David Icke

Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
Bullshit? Would you like the address of where I worked so you can google it? 3 blocks away you imbecile. The heat from the jet fuel burned off all the fire protection and melted the support beams. The weakened supports caused the top of the South Tower to collapse into itself. The ensuing vibration caused the North Tower to collapse. But then again you, in England, know so much more than firefighters who were on the scene. You are definitely a real piece of shit.

there are lots of engineers who have come forward claiming the heat woudnt of melted the steel...there have been dozens of firefighters who claim explosives were going off in the towers and in fact it was a control demoliton
the madrid buliding in spain was on fire for days and days and never collapsed...the twin towers are on fire for 1 hour and it collapses...BULLSHIT!
you are a ignorant pile of shit

Originally posted by KharmaDog
You send me to "Slave Revolt Blog" and expect me to accept that as fact? Instead of reading other's (flawed) research, perhaps you can read facts and make up your own mind.

Still Looking for the "conlusive" evidence.

Here's my take on 9/11:

Bin Laden wanted to mucj with the states so he put his plan in action. He did a multiple pronged attacked fisuring something would get through.

Georgie and the boys knew something was up, so they decided to sit back on it figuring a little something happens, and then they can justify putting a pipeline through afghanistan and kick the shit out of sadam.

9/11 - both Osama and George watch events unfold. Osama thinks, "Holy shit! I didn't think it would work that well!". Georgie and his boys think, "Holy shit, I didn't think it's be that big!"

To save any more destruction the air force shoots down the plane in Penn.

so in a nutshell

Did George plan these attacks? - no, but he was complicit in his inactivity (if you want to call that a conspiracy fine, label it so)

Was Osama and al queda responsible? - yep, but I don't think they were expecting such massive results

Did planes knock down the towers? - yes, not demolitions but planes, you can thank the guys who designed them for falling as they did.

Did the plane crash in Penn.? - No, I believe it was shot down. Usually there are parts bigger than a telephone book left of a plane when it just crashes. Also there was an explosion on the plane, an engine dropped off the wing 4 kms before it collapsed and the plane inverted before impact.

That's my opinion, however we are talking about Icke here (heck I'll even throw you a bone and let you talk about Jones) and their ridiculous theories and how people seem to eat them up.

You have failed to prove anything through logical explanation.

u watched those videos yet?

Originally posted by Deano
there are lots of engineers who have come forward claiming the heat woudnt of melted the steel...there have been dozens of firefighters who claim explosives were going off in the towers and in fact it was a control demoliton
the madrid buliding in spain was on fire for days and days and never collapsed...the twin towers are on fire for 1 hour and it collapses...BULLSHIT!
you are a ignorant pile of shit

I have yet to see such testomony from any engineers worth a pinch of crap.

Firefighters claimed that explosions were happenening around them, they do not have the expertise to claim whether they were controlled demolitons or not because they are not demolition experts, but firemen. Please post some of the names of the firefighters and their statements as to their belief it was a controlled demolition.

The building in madrid was not fueled with tonnes of jet fuel. It was also not the same structural marvel that the towers were.

You are indeed ignorant and your arguments hollow, watch the name calling.

Yes I have seen the videos. I think they are pathetic and not journalism but self serving propaganda.

when thousands of tons of steel suddenly buckle and collapse....it makes a sound SLIGHTLY louder than a whisper i would think.

when will this assclown theory die?

Originally posted by Deano
there are lots of engineers who have come forward claiming the heat woudnt of melted the steel...there have been dozens of firefighters who claim explosives were going off in the towers and in fact it was a control demoliton
the madrid buliding in spain was on fire for days and days and never collapsed...the twin towers are on fire for 1 hour and it collapses...BULLSHIT!
you are a ignorant pile of shit

And so is the FDNY, the Mayor's Office, and everybody else who actually watched this happen live and in person apparently. You say firefighters claim it was a controlled demolition? I want their names and house numbers. I'll go personally to their firehouses and ask them. Of course you won't come up with that information, because it's bullshit. Lots of engineers, you say? Yes, I saw those interviews, and not one of them were involved in the design of the buildings. Everyone of the engineers who were involved in the design of the Towers say it was build to withstand a small plane crash, not a jumbo jet. More ignorant excrement.

The Madrid building also was not hit with a 747 carrying enough fuel for a cross country flight, moron. The Madrid building was not built like the World Trade Center, *******. Tell me, if the heat couldn't have melted the steel, why were trucks carrying away melted steel beams during the cleanup. Yes, they drove right past my office building on their way to the Staten Island Dump.

I'm an ignorant pile of shit who is more informed about the situation than you are, dipshit.

From the perspective of someone who has researched the global conspiracy for two years, the people in this thread besides Deano, make me absolutely sick with their ignorance, nievity and all-round cluelessness.

This 9/11 stuff is starting to come out mainstream and its gaining momenton. It's not gonna be long untill most people beleive the truth about who did 9/11 just like with the US Navy sinking their best battleship - the Maine in 1898 to gain the excuse needed to **** up the Spanish in South America and just like Roosvelt getting Japan to attack Pearl harbour to gain the excuse needed for the US to enter WW2 and just like Hitler fire bombing his own Reichstag and blaming it on the Communists to get into office.

All those disgusting facts are now little-known facts amoung a large portion of the population and 9/11 is gonna be up there with them soon, too.

yawn

Novusordo, you believe that Lizard people rule the world. Sorry, but I can't help but feel compelled to ignore everything that you say based on that fact alone.

yeah, im not sure if its possible for you to damage your own credibility any further....sorry dude

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Novusordo, you believe that Lizard people rule the world. Sorry, but I can't help but feel compelled to ignore everything that you say based on that fact alone.

