Goku v. Superman

Started by Hit_and_Miss189 pages

We are not trying to handycap superman. Your using feats that are impossible to put into context.

"Colors aer just different frequencies of light interacting with your retina and creating electical impulses that are interpreted by your brain."

Yup and light can't excape a black hole.... So what superman is holding can't be a black hole in his hands.
So superman didn't escape a true black hole, he just simply escaped something with the gravity less then the half of the speed of light. Seeing as a double one should just about put his top speed over lightspeed....

well, in fact a black hole is able to eat an entire galaxie,we havent been swallowed by one until now because the nearest one is at least 1000000 light years from pluto,and what hit and miss said is true, and yeah, i know we cant follow all the science laws in a comic, that is why a black hole of dc is a lot weaker than a real one, that is the only thing i am trying to say

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
light can't excape a black hole....

That USE to be true, but scietists have challenged witch'es views that light permeates ALL matter including that of the blackhole, witches proved victorius of very small hints of light exurt from the outer and inner rims of a blackhole, mostly the outer.

Also scientists (Though they really don't need to be doing this as the human race should not hold this much control over the universe..) have learned how to slow down light or even stop it in it's tracks, thus defeating speedlight and though not dismissing Enstien's thery that nothing can go faster then light, have made it become obselete because they can manipulate the velocity of light itself.

So they can mess with the velocity of pure energy, and yet SpellJammer's computer has to wait 5 ****ing seconds before he can type two keys double-digitaly such as "mm".. What a world..

Originally posted by dvampire
Indeed! 🙂 😄 😆

Here's Superman holding a black hole in the palm of his hand too. Which also prove that hes far stronger than any DBZ/GT character.

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3199/supermanblackhole0016uk.jpg


Should you be unfortunate enough (and foolish enough) to be sucked into a black hole your demise would be nearly instantaneous in your reference frame. You would first be pulled apart by intense tidal forces because the force on your feet would be much stronger than that on your head. Then you would be crushed into infinite density as you become part of the singularity at the center of the black hole.
Things would appear very different to a distant observer due to the General Relativistic effects described above. Time, as measured far away, would appear to get slower and slower as you approach the gravitational radius - the distant observer would be denied the thrill of actually seeing you disappear into the black hole because time "stops" at the gravitational radius. Any signals that you send would be redshifted by increasing amounts as you near the black hole.
Gravitational Time Dilation: Time slows down in a strong gravitational field. Newton's concept of time was an absolute quantity flowing uniformly through the Universe. Einstein showed that the measurement of time is relative, depending on the reference frame of the person who is making the measurement. The Special Theory demonstrated that timekeepers in motion with respect for each other will measure different times for events in each others reference frames: a timekeeper "at rest" will find that an event occurring in a rapidly moving reference frame will take a longer time than a timekeeper moving along with the event. A famous example of Special Relativistic Time Dilation is the Twin Paradox:
Twins Bill and Jill, born within minutes of each other, take differing career paths. Jill becomes an astronaut and Bill becomes a ground-based astronomer. On their 21st birthday Jill sets out on a space mission to Aldebaran, 32 light years away. Travelling at 99.5% of the speed of light, Jill measures a time of 3.2 years for her trip to Aldebaran and another 3.2 years for her return. (Incideltally, while she is travelling near the speed of light she also sees the distance to Aldebaran contracted to a mere 3.2 light years.) Bill finds that it takes her 32 years and 2 months for each leg. Upon Jill's return, she is 27 while her sibling is 85! Bizarre as these effects appear to us slow moving mortals, relativistic time dilation has been repeatedly confirmed in high energy particle accelerators, where particles travel near the speed of light, and by atomic clock on supersonic aircraft.

