Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Guys this is getting a bit overboard now... I hope Dave sees this and moves this topic posthaste...Oh BTW, not taking sides or anything, but Radits did catch a bullet in the Anime... just sayng
One, it wasn't like he caught machine gun fire. 😕 I really was just proving that WW has speed though, because he was trying to say that she's slow.
Originally posted by Illustrious
I love how he attempts to discredit people who are simply better debaters than he is.I dare him to come to the SW Versus forum, when he meats people like Nai, Fishy, Faunus, Deus, Darkstar and myself, I'd like to see what he does then, attempt to discredit all of them for being "childish"?
What's SW mean? 😕
It means Star Wars...
Originally posted by dvampire
One, it wasn't like he caught machine gun fire. 😕 I really was just proving that WW has speed though, because he was trying to say that she's slow.
Now, I know that Raditz never fended off Automatic Fire onscreen, he only caught a single bullet from a farmers Hunting Rifle... I was saying though that he did "Catch a Bullet" which goes against what you said in "No, Manga feats don't count", in this case, it was an anime feat...
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
It means Star Wars...Now, I know that Raditz never fended off Automatic Fire onscreen, he only caught a single bullet from a farmers Hunting Rifle... I was saying though that he did "Catch a Bullet" which goes against what you said in "No, Manga feats don't count", in this case, it was an anime feat...
Yes, Raditz did catch a bullet, but then again, Superman just lets them bounce off of him.
And that feat where Diana protects the old man and catches a barrage of bullets is absolutely one of the most impressive feats I've seen from a DC Earth character, as is Supes phasing through Doomsday's blast.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
It means Star Wars...Now, I know that Raditz never fended off Automatic Fire onscreen, he only caught a single bullet from a farmers Hunting Rifle... I was saying though that he did "Catch a Bullet" which goes against what you said in "No, Manga feats don't count", in this case, it was an anime feat...
I never said manga feats don't count (that's the original source of information and where I get my proof from, because they don't have mistakes like the US anime does). 😕 I said movies and fillers don't count. I'm only using feats from the anime as long as it's true to what happened in the manga. Sorry if you misunderstood me though. 🙂
*Thumbs up*
I still think this topic should be moved though... there doesn't seem to be any correlation to the video games here whatsoever....
Ah, Never mind... myabe I'm the one that screwed up somewhere.... and I can't be bothered going back to find out 9Still cleaning my eyes with sulphuric acid after the last run)
No, there really isn't. But this is pretty much the third fiddle versus forum. The comic book character takes precedence, those that involve a Star Wars character gets moved their automatically, while those that involve unrelated characters, be it from the CBversus or the SWversus, also get moved here. It seems this is the forum where they dump old versus threads.
I agree, this argument isn't going anywhere. I'd love for the other side to concede in the face of evidence, logic, and reason, but DBZ seems to produce an endless well of fanboys.
Only because there isn't any other form of continuity. As bad as the continuity in the comic books are, no one is going to argue that Batman can take Spectre, for example.
If you can objectively put DBZ in context, you shouldn't have a problem with these threads. It's more the people that don't know about the things they are debating against and can not put things in context that brings trouble.
In that, you might as well say crossover topics bring trouble.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroHonestly?
Meh, merely commenting on the picture shown is all 😛
I was just using that oppertunity to show off a picture of a high showing of my favorite Marvel character.
No way in hell she'd be able to come anywhere near these two at present. . .
But who knows what the future truly holds? One chain of two different convergent theories might place her at being able to take either of these two. . . But most likely that'll never happen. 🙂
Hmm... This is a very popular debate. Most fans of US comics of course will hate Goku and say Superman would win but I think there is much proof that Goku can definetly take out Superman. Goku is insanely powerful after all and He is easily as fast and strong as Superman just being at the first level of SSJ. Not to mention Goku is a Much better fighter than Superman as well and has shown much more insane displays of power than Supes. Seeing as you guys are just kinda loungin around now, I guess I'll stop myself from making a long post. But Supes cant beat Goku, Infact I doubt many characters can, Toriyama sensei made Goku pretty much a god.
