Here, you claim that speciation has occurred since the time of the "great flood" to account for the impossibility of every modern species of animal having been on the ark:
Originally posted by Chibi Boy
The problem is, everyone forgets that this was about 6000 years ago, there wasn't as many animals then because of the low amount of time to breed millions of animals. At that time there would probably have only been 10,000 animals on earth altogether which means about 5000 on the Ark, which could actually happen.
And incest would obviously had been forgiven by god for about 500 years so earth can repopulate.
Here, you claim that evolution does not occur:
Originally posted by Chibi Boy
The earth used to be one large super continent, even science says that, so there wouldn't have been a Australian continent, they would have lived on that one Island. Polar bears are obviously bears which ended up stranded in the north pole and had to survive in it so they adapted(By the way, adaptation and evolution are 2 different things, adaptation takes a week and the creature doesn't turn into anything else, evolution however turns the specific polar bear into a completely different creature.)How do you think they made boats in the olden days? Using large plates of hard metal? No. They obviously had to enforce the sides of the boat to prevent leaking. As i said before, it was all planned when god told Noah, he was obviously told how to make it!
In case you have not figured it out yet, speciation is an evolutionary mechanism; if evolution does not occur, speciation does not occur.
Originally posted by Chibi Boy
There is way more species than this today, as I said before, breeding makes the animal kingdom grow(I didn't exactly say it like that)No 2. I probably shouldn't bother answering this but Noah wasn't all about pride, him or his family weren't retards cos they didn't want the human race to end. You, as a normal person from todays people, would think they're retards, the same way the people who died in the floods did when they thought it weren't gonna rain, they thought that it was retarded to do that. If someone and their sister or brother gave a damn about life and not about themselves or their pride, they'd probably have kids together too for the sake of mankind.
[list=1][*]As I stated previously, it is impossible for an entire species to descend from a breeding population of two.
[*]finti did not state that Noah and his family were mentally retarded but rather, that any offspring resulting from incest among he and his family members would be mentally retarded.[/list]
Regarding the issue of incest:
Originally posted by cking
Noah was the only righteous person of his time. He must have been a brave person of his time.
Either incest is wrong or it is not wrong. You tell me, how righteous is a man who has sexual relations with his own daughters?
Here's the low-down, evolution is turning something into something else over about 10000 years, breeding is just creating the mix of the two species, making it look like it's a completely different creature, the people who discovered most of the creatures today probably never took into account that it could just be a mixed breed of two others, or a breed mixed breed of 2 mixed breeds, which would give it completely different abilties. This couldn't happen to a monkey to make a human, because there is no creature which could give it our sort of hairless bodies or human like thoughts, we can't be an inter-breed.
There's no half-men half-monkeys in the world so evolution can't be real.
When Noah brought his FAMILY on the Ark he also brought his daughters/sons-in-law etc so their kids were allowed to marry the other daughter/sons-in-laws kids and have sex with them, which IS allowed and doesn't mentally injure the born children.
Noah was most likely not to have had sex with his daughters, he had no reason to. But he could have with his wife.
The Ark could have actually survived, if god gives you the instructions on how to make a boat out of only wood it will work, cos obviously god knows everything so making a boat would be easy.
Originally posted by Chibi Boy
Here's the low-down, evolution is turning something into something else over about 10000 years, breeding is just creating the mix of the two species, making it look like it's a completely different creature, the people who discovered most of the creatures today probably never took into account that it could just be a mixed breed of two others, or a breed mixed breed of 2 mixed breeds, which would give it completely different abilties. This couldn't happen to a monkey to make a human, because there is no creature which could give it our sort of hairless bodies or human like thoughts, we can't be an inter-breed.There's no half-men half-monkeys in the world so evolution can't be real.
When Noah brought his FAMILY on the Ark he also brought his daughters/sons-in-law etc so their kids were allowed to marry the other daughter/sons-in-laws kids and have sex with them, which IS allowed and doesn't mentally injure the born children.
Noah was most likely not to have had sex with his daughters, he had no reason to. But he could have with his wife.
The Ark could have actually survived, if god gives you the instructions on how to make a boat out of only wood it will work, cos obviously god knows everything so making a boat would be easy.
