spiderman beat an inexperienced villain who had a venom symbiote...and absolutely NO fighting ability whatsoever...common you think someon like that could have beaten the thing?...(and again where was his strength determined?)
and yes spiderman does get enraged when fighting venom and carnage..and still gets his but kicked all over the place...
I wouldnt say a thunderclap is effective at 60 ft away, hell it shouldnt be all that effective at 30 ft away. Sound is not a solid thing, and it loses power quickly in physics. Sound can keep a strong current of echoes to about 20 ft (I think) in a normal room.
The The thing has been held down by webbing before, and blinded by it. Who says that when Spidey wraps him up, he wont take thing for a joyride into several buildings, or dunk him in water till he loses consiousness.
Now The thing could very well keep Spidey at a distance, however, thats how Spidey's dodging works even better. It give him more time to dodge.
Bottom line, If Thing can close the gap between Spidey and him, then Spidey is finished.
If the Thing cant do that, then he stands a very good chance at losing the fight.
Not as much as you'd suspect regardless Eddie wasn't the best fighter either, the Symbiote basically autopiloted for him, and was a larger threat, because spiderman was saving civilians, a lot.
He tossed a semi really far, and I'm sure thats incredible strength, besides Venom's way more versatile than thing on his best day, and makes him look like a one trick pony, things great but his fighting is limited greatly, and Spiderman can take care of himself fine, i would say a draw and take points based on emotion and style.
Originally posted by jinzin
spiderman beat an inexperienced villain who had a venom symbiote...and absolutely NO fighting ability whatsoever...common you think someon like that could have beaten the thing?...(and again where was his strength determined?)and yes spiderman does get enraged when fighting venom and carnage..and still gets his but kicked all over the place...
Now that depends on which Spidey your talking about, if your talking about experienced 30-ish spidey then your wrong.
If your talking about inexperienced teen spidey, then your right.
Originally posted by Zenoside
I wouldnt say a thunderclap is effective at 60 ft away, hell it shouldnt be all that effective at 30 ft away. Sound is not a solid thing, and it loses power quickly in physics. Sound can keep a strong current of echoes to about 20 ft (I think) in a normal room.The The thing has been held down by webbing before, and blinded by it. Who says that when Spidey wraps him up, he wont take thing for a joyride into several buildings, or dunk him in water till he loses consiousness.
Now The thing could very well keep Spidey at a distance, however, thats how Spidey's dodging works even better. It give him more time to dodge.
Bottom line, If Thing can close the gap between Spidey and him, then Spidey is finished.
If the Thing cant do that, then he stands a very good chance at losing the fight.
great post, and what up.
the sonic clap isn't great at extreme up close, and not too far away.
How will spidey get far away. The stronger the muscles in a body the faster it moves, spidey's light body and ability to leg press at least 30000 lbs, would enable him to easily jump a hundred feet, adn run well over 50 miles an hour, and his greater metabolism for that matter.
Originally posted by Zenoside
Now that depends on which Spidey your talking about, if your talking about experienced 30-ish spidey then your wrong.If your talking about inexperienced teen spidey, then your right.
Spiderman was a grown man in his years,and attended a high school reunion when that happened. I'm looking at it right now.
The guy says" I don't know what i was thinking, stop hitting me. He's too experienced at this."
A beserk adult parker, would give him a great fight easily stick it too him
Thing is great but has lost some of his sting, and Is only class 100, Venom flung a semi like 39-45 yards, thats close to that strength right there.
Originally posted by Zenoside
Now that depends on which Spidey your talking about, if your talking about experienced 30-ish spidey then your wrong.If your talking about inexperienced teen spidey, then your right.
about beating venom and carnage? like hell!
venom and carnage have handed spiderman his ass in almost every physical confrontation they've ever had....spiderman wins with help, sonics, fire, help...and more help....1 on 1 spidey gets his butt kicked by either of these two hands down....spiderman never fought either of them when he wasn't experienced....🙄
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Spiderman was a grown man in his years,and attended a high school reunion when that happened. I'm looking at it right now.The guy says" I don't know what i was thinking, stop hitting me. He's too experienced at this."
A beserk adult parker, would give him a great fight easily stick it too him
Thing is great but has lost some of his sting, and Is only class 100, Venom flung a semi like 39-45 yards, thats close to that strength right there.
so his strength level is based off your interpretation of feats....yet in a thread like spidey vs. wolvie...feats are worthless...you're so ridiculoously contradictive...
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Not as much as you'd suspect regardless Eddie wasn't the best fighter either, the Symbiote basically autopiloted for him, and was a larger threat, because spiderman was saving civilians, a lot.He tossed a semi really far, and I'm sure thats incredible strength, besides Venom's way more versatile than thing on his best day, and makes him look like a one trick pony, things great but his fighting is limited greatly, and Spiderman can take care of himself fine, i would say a draw and take points based on emotion and style.
you're missing the point...eddie was an olympic level athlete who had loads of experience....TONS against spidey and almost ever other popular hero in the early 90's...he had farrrrr superior fighting ability than the mob boss' son....and had a lot more experience using the symbiote he was extremely cunning in how to use it...the mob bosses son obviously was not...
Originally posted by jinzin
so his strength level is based off your interpretation of feats....yet in a thread like spidey vs. wolvie...feats are worthless...you're so ridiculoously contradictive...
no I already said when it was mentioned, 90% of your posts come from criticizing the source itself, hypocrite.
Originally posted by jinzin
about beating venom and carnage? like hell!venom and carnage have handed spiderman his ass in almost every physical confrontation they've ever had....spiderman wins with help, sonics, fire, help...and more help....1 on 1 spidey gets his butt kicked by either of these two hands down....spiderman never fought either of them when he wasn't experienced....🙄
However, every battle Spidey won agianst Venom and Carnage, he took a pretty good beating aswell.
But he still WON, thats the point aint it?
Originally posted by jinzin
about beating venom and carnage? like hell!venom and carnage have handed spiderman his ass in almost every physical confrontation they've ever had....spiderman wins with help, sonics, fire, help...and more help....1 on 1 spidey gets his butt kicked by either of these two hands down....spiderman never fought either of them when he wasn't experienced....🙄
he hasn't eh?? I'm going to let you think that one over.
carnage can but venom can be debatable, but its funny how wolverine can beat him easily eh/
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
no I already said when it was mentioned, 90% of your posts come from criticizing the source itself, hypocrite.
did you? when was it mentioned? I missed it....and how am I a hipocrite?.....I use comics as reference and stick to them...you're the one who jump around feats, stats, and speculation as it suits you...not me...
Originally posted by Zenoside
Im sorry, but your views seem a little baised to me.
I've read plenty of comics where Venom and Carnage aboslutely whoop Spidey.However, every battle Spidey won agianst Venom and Carnage, he took a pretty good beating aswell.
But he still WON, thats the point aint it?
Get used to those biased views of his, he thrives off them.
Originally posted by Zenoside
Im sorry, but your views seem a little baised to me.
I've read plenty of comics where Venom and Carnage aboslutely whoop Spidey.However, every battle Spidey won agianst Venom and Carnage, he took a pretty good beating aswell.
But he still WON, thats the point aint it?
no the point is that spidey can't beat wither of these guys BY HIMSELF...without outside circumstances interfering and he admitted that when he fought venom on the island...
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I don't even want to hear about wolverine's feats, they contradict themselves on every level, there's a fresh thread on that, or did you happen to "glance over it"
I just didn't care to read that thread...there's far too much going on there to explain....and of course you don't want to hear about his feats..feats are only useable when they suit your purposes...🙄