Originally posted by 50YEN
Hmm... This is a very popular debate. Most fans of US comics of course will hate Goku and say Superman would win but I think there is much proof that Goku can definetly take out Superman. Goku is insanely powerful after all and He is easily as fast and strong as Superman just being at the first level of SSJ. Not to mention Goku is a Much better fighter than Superman as well and has shown much more insane displays of power than Supes. Seeing as you guys are just kinda loungin around now, I guess I'll stop myself from making a long post. But Supes cant beat Goku, Infact I doubt many characters can, Toriyama sensei made Goku pretty much a god.
Where were you when we proved the exact opposite of what you're saying now? Consider clicking on every image link throughout just this last two pages and you'll see feats Goku could dream of.
Originally posted by 50YENWould you mind sharing this mthyical proof with the rest of the class?
I think there is much proof that Goku can definetly take out Superman.
No one else seems to want to do this. We've layed the proof of Superman's feats out on the table, and as it stands so far Superman is Stronger, Faster, more durable and has greater stamina than Goku.
Originally posted by 50YEN
Hmm... This is a very popular debate. Most fans of US comics of course will hate Goku and say Superman would win but I think there is much proof that Goku can definetly take out Superman. Goku is insanely powerful after all and He is easily as fast and strong as Superman just being at the first level of SSJ. Not to mention Goku is a Much better fighter than Superman as well and has shown much more insane displays of power than Supes. Seeing as you guys are just kinda loungin around now, I guess I'll stop myself from making a long post. But Supes cant beat Goku, Infact I doubt many characters can, Toriyama sensei made Goku pretty much a god.
And you just made yourself sound like a fanboy, if you've took a look through this whole thread, you'll know that Goku doesn't stand a chance and that Superman's feats beat every single DBZ/GT characters. 🙄 😕 😄
Originally posted by dvampire
How is Goku going to hurt Superman when he could barly push a moutain apart inssj2 or ssj4 when he struggled with pushing a building in place and having trouble lifting people on a small rock? Superman whould destroy Goku in a sec.Here's ssj2 Goku struggling to push a moutain apart, something Superman was doing ten years ago.
http://myfavoritegames.com/dragonball-z/Media/Video_Clips/VideoClips.htm
Here's Superman's feats.
Supes is using his Heat Vision to get the foe off of him.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5001/supes8cz.jpg
Supes shoots a beam of low-intensity Heat Vision at the Moon. People in the watch tower was blinded except for Plastic Man cause sense he had shades on. The Moon is very far from Earth, this shows the range Supes Heat Vision has.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9708/supermansheatvision24vv.jpg
In this pic it shows that Supes Heat Vision stated by them, "his vision is off the charts by any standard scientific measures". They can measure how hot a star is, but they cannot measure the temp of Supermans Heat Vision.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/863/supermansheatvision30nk.jpg
In this pic his power is waning under a red sun, but he still summoned enough Heat Vision to successfully power Jor-ELs planet-moving ion engines. The in this case had a mass 16 times that of Earth's.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6824/supermansheatvision17gy.jpg
In this pic, Superman is flying by the sun to stop the Cannabal planet from destroying the sun. This also prove that Supes is able to blow up a planet aswell. He also heated up a plaent with his Heat Vision before too.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7923/supermansheatvison2np.jpg
Superman calculating the guys melting point. Wich also shows how much he holds back with his Heat Vision, to keep from killing his foes.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8360/08222005124926pm7ji.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3679/08222005125029pm5zg.jpg
Supes just spraying this guy with Heat Vision. If he wanted to, he could kill Goku easily with Heat Vision, without even letting him even breath.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1535/0822311an.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1271/0822323nz.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3776/0822338uf.jpg
Superman can also blind his opponent or just lobotimize his foe with Heat Vision. If he was fighting to kill without holding back there's no telling what he'll do.
Here's proof that Supes is light speed, and is far faster than any DBZ/GT character.
Superman catching bullets with little effort. This is something the DBZ/Gt characters can do also though.