Things I've been trying to say...
There's no half-men half-monkeys in the world so evolution can't be real.Lions and Tigers are bout cat family yet they are different, smae with apes and humans both belong to the primate family yet different
The Ark could have actually survived, if god gives you the instructions on how to make a boat out of only wood it will work, cos obviously god knows everything so making a boat would be easy.sounds more like wishful thnking than anything else
When Noah brought his FAMILY on the Ark he also brought his daughters/sons-in-law etc so their kids were allowed to marry the other daughter/sons-in-laws kids and have sex with them, which IS allowed and doesn't mentally injure the born childrenthe kids would be cousin and that is too close for comfort, and what if all the were one gender
Originally posted by finti
Lions and Tigers are bout cat family yet they are different, smae with apes and humans both belong to the primate family yet differentsounds more like wishful thnking than anything else
the kids would be cousin and that is too close for comfort, and what if all the were one gender
1. Your point? How can they have evolved to be different if they lived close to each other in the wild? They're supposed to evolve to survive in the area they live in, yet they both live in the same areas and are different. They might both be cats, but that don't mean its evolution, its more likely to be adaptation to the slight differences in the areas of where they lived and probably took about 2 years, not 200,0000.
2. Ummm, he's god, if he's god he can do anything. He has even given me amazing abilities which very few posess. Just because god did it doesn't mean it isn't true, it infact makes it seem more true.
3. Were all the children boys or girls? No, because in the end they went to bed and produced more children. About 6 couples going to bed has a large chance of creating atleast one male or female, lol.
And finally, Too close for comfert? Why would that be? it was allowed by god.
Before you even ask, he gave me the ability to prove anyone wrong alot of times, maybe even until they see the truth. And many other abilities, i ain't gonna say them all.
Originally posted by debbiejo
Ewwwwww....me and by brother...... 😘Though I've always wondered shy science hasn't tried to duplicate the Ark by using the Biblical instructions......would be a great test!
That actually wasn't allowed, I remember it now, and anyway they'd only go to bed with their cousins.
Originally posted by Chibi Boy
Here's the low-down, evolution is turning something into something else over about 10000 years, breeding is just creating the mix of the two species, making it look like it's a completely different creature, the people who discovered most of the creatures today probably never took into account that it could just be a mixed breed of two others, or a breed mixed breed of 2 mixed breeds, which would give it completely different abilties. This couldn't happen to a monkey to make a human, because there is no creature which could give it our sort of hairless bodies or human like thoughts, we can't be an inter-breed.There's no half-men half-monkeys in the world so evolution can't be real.
When Noah brought his FAMILY on the Ark he also brought his daughters/sons-in-law etc so their kids were allowed to marry the other daughter/sons-in-laws kids and have sex with them, which IS allowed and doesn't mentally injure the born children.
Noah was most likely not to have had sex with his daughters, he had no reason to. But he could have with his wife.
The Ark could have actually survived, if god gives you the instructions on how to make a boat out of only wood it will work, cos obviously god knows everything so making a boat would be easy.
The phenomena you describe is speciation, not adaptation; and speciation is a mechanism of evolution.
Moreover, the only occupants of the ark were Noah, his wife, his three sons, and his three daughter-in-laws. It is impossible for the entire human race to descend from a breeding population of eight. Let us be realistic; any attempt to repopulate the world would not be limited to sexual relations between first cousins. Aunts and uncles would have to have sex with neices and nephews, brothers with sisters, and parents with children. By all means, explain to us why this incestuous arrangement is righteous. Apparently, God destroys the world by flood because its inhabitants are wicked but incest is A-Okay.
Your point? How can they have evolved to be different if they lived close to each other in the wild?do Lions and Leopards live close toghether in the wild? they are both part of the same family yet different in apperance
They might both be cats, but that don't mean its evolution, its more likely to be adaptation to the slight differences in the areas of where they lived and probably took about 2 years, not 200,0000.😂 😆 ok you are totally clueless about this field
And finally, Too close for comfert? Why would that be? it was allowed by god.your god can allow it all that god likes, it is nature that dispose of it. To much similare genes the chance of survival is slim, and this doesnt only goes for the human race it is the same for the animals, two of each aint enough to make the speices survive
Ummm, he's god, if he's god he can do anything. He has even given me amazing abilities which very few posess. Just because god did it doesn't mean it isn't true, it infact makes it seem more true.
