Sidious is brilliant but he's also a coward and not that powerful, what you don't understand about revan is that he was never really sith, he didn't give a rats ass about the sith goals, the only reason he turned to the darkside is because it offered more power to him and the star forge so he could use it to destroy the sith, he became darth revan so he could unite the republic against the sith and defeat their old empire on the fringes of space, not to listen to it's demands, the only one who obeyed the siths goals were those who actually fell to the darkside, Revan much like anakin wanted to use the darkside for good actually so he was no sith and he never tried to accomplish their goals because he only cared about his own agenda, everything else could go to hell he actually just wanted to defend the republic.
someone said that " how many jedi did sidiuos lure to the dark side"( yes you fishy). Sidiuos didn't want quantity. he wanted qaulity. thats why he only lured doku and anackin. and how can't you say that he didn't beat yoda. omg. yoda himself said it. watch the movie. i watched it 5 times. ( i own pirated dvd). if yoda put a tatto on himself saying he lost to sidious maybe then you will bieleve him.
Originally posted by Clawed The Bum
someone said that " how many jedi did sidiuos lure to the dark side"( yes you fishy). Sidiuos didn't want quantity. he wanted qaulity. thats why he only lured doku and anackin. and how can't you say that he didn't beat yoda. omg. yoda himself said it. watch the movie. i watched it 5 times. ( i own pirated dvd). if yoda put a tatto on himself saying he lost to sidious maybe then you will bieleve him.
First, you just admitted to a crime. Second, that was not a straight duel. That was a "I throw things at him so I can run away" pansy move by Sidious.
Originally posted by Clawed The Bum
someone said that " how many jedi did sidiuos lure to the dark side"( yes you fishy). Sidiuos didn't want quantity. he wanted qaulity. thats why he only lured doku and anackin. and how can't you say that he didn't beat yoda. omg. yoda himself said it. watch the movie. i watched it 5 times. ( i own pirated dvd). if yoda put a tatto on himself saying he lost to sidious maybe then you will bieleve him.
Quality?
Would you consider 5 Jedi Masters Quality, would you consider Malak quality? Come on Revan had plenty of powerful Jedi working with him. I wouldn't worry about that to much.
Anyways, Yoda never says he lost, he says he has failed... Big difference and he has failed I won't argue with you there. He didn't win I won't argue with you there either, but I can't really he has been defeated by Sidious.
He didn't win...
But did he lose? Well in the technical sence of the word yes... If you really look at it however, No. Yoda ran away because he knew that he could not defeat Sidious when help would arrive and he knew they were coming. Yoda had no choice but to run, he would have stayed longer if Clones would not have arrived.
He still managed to block Sidious his best and throw it back in his face. Why would he run from Sidious if he could do that? Why unless he of course he knew he could no longer win because Sidious had aids.
Of course Sidious outstripped Revan and all the other Sith leaders. He was able to twist Anakin's mind in almost no-time flat. OF course, Anakin had no brain, because who in real life would sacrifice everything including the world just to save 1 person you lvoe. But anyways, Sidious was so powerful, considering he beat Yoda (not saying Yoda is that good) and got every Jedi Killed. He got rebublic Troops to actually kill Jedi, which makes him pretty high at the top already
when yoda met with sidiuos what were their goals? yoda : kills sidiuos
Sidiuos : hold him out till clones arrive. so who accieved their goal and who didn't? i mean if sidiuos went one better and killed yoda that would be great but that wasn't his goal. sidiuos had more power. he didnt want to lose it. he didn't have to get any more. yoda, on the other hand. had no power. he tried to gain some. and he lost
Originally posted by Clawed The Bum
when yoda met with sidiuos what were their goals? yoda : kills sidiuos
Sidiuos : hold him out till clones arrive. so who accieved their goal and who didn't? i mean if sidiuos went one better and killed yoda that would be great but that wasn't his goal. sidiuos had more power. he didnt want to lose it. he didn't have to get any more. yoda, on the other hand. had no power. he tried to gain some. and he lost
Ohh no Sidious wanted to kill Yoda. Its far more likely that Yoda wanted to capture Sidious then Sidious just wanting to scare Yoda away. I doubt both of them actually. Both of them wanted the other dead.