Batman vs...

Originally posted by 8bitChris
No one said Batman knowing all the fighters was part of the terms and since they are all from a different plane of existence, Batman probably doesn't know them. He doesn't have files on them or their weaknesses.

Batman got bested by a ton of lamos without powers. We can go around and round about that. Wolverine would still eat Batman alive with his claws.

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Acid wont get through shield. Cap. A knows enough about tear gas to avoid it. And I don't think anybody gets Captain America's shield unless he wants them to. I'm still going with Cap because of the endurance.

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Yeah but giving DD only 12 seconds is still ridiculous.

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Gambit is cocky, but that doesn't mean he runs around underestimating everyone. Gambit is a devastating fighter in his own right and remarkably good with the use of his powers. Gambit takes it.

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Predicting where someone running really fast is going to end up is a lot different from predicting a random teleportation pattern. I'm sorry, you can't justify Batman predicting where Nightcrawler is going to be with any arguement. Unless he had some sort of machine that monitors Kurt's movements in the dimension he goes to when he teleports; but i'm fairly positive Batman doesn't carry one of those around in his utility belt.

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Yeah I saw the grenade part, and I thought answering it would be ridiculous. Batmobile is still trashed and Blob is just standing in the same place he always has been. If Colossus can't move the Blob then the Batmobile can't. [/B]

ppl underestimate bats alot.

i think wolvie may hit bats once, and it wont be a fatal wound. wolverine does not have bats speed. wolvie is a brawler with ninjitsu knowlegde and a 300 lb skeleton. bats martial arts finesse is much better than wolvies, and hes by far more agile. wolvie doesnt even bother to dodge anymore. and that will be his down fall. esp when bats can kit ya and kill all the nerves in th region that he touches. re: dark knight returns.

and i said taht dd knocked out blob by dropping a bell on him. bats doesnt have to move him. just give him damage through one of his orifaces. if dd can beat blob, bats can.

Originally posted by MrHeavySilence
Why did you have to say that?

Daredevil - Of course Batman always has those sonic weapons but even in the case of a fight, Bruce has all the advantages...even was trained to fight with heightening senses so he's definitely got the win.

Wolverine - Batman has more perseverance, wits, and determination but he can't take on Wolverine in a confined battle. He'd distract with some theatricalities, run off to research and develop a plan, then come back to finish Logan. Batman would use smell inducing weapons combined with Logan's heightened nostrils to beat him.

Captain America - Blow for blow Captain is a little stronger because of the enhancement, but Batman's array of gadgets and ingenious tactics will give him a victory over Cap'n. Plus Bats knows a little thing about the metaphysics of a veteran marksman and is also familiar in boomerang type weapons, so he is more than enough of a match for Captain America.

Nightwing - Batman is a better Batman.

Gambit - Gambit is nothing. Out of the X-Men roster he can only beat the "toned down" mutants such as current Jubilee. Just like Batman, Gambit isn't exactly a team player..but he doesn't have SMARTS either. Nor do his explosives particularly do him justice against anybody he's faced. Batman takes the staff away and wins.

Nightcrawler - I think this could go either way since Batman is a master marksman. He might be able to predict where Nightcrawler will teleport with the use of mirrors and tricks like that. Wherever Nightcrawler drops him, there will be enough time for a Batarang to kill Kurt so I think both could win.

Blob - Ok. Comon guys..Blob is a complete retard and is on the same level as Grodd. I've seen the most retarded comics where Blob gets so mad that he breaks pillars and ends up caving himself in debris of concrete. There is no way in hell Batman would lose to such an idiot.

[QUOTE=4274419]Originally posted by 8bitChris
No one said Batman knowing all the fighters was part of the terms and since they are all from a different plane of existence, Batman probably doesn't know them. He doesn't have files on them or their weaknesses.

Okay, that means that none of the other guys know about Batman's projectiles, tactics, baiting skills, analyzing skills, and gadgets.

Daredevil - Even without those sonic weapons, he'll still take out Dare Devil. Heightened senses vs Trained to use heightened senses, gadgets, more physical training etc.

Wolverine - If it isn't overexposing Wolverine's heightened senses, he'll still figure it out. Its Batman. In a one on one fight, most superheroes aren't likely to pull off what they "should" do, rather than what they normally do. And what Batman normally does is, do what others normally can't figure out. Wolverine has many ways of being exploited. A few grenades will slow him down while Batman knocks him out with electric brass knuckles.

Captain America - Stated earlier.

Nightwing - They know each other. Batman wins.

Gambit - 52 Cards aren't going to compensate for Batman's intelligence. By the third or fourth time he throws them, Batman will have dodged every single one, bait Gambit and defeat him.

Nightcrawler - Teleport 2 miles back and back. Why the heck would he do that? He doesn't know anything about Batman, hes not gonna retreat unless he knows its a big enemy. Most likely he'd teleport around, waiting for Batman to throw a batarang (Nightcrawler doesn't know about the gadgets right? Nor does he know about batman's baiting skills). Both could win this one. Does Flash pull a 'round the world' like he does every time he faces somebody? Of course not.

Blob - I can't discredit Blob because he's an idiot? I'd choose SPOILER over Blob just because of his brainpower.

Originally posted by 8bitChris
Predicting where someone running really fast is going to end up is a lot different from predicting a random teleportation pattern. I'm sorry, you can't justify Batman predicting where Nightcrawler is going to be with any arguement. Unless he had some sort of machine that monitors Kurt's movements in the dimension he goes to when he teleports; but i'm fairly positive Batman doesn't carry one of those around in his utility belt.

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No one has validly countered most of my arguments so I'm reposting them.

