Goku v. Superman

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
think again creshosk.... There power is like a battery...The more they fight using it, the more it drains. Every time they use there power they still have more to carry one fighting... Or have been fighting then done a blast. You have never seen any fighter use all there power in a blast. The only time is when gohan goes all out at freezer and puts all his power into a masenko blast...

Destroying planets in the DBZverse is not impressive.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
think again creshosk.... There power is like a battery...The more they fight using it, the more it drains. Every time they use there power they still have more to carry one fighting... Or have been fighting then done a blast. You have never seen any fighter use all there power in a blast. The only time is when gohan goes all out at freezer and puts all his power into a masenko blast...

Goku went all out against Cell (he actually fooled Cell into thinking he was about to destroy the planet with his fully powered Kamehameha wave, when he was chargeing the blast aiming down towards the planet, instead he used IT and unleashed the blast in front of Cell ) , Kid Buu, Freiza and alot more. Supes isn't going to stand around and let ssj3/4 Goku take time to charge up attacks when there fighting.

yes your right distroying planets in the DBZ universe isn't impressive as there are alot of high power lvls that can do it. Distroying planets in the DC universe is impressive. Has superman showed the ability to distroy planets?

remember:
"...Superman can once again survive nuclear blasts, though they leave him wounded and weakened.."

Yup gokus blasts are easily enough to hurt/kill superman....

"Goku went all out against Cell (he actually fooled Cell into thinking he was about to destroy the planet with his fully powered Kamehameha wave, when he was chargeing the blast aiming down towards the planet, instead he used IT and unleashed the blast in front of Cell ) , Kid Buu, Freiza and alot more."

Your telling me... He when from being fresh and powerful and put all his energy into one kamekameha..... Or did he fight for along time, fire multipul blasts of energy, then fire his kamehameha??? And he had enough energy left over to explode himself...

Not exactly all his power into a single blast now is it...

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
yes your right distroying planets in the DBZ universe isn't impressive as there are alot of high power lvls that can do it. Distroying planets in the DC universe is impressive. Has superman showed the ability to distroy planets?

remember:
"...Superman can once again survive nuclear blasts, though they leave him wounded and weakened.."

Yup gokus blasts are easily enough to hurt/kill superman....

Superman has survived a black hole, worm hole, planet/star destroying attacks and blast, one million megaton bomb point blank, a sun eater at ground zero and countless other stuff. SSJ3/4 Goku get badly hurt by fighters who blast just destroy moutians, cities, and make craters; it doesn't have to be planet destroying blast to kill them. Goku also was burned by Nova Shinron, so if Supes blast him with Heat Vision (which is hotter than stars) it's over.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
yes your right distroying planets in the DBZ universe isn't impressive as there are alot of high power lvls that can do it. Distroying planets in the DC universe is impressive. Has superman showed the ability to distroy planets?

remember:
"...Superman can once again survive nuclear blasts, though they leave him wounded and weakened.."

Yup gokus blasts are easily enough to hurt/kill superman....

"Goku went all out against Cell (he actually fooled Cell into thinking he was about to destroy the planet with his fully powered Kamehameha wave, when he was chargeing the blast aiming down towards the planet, instead he used IT and unleashed the blast in front of Cell ) , Kid Buu, Freiza and alot more."

Your telling me... He when from being fresh and powerful and put all his energy into one kamekameha..... Or did he fight for along time, fire multipul blasts of energy, then fire his kamehameha??? And he had enough energy left over to explode himself...

Not exactly all his power into a single blast now is it...

It was all of his power, because after that blast, he could barly continue fighting, that's why he gaved up to let Gohan continue the fight against Cell.

"It was all of his power, because after that blast, he could barly continue fighting, that's why he gaved up to let Gohan continue the fight against Cell"

Rubbish and you know it... He used up power before that attack and he used more power after that attack... He didn't use all his power in one attack like you say...

"Superman has survived a black hole, worm hole, planet/star destroying attacks and blast, one million megaton bomb point blank, a sun eater at ground zero and countless other stuff."

Examples please... I believe most was pre-crisis.....

"SSJ3/4 Goku get badly hurt by fighters who blast just destroy moutians, cities, and make craters; it doesn't have to be planet destroying blast to kill them. Goku also was burned by Nova Shinron, so if Supes blast him with Heat Vision (which is hotter than stars) it's over."

Yes he gets weared down from those attacks... remember there punches are not just using there strength, they channel there energy into each attack..., Not one of those attacks has the power to instantly kill him.

😗supes heat vision would get slapped away...😗

Originally posted by Creshosk
And this relates to my post how?

Destroying planets in the DBZverse is not impressive.

See, the hole created was still large enough to be seen from space though. I'd say something that made a crater that big would destroy the planet anyway. And if I'm recalling right, the blast was digging it's way to the core of the planet to detonate, he just didn't put enough behind it to get it there very fast.

plus "namek was a tough old planet... Ill give it another 5 mins tops.. (2 episodes later) boom!!!"

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
"It was all of his power, because after that blast, he could barly continue fighting, that's why he gaved up to let Gohan continue the fight against Cell"

Rubbish and you know it... He used up power before that attack and he used more power after that attack... He didn't use all his power in one attack like you say...

"Superman has survived a black hole, worm hole, planet/star destroying attacks and blast, one million megaton bomb point blank, a sun eater at ground zero and countless other stuff."

Examples please... I believe most was pre-crisis.....

"SSJ3/4 Goku get badly hurt by fighters who blast just destroy moutians, cities, and make craters; it doesn't have to be planet destroying blast to kill them. Goku also was burned by Nova Shinron, so if Supes blast him with Heat Vision (which is hotter than stars) it's over."