I forgot to mention that the smaller a black hole the stronger it is. SO for Superman to be holding a black hole in his palm I'd say the BH was 4 by 6 in. However a BH of that size could in fact absorb the Universe. Even though comic book science isn't the same as real world science the creators would have to base it on real world science. And if you are going to disregard Video Game characters are not reliable than you have to disregard Comic Book characters to. After VG Superman and CB Superman are two different people while VG, M/A Goku are all the same. And since this is the VIDEO GAME VERSUS FORUM then you have no choice NO CHOICE but to agree. If you don't why don't we just ask the Moderators if this is true.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
We are not trying to handycap superman. Your using feats that are impossible to put into context.

"Colors aer just different frequencies of light interacting with your retina and creating electical impulses that are interpreted by your brain."

Yup and light can't excape a black hole.... So what superman is holding can't be a black hole in his hands.
So superman didn't escape a true black hole, he just simply escaped something with the gravity less then the half of the speed of light. Seeing as a double one should just about put his top speed over lightspeed....

Then his top speed is over lightspeed. 😄

Originally posted by Hoshi
well, in fact a black hole is able to eat an entire galaxie,we havent been swallowed by one until now because the nearest one is at least 1000000 light years from pluto,and what hit and miss said is true, and yeah, i know we cant follow all the science laws in a comic, that is why a black hole of dc is a lot weaker than a real one, that is the only thing i am trying to say
That or Superman is sstronger than you first thought. 😄

Originally posted by theobvious
I forgot to mention that the smaller a black hole the stronger it is. SO for Superman to be holding a black hole in his palm I'd say the BH was 4 by 6 in. However a BH of that size could in fact absorb the Universe. Even though comic book science isn't the same as real world science the creators would have to base it on real world science. And if you are going to disregard Video Game characters are not reliable than you have to disregard Comic Book characters to. After VG Superman and CB Superman are two different people while VG, M/A Goku are all the same. And since this is the VIDEO GAME VERSUS FORUM then you have no choice NO CHOICE but to agree. If you don't why don't we just ask the Moderators if this is true.
So Comic book Goku can be beaten by Mr. Satan? 😕 Oh right VG Goku and Comic book Goku are two seperate ones as well. Hey VG Goku can be taken out by Mr. Satan.

And VG Wolverine can take out VG Onslaught. . . and Wolverine can beat magneto. . . yeah VG's are balanced so as to not over power each character. . at least they try anyways, as you still get tiers. . . VG's are unreliable. Comic book characters are more fixed. 🙂

Originally posted by Creshosk
Then his top speed is over lightspeed. 😄

That or Superman is sstronger than you first thought. 😄

So Comic book Goku can be beaten by Mr. Satan? 😕 Oh right VG Goku and Comic book Goku are two seperate ones as well. Hey VG Goku can be taken out by Mr. Satan.

And VG Wolverine can take out VG Onslaught. . . and Wolverine can beat magneto. . . yeah VG's are balanced so as to not over power each character. . at least they try anyways, as you still get tiers. . . VG's are unreliable. Comic book characters are more fixed. 🙂


I see you have my meaning of all the Goku's in different genres being the same. I mean the story modes in the games. They all follow the storyline from Raditz to Omega Shenron. You can lose the fights but that's not what actually happened. And Budokai Tenkaichi will have over 60 characters including Dragonball Goku and Master Roshi and Oozaru. Oozaru and Master Roshi are irrelevant but I think it helps to show that DB will be included. So Anime Manga and Video Game Goku are the same.

There is still meaning to Goku's true power and I do agree with The Obvious that Tenkaichi will have more than 60 Fighters. Also, it looks like you can travel farther in the stage too.

VG Goku MIGHT be able to be taken out by Mr. Satan. SpellJammer is pretty quick with those ki shots, if he just kept blasting Satan not allowing him to use his 5-second Freeze Pose, he could probably beat him. Because after ki-shooting him his HP will be so low a couple well placed shots to the groin would do the trick..