First off this is a no prep scenario. Batman cannot runaway from the fight (I'd say that would qualify as a ringout) to a lab (in which he would do what? Bruce Wayne is not Forge/Reed Richards/Victor von Doom/Henry Pym etc at best he applies/installs tech from Wayne Enterprises.) Since it isn’t stated that either opponent knows knowledge of the other I think we assume that only public knowledge is known.

Batman vs…
DD
I agree with high intensity sonic weapons Batman takes him down.

Wolverine
Disagree. Both are overrated. Though I agree that overwhelming Logan's senses is a good plan Batman cannot take off for a few hours, see above. He can't take on Logan without prep, therefore he loses. With prep I'd probably give it to Batman. Logan wins purely because he can take whatever damage Batman dishes out, while Batman can’t.

Captain America
I call this a draw. Both are peak human level with Cap being a stronger. Batman's gadget's only get him so far and realistically he does not have an endless supply. In the end they trade punches until someone passes out. Stalemate.

Nightwing
Two powerless(no offence) humans. Batman is a better Nightwing. Batman wins.

Gambit
You're sorely underestimating the core abilities of the Gambit character, and assuming that because he is not traditionally educated that he is a complete idiot. Two scenarios, close range and long range. Long range Batman throws a batarang etc, Gambit throws a playing card. He's done it thousands of times I wouldn't fault his aim. Gambit has 52 cards fitting neatly into a pocket. How many gadgets does Batman pack in his shiny utility belt? Long range Batman runs out of projectiles, while Gambit has them in spades both figuratively and literally. Short range scenario, Batman has the edge in training. Most physical attributes are equal but part of Gambit's mutation is an enhanced agility above peak normal humans level so I’d assume that Batman finds it hard to land punches. The Batsuit is an inanimate object, and the long flowy cape although nice and stylish lol is a disadvantage here. Gambit needs but physical contact with an inanimate object to charge it with kinetic energy to blow. Gambit wins in both scenarios.

Nightcrawler
No prep time to set anything that elaborate up and I have no idea what he intends to do with mirrors??? Three types of people can predict where Nightcrawler will teleport to, telepaths, precognitives (in which I may or may not include Sage's cyberpathic mind analysis but definitely not Batman’s intelligent though it may be ordinary human mind analysis) and Nightcrawler himself. Batman is not going to be able to predict where NC's gonna be. I'm wondering how fast a batarang travels? Nightcrawler can teleport away as fast as he can think. Nightcrawler has the edge in agility and range (wallcrawling) and speed due to teleporation. Nightcrawler also has an edge in number of prehensile limbs. Simplest strategy make physical contact via an unpredictable teleport, then teleport again both him and Batman two miles up into the air and teleport back without him, I've explained this strategy ad nauseum. After a port the passenger not used to the experience is commonly sickly, at the peak of the 2 mile summit Nightcrawler easily teleports away. I agree it could go either way but I have to put odds in favour of a Nightcrawler win.

Blob
Whether or not Blob is a complete retard is an opinion, you're discounting him purely on that? What is not an opinion is Blob's incredible durability. This is a head to head fight, no prep. The smartest thing Batman can do is stay out of Blob's way. Batarangs aren't doing sh!t. The Blob is resistant to pretty much anything Batman can fish out of that seemingly endless utility belt. Blob can generate personal gravity fields, when he doesn't want to be moved he is immovable. Batman can do nothing to hurt Blob, let alone defeat Blob. The fight is a stalemate or Blob win depending upon whether Blob catches Batman.

Good post. Cap would outlast Batman any day of the week though. Does gas work on Blob? If it does, Bats would win

Daredevil- Most of you are highly underestimating Daredevils abilities.
I'd pick Daredevil in this fight with out prep.

Wolverine- A good fight but Batman takes this one

Nightwing- Both know eachothers moves to a fault. This fight could go either way, but i'd say bats wins.

Gambit- Again most of you are underestimating his powers. If we use the true extent of Gambits powers he doesnt even need to touch Batman to kill him. All he has to do is charge the floor. But if we use Gambit's fighting prowess id still say Gambit. He is more agile then the bats, and hes a great fighter in his own right.

Nightcrawler- His teleporting would just be to much for the bats.

The blob- Batman wins this one, the blob is just to dumb.

DD- Batman. As stated.

Wolverine- Where he started, Batman would have a good chance. Wolverine is no longer at the point where he started. His healing is insane. He could probly let batman pull a full on batkick to a pressure point and have perfect use of the disbled body parts within a minute. Unless Batman comes up with something truly ingenious, Wolverine wins. Probly at least 8/10.

Captain America- Stalemate. these two are probably the best match in all comicdom. Cap is slightly stronger, I'd actually give Batman the edge in terms of h2h skill. The shield is better than any one of Batman's gadgets, but he has a damn lot of gadgets. Both take 5/10 and walk away.

Nightwing- No Robin will ever... ever... ever ever ever ever be close to Brucey. Never. Dick better bow to his sensei before Batman gets a crowbar and actually decides to learn from the Joker.

Gambit- I'm not really a big Gambit fan. He's still taking Batman. He's almost as good with those cards as bats is with the batarangs, and they do a hell of a lot more damage. Though I must say, charging Batman's suit wouldn't be very nice at all. Would probly end in a double KO too... Gambit still wins 7/10.

Nightcrawler- He's more agile than Batman, has a sword, and a huge maneuverability advantage. Kurt, 9/10 cuz of a lucky kick or conveniently placed explosive.

Blob- First off, the Batmobile doesn't actually fit into the utility belt in the first place. Second, it wouldn't do much to Blob. Neither will any gadgets. Batman's not stupid enough to get hit though. Eternal stalemate.

All that said, Batman=God. batman