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/7786/08222005050314pm5fl.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/530/supermancatchingbullets2ww.jpg
Here's Superman reading at high speeds (something Goku or any of the DBZ/GT characters ever done).
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4955/superman1451ba.jpg
Superman fighting at high speeds.
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4530/08222005115613am7bx.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/679/08222005124311pm3un.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/9203/pics0017bn.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/4214/superman20speed20vs20mongul202.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9558/supermanandmongul8pr.jpg
Here's Superman vibrating (phasing) his body so fast that hes going right through Doomsday Lightning/Fire Breath. This is proof that hes far faster than any DBZ/GT character.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1971/supermanfast3ar.jpg
Here's Superman vibrating his body invisible now, something they also can't do either.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/553/supermaninvisible44zc.jpg
Here's Superman calculating how fast to go on Earths Surface in populated areas. He also plug Lois them ears with cotton while he flew through.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9101/0869a916yt.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/704/08222005052719pm2ys.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/8281/08222005052832pm2wo.jpg
Lois asks Superman for Champagne from another contry, and by the time she finishes her short sentence, Supes already got it, and has been waiting for a while.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/5899/supespeed6kt.jpg
Superman traveling at high speeds in space.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1831/supermanhaulingassagain37xc.jpg
Superman heres GL (Kyle) about a million miles away from Earth in bed, and he gets there in seconds.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1954/08222005054558pm3oy.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/2785/08222005054722pm5jq.jpg
Here's Superman taking Darksied to the sun in seconds. It takes light 8 minutes to get from Earth to the Sun.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5590/darksiedbeaten7sq.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6573/darksiedbeaten25ph.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/192/supermanbatman13pg08097cu.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1609/supermanbatman13pg109es.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5647/supermanbatman13pg114cl.jpg
Superman is far stronger too, as is always holding back. Superman hits Lobo from Earth into orbit, Lobo stats that if he doesn't stop himself that he'll spend the next century obitting around the planet.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4643/supeslobo0uo.jpg
Superman and G. Zod blows are so devastating that they are creating earthquakes and the planet is falling apart. And he was still holding back while fighting under a red sun.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9351/08302005032341pm7oo.jpg
Here's Supes when hes done pulling his punches.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3613/cy14oq.jpg
Here's Superman holding a black hole in the palm of his hand for a while.
Which makes him far stronger than than Goku.http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9199/supermanblackhole0015ak.jpg
Here's Superman taking several particle beams.
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/60/09122118lq.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3651/durability55et.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3443/09131329ai.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/4640/durability20ki.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/1761/durability35ln.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9263/211117fk.jpg
Superman taking a blast equal to a million nuclear blasts.
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/850/0822346hj.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3932/08222005121910pm8yp.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/6301/089054127na.jpg
Superman surviving the destruction of a sun eater at ground zero. The sun eater is an enormously energetic cloud that literally eats both the energy and mass of whole stars. The sun eater was considerably larger than a star, had been in existence for millenia and had consumed the energy of many stars by travelling from galaxy to galaxy. Which proves that he's far more durable than any DBZ/GT character.
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/7467/09122005080012pm3uo.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/4746/09122005080419pm3ri.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/7775/durability49cp.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/851/durability11pn.jpg
Here's Superman actually escaping a double black hole (which beats every feat ssj3/4 Goku or any DBZ/GT character has ever done), this proves his strength, speed, and durability.
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/4198/untitled128qt3bk.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5858/untitled138wy8fy.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5207/untitled140kt3ew.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/938/untitled152oe8eq.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/8946/untitled166ov4wo.jpg
Superman has ssj3/4 Goku in strength, speed, durability, and stamina. Goku loses.
🙂 🙂
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I saw someone mention Supes can't survive a nuke?Here is supes surviving an island destroying nuke at ground zero WHILE laying in kryptonite AND weakened from fighting multiple enemies for days. He comes out unfazed.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/supesnuke.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/supesnuke2.jpg
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Supes catching a moon sized ship in travel and tossing it casually...http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/moonmover.jpg
