Originally posted by jinzin
what I'm saying is simple..spiderman can't beat them without outside circumstances..(using just his powers) he can't do it...period...he even admitted to it when he fought venom on the island....
Im guessing this is what you meant.
Last time you posted you said "outside circumstances interfering".
I couldnt see how fire or sonics would interfere in the fight at all. On this I agree with you.
Originally posted by jinzin
if outside circumstances are getting in the way...that's an interference...whether it's a weapon that spiderman doesn't normally use..or another superhero come to his rescue...semantics aside I'm glad to know you understand what I mean know..
I wouldnt call something Spidey uses as a catalyst interfering. But thats just my definition of the word.
Little details assuredly.
Originally posted by jinzin
incase you hadn't noticed I actually agree with every point you made here...well things does have fighting ability over spidey but other than that you're dead on..
That's probably another point we'll disagree on. I believe Spidey's fighting ability is greater than Thing's. Other than punching really hard I haven't seen Thing display any type of fighting skill or discipline. Yes, he hangs with the Hulk, but Hulk's not really a fighting genius. Whereas Spidey's skill is almost like a martial art.
Originally posted by K Von Doom
That's probably another point we'll disagree on. I believe Spidey's fighting ability is greater than Thing's. Other than punching really hard I haven't seen Thing display any type of fighting skill or discipline. Yes, he hangs with the Hulk, but Hulk's not really a fighting genius. Whereas Spidey's skill is almost like a martial art.
Originally posted by jinzin
batman has a suit that enables him to take superhuman punishment..that has nothing to do with his feats....wolverine enhanced by a skeleton or not is still superhuman in some aspects...unless we want to disregard spiderman as a superhuman because he got bid by a spider...🙄
Nope not quite accurate, his suit fares better against piercing weapons, plate armor is best for blunt proficiency, and it wouldn't holp up to supes anyway, duh 🙂
Originally posted by K Von Doom
Comparing Venom to Thing is a little deceptive. I think the original comparison was made because of the strength similarity, however Spidey vs Venom is completely different to Spidey vs Thing. Venom and Carnage get the best of Spidey because all their abilities are the same, but the symbiotes are amped-up a bit more. Spidey can't win a direct-head-on confrontation with either of them without the help of sonics or fire because they're as fast and stronger than him. Now, with Thing it's completely different because the only advantage Thing has over Spiderman is strength, that's it. Thing isn't faster than Spidey, he doesn't have webbing, he doesn't cancel out his spider-sense and he isn't as agile as Spiderman.
Makes excellent sense, Venom is a greater threat than thing, and Spidey is all too familiar with stronger opponents.
great post. 😮💨
Originally posted by jinzin
if outside circumstances are getting in the way...that's an interference...whether it's a weapon that spiderman doesn't normally use..or another superhero come to his rescue...semantics aside I'm glad to know you understand what I mean know..
Originally posted by K Von Doom
That's probably another point we'll disagree on. I believe Spidey's fighting ability is greater than Thing's. Other than punching really hard I haven't seen Thing display any type of fighting skill or discipline. Yes, he hangs with the Hulk, but Hulk's not really a fighting genius. Whereas Spidey's skill is almost like a martial art.
bans proven his fighting skills on multiple occasions..but the dealer sealer is when he and logan used to do covert opperation pre-thing days...he displayed great amounts of fighting ability...
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Nope not quite accurate, his suit fares better against piercing weapons, plate armor is best for blunt proficiency, and it wouldn't holp up to supes anyway, duh 🙂
how is that inaccurate? are superman punches and captain marvel lightning bolts not super human now? 😕
Originally posted by jinzin
how is that inaccurate? are superman punches and captain marvel lightning bolts not super human now? 😕
No you missed my point, batman spars with wonder woman who is obviously superhuman, but he isn't classified as superhuman, though he can best many.
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Batman's armore won't be doing very much.