Yes he gets weared down from those attacks... remember there punches are not just using there strength, they channel there energy into each attack..., Not one of those attacks has the power to instantly kill him.

😗supes heat vision would get slapped away...😗

All of those are post-crisis, I never use pre-crisis when I'm debating. And he his energy was drained during that fight, that's why he couldn't continue fighting because he put all of his energy into that attack, which is why he gave up, because his power level was decreasing every second after he did that blast. And yes he does get badly enjured by attacks far less then planet busters like I was saying, he physically isn't in Supes league and he loses energy way to fast in ssj3/4 transformations. And Supes Heat Vision is very powerful.

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/8780/supes7my.jpg

Supes shoots a beam of low-intensity Heat Vision at the Moon. People in the watch tower was blinded except for Plastic Man cause sense he had shades on. The Moon is very far from Earth, this shows the range Supes Heat Vision has.

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/6520/supermansheatvision24ga.jpg

In this pic it shows that Supes Heat Vision stated by them, "his vision is off the charts by any standard scientific measures". They can measure how hot a star is, but they cannot measure the temp of Supermans Heat Vision.

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/8607/supermansheatvision35tk.jpg

In Superman #167: his power waning under a red sun, but he still summoned enough Heat Vision to successfully power Jor-ELs planet-moving ion engines. The in this case had a mass 16 times that of Earth's.

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/7351/supermansheatvision15vd.jpg

In this pic, Superman is flying by the sun to stop the Cannabal planet from destroying the sun.

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/4315/supermansheatvison2cw.jpg

Superman calculating the guys melting point.

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http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/4862/08222005125029pm4mr.jpg

Supes just spraying this guy with Heat Vision.

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SSJ4 Goku was getting burned by Nova Shinrons heat, I think Supes whould melt every single Cell with no problem at all if he wants to. Yep. Supes can use Heat Vision, 5-6000 degrees is enough to melt every single cell out of ssj3/4 Goku. If that's not enough (I'm sure it is though) he can always amp it up to even greater tempatures. Supes can also just stand over him, sraying him with Heat Vision too. But he doesn't have to go that far, as one or two punches from Supes will off ssj3/4 Goku. 😐

Originally posted by Dizzle
See, the hole created was still large enough to be seen from space though. I'd say something that made a crater that big would destroy the planet anyway.

Originally posted by Dizzle
And if I'm recalling right, the blast was digging it's way to the core of the planet to detonate, he just didn't put enough behind it to get it there very fast.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
plus "namek was a tough old planet... Ill give it another 5 mins tops.. (2 episodes later) boom!!!"

What I'm saying is, are you sure that a ball of energy shot to the Earth's core won't destroy it? Real physics here. (kinda) A hole all the way down to the core of the planet would probably do a very good job of blowing it up. Can't say I'm 100%, but I'm still pretty sure the blast was burrowing to the core of Namek before it blew up... Those blasts just seem like the kinds of things that would actually destroy a planet (take Frieza's first one on Vegeta... the thing was almost as big as the planet itself, and that was a low powered Frieza)

And yes. DBZ people are so fast that every 2 episodes are only 5 minutes to them. Lightspeed is nothing 😛. (that's a big jk, for those wondering)

Originally posted by Dizzle
What I'm saying is, are you sure that a ball of energy shot to the Earth's core won't destroy it?

No, I haven't... I'm thinking the people at DBZ just think that a blast like the one in question really would destroy a planet... The thing with energy fields to disrupt hasn't actually been stated anywhere. There's crappy physics everywhere. Even Superman comics...

Originally posted by Dizzle
No, I haven't... I'm thinking the people at DBZ just think that a blast like the one in question really would destroy a planet... The thing with energy fields to disrupt hasn't actually been stated anywhere. There's crappy physics everywhere. Even Superman comics...

Superman's crappy physics is greater than DBZ's crappy physics. . even though DBZ's is technically crappier.

Superman pulled himself out of a double black hole. . . that's pretty damned impressive.

isnt the only way to kill superman is by kryptonite ? if soo ..question WHERE THE HELL IS GOKU GONNA GET IS HANDS ON KYPTONITE ?!?!?!

Originally posted by Creshosk
Superman's crappy physics is greater than DBZ's crappy physics. . even though DBZ's is technically crappier.

Superman pulled himself out of a double black hole. . . that's pretty damned impressive.

Indeed! 🙂 😄 😎

Originally posted by legacy92
isnt the only way to kill superman is by kryptonite ? if soo ..question WHERE THE HELL IS GOKU GONNA GET IS HANDS ON KYPTONITE ?!?!?!

Supes can be hurt by physical force and other things, Kryptonite is just his weakness that's all. And Goku doesn't know about Kryptonite, so nope he won't be able to come up with it. 🙂

oh ic
well wuts gokus weakness
oh ino is it NEEDLES LMAO ?

ACTUALLY WEN WE KOM TO TINK OF THIS BATTLE
GOKU IS A ALIEN RITE to earth
and superman wait wus he a alien ?at begging from a diffrent planet ?
anyways wer dealing with to supers
a superMAN verses a super SAYIN
now wen u hav that in mind wut u tink the outkom of this match would be now ?

Originally posted by legacy92
oh ic
well wuts gokus weakness
oh ino is it NEEDLES LMAO ?

Sayian's tails use to be there weakness back at the beginnig of DBZ, but as they became stronger it didn't even bother them anymore. I guess you can say Gokus weakness is that he lose energy to fast each time he goes to a higher level of Super Sayian.