Oh no it cant be true can it since the people in power today cant be geneticaly traced directly back to the kings of Babylon and Sumer which were, as countless historical acient texts of the period clearly state, the kings of babylon were created by the Gods, the "watchers" or Annunaki as they were called.

And its also absolutely impossible for the process of an enitity to take posession of oneself when it happens to hundreds of people every year and requires an exism from a preist.

And its also impossible for the process of shapeshifting from one form to another to happen when the cutting edge of science, Quantum Physics, says it can.

Oh and not to forget that the royal families of Europe like the Windsors are absolutely obsessed with dragons and other reptilian-like creatures as most of the royal regalia has some sort of Babylonian symbol of Nimrod or Tammuz or of a reptilian like dragon figure.

You see, its not so ridiculous once you know how possible it all is, prick.

Originally posted by Novusordo
You see, its not so ridiculous once you know how possible it all is, prick.

you make yourself look like a whiney child throwing a tantrum when you end your statement like that.

Originally posted by PVS
when thousands of tons of steel suddenly buckle and collapse....it makes a sound SLIGHTLY louder than a whisper i would think.

when will this assclown theory die?

when i die...

Originally posted by PVS
you make yourself look like a whiney child throwing a tantrum when you end your statement like that.

what he sez has a point though(apart from the last sentence)

Which is clearly what he is. Posting beliefs like that makes one question the intelligence of the whole human race, that such beliefs could be spawned. No matter what the dogmatic and desperate claims of this tiny minority, nothing they say even comes close to achieving one tiny iota of intellectual rigour, or scientific/historical evidence., Yet they cling to it, desperate to believe in their own superioirty that they somehow know a 'truth' that the rest of the world does not.

And WHEN the rest of the world does not, all they can do is name call and whine, and believe that everyone else is somehow ignorant and/or brainwashed, and for some reason I cannot define, cannot simply come to the obvious conclusion that the reason no-one else believes it is because it is all such clear and utter bollocks.

Originally posted by Deano
what he sez has a point though(apart from the last sentence)

but that last sentence proves that he has no interest in reaching anyone.
i thought the purpose of a debate was to try and get others to see things the way you do. you cant very well do that by calling them a 'prick'. would you read a word i had to say if i called you a prick? i doubt it 😬

he just squashed his own arguement with one word.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
...and for some reason I cannot define, cannot simply come to the obvious conclusion that the reason no-one else believes it is because it is all such clear and utter bollocks.

the reason? thats simple: too much lsd

How about all of you ridiculous fools that mindlessly dismiss something you know absolute **** all about, read about it and THEN form a decision 🙄

David Icke's "The Biggest Secret" (10.5MB)

It exposes everything from the origins of humanity and the origins of the reptilian/human hyrbud bloodlines that moved out of Babylon to become to Royal bloodlines of Europe and then went on to rule the world.

It also exposes the global conspiracy today and the past 200 years.

Also the secret societies and the individuals who have played major parts along with a ton of other stuff.

Its all backed up with sources after each chapter. This stuff aint bullshit, its whats really going on and will continue to go on as long as idiots like you lot reamin as ignorant and nieve as you have been.

Originally posted by Novusordo
How about all of you ridiculous fools...

thats the point where i stopped reading, as im sure is the case with most everyone else. that is your folly....along with believing in overlord lizardmen....

Originally posted by Novusordo
Oh no it cant be true can it since the people in power today cant be geneticaly traced directly back to the kings of Babylon and Sumer which were

I doubt the validity of the research done. These geneology charts were made by people in order to support ridiculous theories.

Originally posted by Novusordo
countless historical acient texts of the period clearly state, the kings of babylon were created by the Gods, the "watchers" or Annunaki as they were called.

THEN IT MUST BE TRUE!!!! Historical texts are historical texts. Not Historically accurate texts. Seee the difference one word can make?

Originally posted by Novusordo
And its also absolutely impossible for the process of an enitity to take posession of oneself when it happens to hundreds of people every year and requires an exism from a preist.

Yes, I believe that demonic possession is not real. You use preists performing exorcism to support your arguement yet in other posts you state that organized religions are a sham. Make up your mind please.

Originally posted by Novusordo
And its also impossible for the process of shapeshifting from one form to another to happen when the cutting edge of science, Quantum Physics, says it can.

PLease show me the research where credible science has stated that shapeshifting is possible. With every arguement you tend to seem a bit more nuttier.

Originally posted by Novusordo
Oh and not to forget that the royal families of Europe like the Windsors are absolutely obsessed with dragons and other reptilian-like creatures as most of the royal regalia has some sort of Babylonian symbol of Nimrod or Tammuz or of a reptilian like dragon figure.

Oh, no, can't forget that. Actually, I might. Once again, can I have the research that will show me that the Windsors are obsessed with dragons and other reptillian creatures please?

Originally posted by Novusordo
You see, its not so ridiculous once you know how possible it all is, prick.

You have yet to make a statement that does not appear ridiculous to even the remotely educated or partially sane. One more instance of name calling and you will be reported.

It's all rubbish. I've seen this stuff, I have seen how hastily and stupidly it has been put together, the efforts of people with the mentality of an attention seeking child, making conspiracies out of thin air and not paying any attention to decent research or even simple causality and logic in arguments. I thought Holy Blood + Holy Grail was bad, but this kind of stuff really does make me question my faith in humanity.

Everything put forward, if it stands at all, which it barely does at most, can be demoilished by any reasonably competent teenager who checks these things out. To enter them as serious argument is insulting to all.