Before you even ask, he gave me the ability to prove anyone wrong alot of times, maybe even until they see the truth. And many other abilities, i ain't gonna say them all.seems like this ability is failing you big time then
Originally posted by finti
do Lions and Leopards live close toghether in the wild? they are both part of the same family yet different in apperance😂 😆 ok you are totally clueless about this field
your god can allow it all that god likes, it is nature that dispose of it. To much similare genes the chance of survival is slim, and this doesnt only goes for the human race it is the same for the animals, two of each aint enough to make the speices survive
so if god can do anything why did he even bother with the flood, if god could do anything fixing this problem that allegedly led to this flood would be the least of what god could do.
seems like this ability is failing you big time then
1. I have might have different eyes to you, maybe even different skin colour, does that make you a completely different creature?
2. Completely clueless? The only reason i'm clueless is because i'm clueless why i should be.
3.& 4. Um, Who made nature? GOD. Who made genes? GOD. Who made LIFE? GOD, if god gave people feelings they'd choose what they do. What could he have done? What would you have done? Let the world be taken over by drug addicts and thugs? He loved us as a father and didn't want US the people of the future to live in unhappiness, so he let them drown. Maybe he could have gotten rid of them single handedly but that was obviously not his plan.
5. It still don't seem like it's failing to me. lol 😆
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The phenomena you describe is speciation, not adaptation; and speciation is a mechanism of evolution.Moreover, the only occupants of the ark were Noah, his wife, his three sons, and his three daughter-in-laws. It is impossible for the entire human race to descend from a breeding population of eight. Let us be realistic; any attempt to repopulate the world would not be limited to sexual relations between first cousins. Aunts and uncles would have to have sex with neices and nephews, brothers with sisters, and parents with children. By all means, explain to us why this incestuous arrangement is righteous. Apparently, God destroys the world by flood because its inhabitants are wicked but incest is A-Okay.
But the thing is, incest isn't A-Okay, and just the few that survived could have bred on, and on, what could stop them? Remember, even then people would have lived pretty long, as only about half of the layer above the earth had fell in the storms. Incest might be bad now, but at the beginning of time there was no reason for it to be bad atall, because then there was no mental deficiancies etc god probably prevented it.
I have might have different eyes to you, maybe even different skin colour, does that make you a completely different creature?no cause we`re both humans just like , still belong to the primates an animal order that includes monkeys, apes, lemurs.
Completely clueless? The only reason i'm clueless is because i'm clueless why i should be.answers like this its more likely to be adaptation to the slight differences in the areas of where they lived and probably took about 2 years, not 200,0000. . 2 years wont make a difference, it takes generation to make them adapt and change.
Um, Who made nature? GOD. Who made genes? GOD. Who made LIFE? GOD, if god gave people feelings they'd choose what they do. What could he have done? What would you have done? Let the world be taken over by drug addicts and thugs? He loved us as a father and didn't want US the people of the future to live in unhappiness, so he let them drown. Maybe he could have gotten rid of them single handedly but that was obviously not his planwell there we differ again I dont believe in any god so god made nada
It still don't seem like it's failing to me.you must be the only one to see it that way casue your so call ability to prove anyone wrong sure havent worked in here. Actually I find it laughable that any one can come with such a ridicoluse claim. Probably todays biggest BS thing in all the forums combined
It's still working cos i can still make sense of everything you just said, and thats my point, i can prove nearly anything you throw at me, unlike you who just moves on to a smaller detail that you find.
"well there we differ again I dont believe in any god so god made nada"
Thats just you though isn't it, you asked why he didn't just stop them without the flood but I'm telling you why, so it's my view what we're seeing from here and I just explained it to you from the most important view which is mine because you asked me etc.
And it's still clear as adaptation made Tigers and lions different because adaptation means the world wasn't made billions of years ago.