Goku v. Superman

Originally posted by Illustrious
And apparently Goku at SSJ3 has problems pushing a mountain back, but Vegeta (who's weaker than Goku) at pre-SSJ levels can blow up a planet. Yeah, I have no problem with that either.

Arguing inconsistencies is splitting hairs and grasping at straws, you should stop.

I showed baby goku pushing something big 🙂

Superman gets hurt by ivy plant, electricty and a monkey

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
So the monkey is flashs speed ? Ivy plants are flash speed, and electricity hurts more than a planet exploding on superman ? A millitary missle pushes him back but he easily holds black holes...ok I got no prob with that.

🙂

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
I just explained his speed in combat and how fast....would you read it and stop being so ignorant, i know you won't be satisfied and cant take that superman could get hurt..but damn you take it to far...theres even people here that dont even have superman comics and argue untill they die.

WTF, combat speed?

Oh, I guess these don’t count then… 🙄

Lightning fast fists:

Holding on from various angles at the SAME TIME:

Again fighting Imperiex from various angles at the same time:

Speed Blocking:

Speed fighting Mongul again:

WW blocks gunfire from every direction.

http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?l...e=JLA40pg11.jpg

Blocking more bullets with ease.

http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ww4218ic.jpg

Incredible display of her reflexive speeds.

http://img103.imageshack.us/my.php?...age=WW194-1.jpg

http://img103.imageshack.us/my.php?...age=WW194-2.jpg

Diana deflecting Bullets, while she is still blind.

http://img124.exs.cx/img124/5278/blindwonder7gb.png

Blocking Bullets while suffering from nerve damage in her middle ear, effectively preventing her from flying or leaping.

http://img42.imageshack.us/my.php?l...v281pg161sg.jpg

Wonder Woman reflecting bullets (automatic fire).

http://www.newsarama.com/DC/Wonder_Woman/WW215p1.jpg

http://www.newsarama.com/DC/Wonder_Woman/WW215p2.jpg

And speedbiltzing.

http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?...oubles411mb.jpg

Wonder Woman is has speed in both flight speed and reflexive/fighting speeds.

It's also cited that Superman is as fast, if not faster than Wonder Woman from the writers of DC themselves!

I guess Supes has slow "combat" speed, but he can just punch, kick, block, dodge, and grab on at really fast speeds, right?

Blowing up a planet is one thing... physically pushing it out of orbit from one location to another is something else...

(Although I'm suprised Supes didn't simply go through it instead, I mean it's not like Earth or any other organic world is completely solid and imune from crumbling under such pressure... 😛 )

Yes, Goku and everyone stronger than 10,000 Power level in the DB universe has he power to destroy planets, anyone above Frieza (15,000,000 Power Level) can do it completely under their own power, But thats not much compared to things like surviving two universal assholes (Black Holes), or physically moving a celestial body with nothing but your hands.

Remember, the Planet Busters of the DB universe are energy based, they detonate. now Supes comparatively can punch with just as much, if not more force than these guys strongest energy based attacks...

Do I really need to spell that out?

Batman dodges too. Omg if you ever watched dbz or read the manga you should know its faster than superman mving his hands a little...your just ignorant now.

bleh.... this isd exactly why dbz got taken out of the versus forum... dbz characters are hard to gauge and inconsistant it's true.. but we do know that they have comparible superhuman feats to superman, wonder woman, orion, etc... in their early stages and evolved wayyyyy past those levels throughout the entire cities.. if anyong here truly thinks goku goes down in one hit they need to rethink the premise to their conclusion... piccolo destroyed the moon at one of his weakest levels.. goku's taking blasts thousands of times greater than that to the face by the end of the frieza saga.. it stands to reason he can take a superman punch just fine..

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Blowing up a planet is one thing... physically pushing it out of orbit from one location to another is something else...

(Although I'm suprised Supes didn't simply go through it instead, I mean it's not like Earth or any other organic world is completely solid and imune from crumbling under such pressure... 😛 )

Yes, Goku and everyone stronger than 10,000 Power level in the DB universe has he power to destroy planets, anyone above Frieza (15,000,000 Power Level) can do it completely under their own power, But thats not much compared to things like surviving two universal assholes (Black Holes), or physically moving a celestial body with hothing but your hands.

Remember, the Planet Busters of the DB universe are energy based, they detonate. now Supes comparatively can punch with just as much, if not more force than these guys strongest energy based attacks...

Do I really need to spell that out?

aTell that to the monkey that owned supes or ivy plants and electricity...

