The bible says earth is only 7000 yerars old science says it is 5,000,000,000 Y.o

sarcastic of course. I watched a king of the hill episode that involved about people came from monkeys. very funny episode.

No god=No soul=No feelings=No meaning/I am the only one who matters

so you think your God? then tell me how old I am?

and you know what that creates? rascism, sexism, ignorance, and even the thought of only one person mattering or no meaning makes you have no feelings for others

wrong and you still didn't answer my question.

I don't think i am god, i am saying that according to the rules of there being no god, I see the world from my eyes and I'm the only one that can see atall. Do you get it? people used to think Black people had no feelings, we don't think like that anymore. We know they do.

I am saying that no god means selfishness and self pride, I am saying that only i can see life from my eyes and only you can see life from yours so we don't know if we both have feelings or not. From your position, i might not exist.

we Christians look beyond the world and see and know things that has happened and will happen. we see things from a different perspective than unchristian.

Exactly my point. Finti doesn't beleive in no god, so according to him it's ok to steal, fight, kill and all the evil things in the world.

No God=No soul(from their view, except the person thinking it)=No feelings=No point to life

But we Christians know there is one.

So for us it's, God=Soul=Feelings=Point to life

Has anyone got anything to say about that?

No? Then i rest my case. This Topic has been officially figured out.

i can prove nearly anything you throw at me

What's the meaning of the universe? What's the meaning of LIFE? Why does the universe exist if there was nothing before?

finti is right, we did come from monkey, it isn't right to make fun of our relatives.

And does your life matter from my position? Cos according to the non existence of God, my life is my life, thats it! I can't see life in your shoes, as far as i could be concerned you don't even exist.

Exactly my point. Finti doesn't beleive in no god, so according to him it's ok to steal, fight, kill and all the evil things in the world.

No God=No soul(from their view, except the person thinking it)=No feelings=No point to life
But we Christians know there is one

Originally posted by Chibi Boy
But the thing is, incest isn't A-Okay, and just the few that survived could have bred on, and on, what could stop them? Remember, even then people would have lived pretty long, as only about half of the layer above the earth had fell in the storms. Incest might be bad now, but at the beginning of time there was no reason for it to be bad atall, because then there was no mental deficiancies etc god probably prevented it.

How many times must it be explained to you that it is impossible for the entire human race to descend from a breeding population of eight individuals?

Half of the DNA of an individual comes from his father, the other half of his DNA comes from his mother. This means that brothers and sisters are genetically more closely related to one another than they are two their own parents. When relatives breed with one another, their DNA is too similair to combine properly, resulting in genetic abnormalities and mental retardation. A breeding population of eight individuals could only successfully produce a couple of generations of viable offspring, the rest would be sterile.

Furthermore, incest is either wrong or it is not wrong; it is not arbitrary to the will of God. "Incest might be bad now, but at the beginning of time there was no reason for it to be bad atall..." Are you serious? If that is the case, what makes incest wrong now?

not if god is behind it.

What's the meaning of the universe? What's the meaning of LIFE? Why does the universe exist if there was nothing before?

I dont see there as being an inherent necessity for the universe having a meaning or life for that matter. Though I logically refute any belief that the universe began uncaused from nothing.

Originally posted by finti

so if god can do anything why did he even bother with the flood, if god could do anything fixing this problem that allegedly led to this flood would be the least of what god could do.
seems like this ability is failing you big time then

You're right.....he could of just blinked his eyes and zap them right out of reality........If he was kinder, he could of just turned them into plants.

Originally posted by finti
you havent proven a damn thing yet but what the hell lets test this selfproclaimed ability of yours.....prove god existence and I mean undispuitable proofs, prove the ark and again undispuitable proof. Prove the divinity of Jesus, prove why christianity is right and other religon is wrong. Prove that you can really prove anyone wrong and I mean really prove it just dont come with this "it is working cause" crap.

who said the universe and life has a meaning, and the last part is the million dollar question, the answer is no one knows.....a lot of people think they know it and believe they know it...........not so no one knows.

did I say we came from the monkeys or did I say we were primates an animal order that includes both humans and monkeys???

so if you cant see life from my perspective how the hell can you prove me wrong?.

you really think that those who believe in god are the only one with a moral standard, where do you get this nonsense from

1. Let's put this simple, i have given you answers to all your questions which you happen to have found the tiny bits in which i STILL seem to be answering. So If it's true I have already proven it to you.

2."who said the universe and life has a meaning, and the last part is the million dollar question, the answer is no one knows.....a lot of people think they know it and believe they know it...........not so no one knows."
Then why is the universe THERE? You see this is where what i said comes along, no meaning to the universe= no meaning to life. How do you know life is there either?

The universe is where we live, so it's part of our life. Which is our soul. But i live in this universe too so you're saying my life doesn't matter either, or noone elses.

Well guess what, my life exists, I can see through my eyes and I'll tell you that. But how do you know I'm being serious? I could be lying, but because of what people have taught, you believe me.

3. Yes, but how do I/you know that each other exist? No meaning to the universe=No life. In other words because nobody is there for a reason, nobody needs to live so it don't matter if I go and murder someone, I'll get no punishment for it when i die. I can see from your perspective in that way, but how'd i know anyone else has real feelings or purpose but I? Infact that is what i was just doing when I said about murdering. See the link?

4. Let's just say that if we were related to monkeys in anyway they'd have more in common with us than the same amount of fingers or shape of hands.

And anyway, it's my turn to ask questions, Why do all humans(except twins) have different faces unlike monkeys who all look the same? And what makes you think murdering is wrong except rules? How'd u know rules are the real definition of being 'good'?

Why do we have so many differences to our supposed cousins compared to the differences between Bears and Polar Bears?

A Typical Monkey:
Hair all over body
most have long tails
Usually walk on all fours
All the same species of monkey look the same
Usually pretty small
Different shaped heads to humans
Not very smart

Human:
Hairless except on head and slowly grows in other areas(Only a bit though)
The faces look different(different skin colour, hair colour, eye colour and other things)
Very Intellegent

And another thing, why aren't the people who live in the forests with monkeys actually monkeys? They must have lived there for their whole lives AND their ancestors must have too, so why aren't they monkeys instead of humans?