertised, it didn't happen in 2000 AD either. It never will.

We are told the Bible has no scientific errors, yet it says the bat is a bird (Lev. 11:13,19), hares chew the cud (Lev. 11:5-6), and some fowl (Lev. 11:20-21) and insects (Lev. 11:22-23) have four legs.

How could Moses have written the first five books in the Bible (the Pentateuch) when his own death and burial are described in Deut. 34:5-6 ("So Moses the servant of the Lord died there in the land of Moab ... and he buried him in a valley. . . ."😉?

Surely you don't believe Eccl. 1:9 RSV ("What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done; there is nothing new under the sun"😉? How many cities had an atomic bomb dropped on them prior to 1945, and how many people walked on the moon before 1969?

Originally posted by FeceMan
Do you have any proof of this, or are you pulling it out of your ass?

Actually Fece....many churches teach that....the Reformed church is one of them......Also mentioned in some Gnostic's Gospels.....

And that when Jesus was talking about the great day of the lord, or people leaving what they were doing and head for the hills, not going back for anything in their house....He was referring to the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD....If you read Josephus writings on that time period....It was a horrendous time...the people were trapped and surrounded by the Roman solders...and resorted too cannibalism....I think it was Josephus's writings.....

Originally posted by finti
why shouldnt there be more than one god

how much of the biblical prediction can be 100% verified to have come true beyond any doubt at all, and that they were written before these so called predicted events

They already have come true, the Bible said that God made man from earth and science has proven that humans are made out of the same things as, dirt which is earth. They said that god made the stars (also meaning planets, but they didn't know they existed when it was wrote) as large, shapeless objects (which are techinically spheres because they have no corners.) They also said other things which were also proved right by science itself.

Originally posted by XxoooxX
Well the bible said that god was comeing to earth in the year 2000 He diding 😂

There is no where in the Bible that claims that.