As for overall. (End of Frieza saga as always.) Super Goku has a power level of 15,000,000. What would be Superman's power level? Well truthfuly he runs on a differany system, hie doesn't use so much energy as he does brute force. Compared to the strength seen in DBZ, Supes actually seems MUCH stronger, but his laser eye beams show differantly. He's probably compraible to a Ginyu Force member. Maybe even Captain Ginyu (100,000) or stronger (200,000.) but no more. Which as said before, his only chance would be to grapple Goku and soffocate him in space. But most likely Goku could out strengthen Superman using his "energy" to shock Supes body causing him to let go and kamehemeha him. Possibly not destroying him, but sending him far off so he could catch some air. The battle will most likely end as Brolly's did. Goku sending Kal-El to the sun. An ironic death considering that's what gives him his power.

Originally posted by theobvious
I see you have my meaning of all the Goku's in different genres being the same. I mean the story modes in the games. They all follow the storyline from Raditz to Omega Shenron. You can lose the fights but that's not what actually happened. And Budokai Tenkaichi will have over 60 characters including Dragonball Goku and Master Roshi and Oozaru. Oozaru and Master Roshi are irrelevant but I think it helps to show that DB will be included. So Anime Manga and Video Game Goku are the same.
So Mr. Satan beat Goku? 😕

Originally posted by Spelljammer
VG Goku MIGHT be able to be taken out by Mr. Satan. SpellJammer is pretty quick with those ki shots, if he just kept blasting Satan not allowing him to use his 5-second Freeze Pose, he could probably beat him. Because after ki-shooting him his HP will be so low a couple well placed shots to the groin would do the trick..

As for overall. (End of Frieza saga as always.) Super Goku has a power level of 15,000,000. What would be Superman's power level? Well truthfuly he runs on a differany system, hie doesn't use so much energy as he does brute force. Compared to the strength seen in DBZ, Supes actually seems MUCH stronger, but his laser eye beams show differantly. He's probably compraible to a Ginyu Force member. Maybe even Captain Ginyu (100,000) or stronger (200,000.) but no more. Which as said before, his only chance would be to grapple Goku and soffocate him in space. But most likely Goku could out strengthen Superman using his "energy" to shock Supes body causing him to let go and kamehemeha him. Possibly not destroying him, but sending him far off so he could catch some air. The battle will most likely end as Brolly's did. Goku sending Kal-El to the sun. An ironic death considering that's what gives him his power.

Superman lives in the sun for 1000+ years to becaome Superman prime. Throwing him into the sun will power him up. . .

And Superman can deal with black holes, I don't see him as being as weak as any ginyu, or even as weak as Goku. . .

I wonder if superman reached singularity.. if not.. well...

Originally posted by Creshosk
So Mr. Satan beat Goku? 😕

yup just like batman can beat superman 😕

creshosk, we all know that comics don't give us the truth, the fact superman is anywere near a black hole is stupid. you know it, I know it.

Could superman blow up a planet if he wanted???

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
yup just like batman can beat superman 😕

creshosk, we all know that comics don't give us the truth, the fact superman is anywere near a black hole is stupid. you know it, I know it.

Could superman blow up a planet if he wanted???

Doesn't matter if it seems stupid, he did it. 🙂

He says he could blow up a planet and he probably could, but being a good guy he doesn't.

And we've been over why blowing up a planet isn't that impressive. 😉

It mostly always seems that villians like Freiza can already blow up planets.

Superman wins. 😄 🙂 😆

dbz you ****in bitches

you guys dont realize goku's

power level!!!???

he would kick anyones ass very quickly and since when has goku lost a fight???

correct myself

goku did forfeit in the match against cell only because he wanted to see gohans strength

oh yeah

gohan would kill supe if he got his temper high enough

Originally posted by Creshosk
So Mr. Satan beat Goku? 😕

hell no mr.satan did nt beat goku are you ****ing crazy??!!??

do you know who mr.satan is anyway????

hes hercule and would die from one flick from supes

yo check it out gohan!
and trunks!
they would kill supes like this!