Originally posted by dvampire
Energy beam are as fast as a photon or laser beam, Supes out raced a beam, ssj4 Goku couldn't. Supes has cought countless of bullets, that one pic where they show Supes missing bullets was only halve the story what happened. Go back at the Supeman vs. Thor thread and see the new pics of Superman speed. SSJ3 Goku was only able to lift havle a city and he lose energy very fast, those punches and kicks would be nothing to Supes. Supes was racing Flash at 100 mach while running without flying. Supes has proven several times thats his faster than light.They get hurt by energy blast as well as their punches and kicks that do way less than what Supes does, their physical attacks sometimes do more than there energy blast. One punch from Superman and the fight is over, ssj3/4 or anybody from DBZ/GT can't take that much punching power from him or he can just blast him with Heat Vision (5-6000 should be enough) to end the fight.
Nobody in DBZ/GT move at light speed, that whould mean that Goku whouldn't need to use instant transmission; Supes goes light speed on his own. You can move less than sound and light speed, and still look like your teleporting.
Gohan caught bullets.
Incorrect thesis: Stateing that no one in dbz can move at light speed because goku wouldnet need to use instant transmission.
Goku can travel anywhere in the universe by simply thinking of that location. Why waste time traveling at light speed when you can be thier in an instant?
If your defending superman. Honestly, being fair and non biased to either. you are plain stupid.
Sorry.