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Batman dodges too. Omg if you ever watched dbz or read the manga you should know its faster than superman mving his hands a little...your just ignorant now.

WTF? You were the person that said you can't directly compare Superman and Goku since they aren't in the same series. Now you're saying clearly Goku is faster because DBZ is faster, even in the face of irrefutable PROOF.

Superman is so fast, he can be in multiple places at once. He was attacking Imperiex by grabbing him, frying at him with his heat vision, punching him, and holding him back all at once!

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
aTell that to the monkey that owned supes or ivy plants and electricity...

Tell the "rock" to Piccolo who killed Goku, and he's a lizard.

superman moving his hands really fast doesn't mean he fights faster than dbz fighters who again do that sort of thing in the early stages of the show...

why does this continue to be ignored?

Originally posted by Illustrious
WTF? You were the person that said you can't directly compare Superman and Goku since they aren't in the same series. Now you're saying clearly Goku is faster because DBZ is faster, even in the face of irrefutable PROOF.

Superman is so fast, he can be in multiple places at once. He was attacking Imperiex by grabbing him, frying at him with his heat vision, punching him, and holding him back all at once!

So is it my fault that you are confused...

Originally posted by Illustrious
Tell the "rock" to Piccolo who killed Goku, and he's a lizard.

Right.......go to bed now...

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
So is it my fault that you are confused...

You seem to be confused on the part of "being in multiple places at once" and attacking from various positions simultaneously.

Come back when you get it.

You asked for proof, I gave it to you. Now you're dodging again.

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Right.......go to bed now...

And what were you saying about insults?

LMFAO, you can't even stop being a hypocrite, much less argue.

I'm still waiting for a yes or no on that challenge.

Dbz at the beggining at the show are way stronger at the end of the show, and you people say oh this hurt goku....ok at the beggining of the show...goku is way stronger now if you can not tell. You guys fail to see this.

Monkey and plant owns superman.

Originally posted by Illustrious
And what were you saying about insults?

LMFAO, you can't even stop being a hypocrite, much less argue.

I'm still waiting for a yes or no on that challenge.

You can't stop being ignorant 🙂

Some people are arguing just to argue. And when the ystart losing they resort back to tactics that they were JUST called on about.

Especially that Playing the victim bullshit that shows that they can't comprehend the difference between what they are doing and what another person is doing. They are desperatly floundering to save the character they are a fanboy of.

Serious this shit is ridiculous, they find a few weak showings and glorify that like THAT was the set standard that cancels out OVER 80 different feats. 3 feats cancel out over 80 others?

SERIOUSLY, that is BULL FU CKING SHIT.

They just don't want to lose even though they have no real choice.

He's just going to argue forever because hes THAT big of a fanboy and doesn't want to lose, especially with such a low IQ that he can't comprehend what other people are saying.

Face facts, DBZ DOESN'T have anything to show being comparable to Superman.

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Dbz at the beggining at the show are way stronger at the end of the show, and you people say oh this hurt goku....ok at the beggining of the show...goku is way stronger now if you can not tell. You guys fail to see this.

Monkey and plant owns superman.

You're also saying stuff like Doomsday beats Supes, which happened 10 years ago.

Supes has gotten stronger too, don't blame me for your ignorance.

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
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u,, the scans dont show him fighting fast......he is flying....or running....not combat.......no....monkey is flashs speed then...

Superman catching bullets with little effort. This is something the DBZ/GT characters can do also though.

http://img427.imageshack.us/img427/7900/08222005050314pm8il.jpg

http://img427.imageshack.us/img427/1994/supermancatchingbullets2zl.jpg

Here's Superman reading at high speeds (something Goku or any of the DBZ/GT characters ever done).

http://img427.imageshack.us/img427/3631/superman1458uz.jpg

Superman fighting at high speeds.

http://img427.imageshack.us/img427/7631/08222005115613am2yo.jpg

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/500/speed44tq.jpg

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/59/pics0011fn.jpg

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/1285/08222005124311pm4st.jpg

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/2660/superman20speed20vs20mongul203.jpg

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/9748/supermanandmongul5lo.jpg

Here's Superman vibrating (phasing) his body so fast that hes going right through Doomsday Lightning/Fire Breath. This is proof that hes far faster than any DBZ/GT character.

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/6710/supermanfast2od.jpg

Here's Superman vibrating his body invisible now, something they also can't do either.

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/1522/supermaninvisible40wp.jpg

There you go, Superman is faster than any DBZ/GT character, and you havn't proven that they are.