Goku v. Superman

Started by Deus Ex189 pages

Goku has spent half of the series in healing chambers, dead, or both. Superman could probably rip his ass in two, literally.

I mean, is there some way that Goku is gonna outsmart someone who is nothing like anyone he's every faced? Indeed, much stronger than anyone he's faced?

first off.. yeah goku usually spends most of his time hurt.. but it's because he's usually just kicked the crap out of the baddest assed guy there is at the moment... and remember being hurt and recovering is actually a plus for a saiyan...

also I wouldn't call superman unlike anything goku's ever faced before.... they are similar in too many ways to care for IMO...

Fanboy battle

This is kinda silly.. I would say most people on this forum will not give an impartial response.

Thing is.. even Vegeta early on from the Vegeta saga was totally capable of destroying whole planets - and this was before any of them had managed to reach super saiyan level.
Fact is, as much as I love DBZ, their characters are balanced to fight against other DBZ characters. Their power is ridiculous when compared to most Marvel characters.

Perhaps SS3 Goku *ss4 is a joke.. any DB fan knows DBGT was filler for kiddies on morning TV* would be best matched against someone like Thanos w/ the Infinity Gaultlet?

P.S. Remember, Saiyans improve themselves by fighting new and more powerful opponents.. For example just look at the massive transformations the main characters have undertaken over the years. First there was Piccolo, then Vegeta, then Freezer, then Cell and finally Buu *with many inbetween*

Broli

Broli, anyone? =]

Originally posted by AdventChild
you guys are FANBOYS!

Coming from soneone who said:

Originally posted by AdventChild
i like goku better so he wins! 😛 😄

You have no room to call ANYONE a fanboy.

Re: Fanboy battle

Thing is.. even Vegeta early on from the Vegeta saga was totally capable of destroying whole planets - and this was before any of them had managed to reach super saiyan level.
Fact is, as much as I love DBZ, their characters are balanced to fight against other DBZ characters. Their power is ridiculous when compared to most Marvel characters.

As I have said many times, No Dbz character has ever been shown capable of blwing up the planet with there own power...... Kid Buu and Frieza both hit the cores of the planets to blow them up.... while every other statement about destroying planets they have been aiming right at the core (planet)

Perhaps SS3 Goku *ss4 is a joke.. any DB fan knows DBGT was filler for kiddies on morning TV* would be best matched against someone like Thanos w/ the Infinity Gaultlet?

I agree with your statement on Gt but

I don't know much about Thanos, So I have no right to say one is stronger then the other (Without proof) but from what I hear about him he could ripp Goku's arms off and beat him with them

P.S. Remember, Saiyans improve themselves by fighting new and more powerful opponents.. For example just look at the massive transformations the main characters have undertaken over the years. First there was Piccolo, then Vegeta, then Freezer, then Cell and finally Buu *with many inbetween*

No saiya-jins can get more skilled and smarter from fighting but they only get power from near-death experiances.

Originally posted by Whiteclipse
EXACTLY, thank you AdventChild i really appreciate that

Oh I wasn't attacking you... I was just asking and correcting..

Anyway Advent if you don't wanaa debate... then just leave, nobody cares....

Originally posted by RagnaViper
For God's sakes! DBZ wins against everything!

Even that ****ing turtle that lived with Master Roshi could brutally rape anything anywhere anytime except someone else from the DBZ universe. DBZ is so unreasonably overpowered, it's not even remotely fair to put a DBZ character up against anyone else except someone from the DBZ universe.


It's true, Turtle had like a power level somewhere as a joke level of 0.1. However in a filler (Garlic Jr saga) his power rose to somewhere like 20 the way he layed the smackdown on a couple of thugs..

This is kinda silly.. I would say most people on this forum will not give an impartial response.

It must not be impartial because you disagree. If they can put it in context and argue it with proof and reason, it's impartial enough. That's what one side (Supes supporters) have done, and what the others haven't.

Thing is.. even Vegeta early on from the Vegeta saga was totally capable of destroying whole planets - and this was before any of them had managed to reach super saiyan level.
Fact is, as much as I love DBZ, their characters are balanced to fight against other DBZ characters. Their power is ridiculous when compared to most Marvel characters.

Too bad Superman isn't a Marvel character... 🙄

And what's your point? Imperiex presumably could reboot the Universe, but he had to exploit a weakspot in the fabric in order to do so. What's greater? A low level, crappy planet (no DBZ character ever blew up any planet like Earth on their own power, like TPina said) or the entire bloody universe?

Guess what? Imperiex was beaten by Superman. What does this say without context? NOTHING.

Look at the previous pages for proof, Superman is simply stronger, faster, and more durable than Goku or anyone Goku has faced. Supes rips Goku a new one.

Perhaps SS3 Goku *ss4 is a joke.. any DB fan knows DBGT was filler for kiddies on morning TV* would be best matched against someone like Thanos w/ the Infinity Gaultlet?

I guess you're one of those "kiddies" that watch the "fillers," because you're buying right into it.

Thanos w/ IG would so utterly destroy any DBGT character it won't even be good entertainment for supervillains anymore.

P.S. Remember, Saiyans improve themselves by fighting new and more powerful opponents.. For example just look at the massive transformations the main characters have undertaken over the years. First there was Piccolo, then Vegeta, then Freezer, then Cell and finally Buu *with many inbetween*

Okay?

Substantiate and add context.

Originally posted by Illustrious
Okay?

Substantiate and add context.

One trhing they forgot is: Round one the thing they're up against always beats them down, then they have to go train to get stronger.

This is a one time shot fight however. There is no round two.

Remember how at first each of the villians listed beat the heroes FIRST. . .

Yeah, and that and the fact that Superman can get stronger with more of the yellow suns energy too. And not to mention the fact he's stronger, faster, and more durable than Goku or anyone he's faced, with the possible exception of Buu being more "durable."

More likely than not, Superman takes Goku for a sundip. Game set and match. Either that or punches him hard enough for a closed casket.

How fast is he?

Hey i know supes is mad strong, but just how fast is he? i have no idea about his speed so if you can give me some ballpark numbers with some examples from the comic that would be appreciated

Re: How fast is he?

Originally posted by Whiteclipse
Hey i know supes is mad strong, but just how fast is he? i have no idea about his speed so if you can give me some ballpark numbers with some examples from the comic that would be appreciated

Go to page 55 for some of his feats. 🙂

Supes is easily as fast if not faster than Goku, especially since IT requires locking on and takes a bit to initiate.

The only exception to the IT rule was in the pseudocanon movie.

supes has shown to be faster than the speed of light on a few occasions...

here's the thing... it's not an irregular tactic for superman to literally grab an opponent and fly out to the sun so he can feed of the solar energy and become stronger and beat the crap out of them.... he did it to darksied, wonder woman, and he tried to do it to doomsday... so I think that if he did the same thing to goku... goku would obviously lose since he needs air to breath.. it's pretty much as simple as that...

Originally posted by Illustrious
Supes is easily as fast if not faster than Goku, especially since IT requires locking on and takes a bit to initiate.

The only exception to the IT rule was in the pseudocanon movie.

By the pseudocanon movie do you meen movie 6 coolers revenge?

You do know, that Broly destroyed the south galaxy, right ?

he certainly did... but he's not goku......

I mean pre-crisis supes juggled solar systems.... but it doesn'tmatter much since he doesn't do that anymore.

Can't an ssj4 goku kill broly with ease ?