Evangel94's Amalgam Tournament [Phase 2] {ROUND 3} [SPECIAL EDITION] (Vote now!)

i think we all know he can't accomplish trion juggs, so that's beside the point.

digi, storm has affected the inside of a skin-tight shield before, doing it again would be no problem. i can turn the shield into lightning, you could try to turn it back, but it will be very hard when it turns instantley into your biggest weakness. after that. i instantley teleport you into the center of the inside of our battlefield and turn everything into a mix of water and electricity, it will be very hard to turn everything back considering you will be in severe pain and you are weakening. if you manage to get back up from that then i conjure up the monster than killed the three people that hold reality together- ibis, Tim Ravenwind, and Dr. Thirteen. then i conjure up some dragons that are made of lightning, i turn the air around you ino lightning, and if you put up another shield i will turn that into lightning. i can control and exploit your weakness w/ a thought, it will be easy to continue this process.

also i can call upon the powers of the lords of order, and the lords of magic to defeat you.

"Trion Juggernaut? I still don't believe it. A day isn't that long...and you wouldn't be that powerful. And while none of us have our 'speedsters' minds, Loki is much more used to high speeds than Dr. Fate and Dr. Druid. I can handle Apollo's speed. Fate, on the other hand, will be lucky not to fly himself into the nearest sun. Your control over your speed will be lacking, and I'll materialize behind and rip Juggernaut's helmet off. Fate isn't even remotely familiar wit the magic of Cyttorak, so it'll take him forever to master Juggs' magic and become Trion or whatever it is you're trying to fo. Then with the helmet off I'll mind-rape him with telepathy...and with Juggernaut's body you don't get Fate's helmet...so that ends that."

First of all....its not that hard to belileve...with info on juggs magic....and cyttorack....and 25 hours...with juggernaut being part of him....just his regular magical awarness would effect juggys power level...and the only reason why juggy is not very powerful...is becaue he doesnt noe shit about magic...with fate already so knowledgleble about magic....taping into juggys power isnt that hard...and remember this is fate X 10....meaning he has a lot of knowledge and immence pwer..then with practice and 25 hrs of pure concentration and stranges info on cyttorack...its very very much possible...then also...all of the other charecters..maintain the speed of their charecter and the power to control that speed...and because one cannot, in reality, move faster then the mind tells one to...when you use ones speed then i think its a given that u get the power to control it

Teleport me? No thanks. I can teleport myself...I don't really appreciate others trying to do it for me ("trying" is the operative word there, by the way). Turn my own magic into lightning? Again, that's seems like an awful stretch...not only are you assuming that your magic is stronger, but you also assume you could superimpose Zatanna's will onto my own magic. Dragons made of lightning? I thought I was the only one using dragons. I might just haev to turn them into people who look like Batman, so Zatanna will become romantically distracted, giving me an opening. Still, and outside force like the dragons would be going through my armor and shielding, and while I'm doing stuff to you too, it's doubtful you'd have the concentration needed to keep them going.

-DM

Originally posted by gautam
First of all....its not that hard to belileve...with info on juggs magic....and cyttorack....and 25 hours...with juggernaut being part of him....just his regular magical awarness would effect juggys power level...and the only reason why juggy is not very powerful...is becaue he doesnt noe shit about magic...with fate already so knowledgleble about magic....taping into juggys power isnt that hard...and remember this is fate X 10....meaning he has a lot of knowledge and immence pwer..then with practice and 25 hrs of pure concentration and stranges info on cyttorack...its very very much possible...then also...all of the other charecters..maintain the speed of their charecter and the power to control that speed...and because one cannot, in reality, move faster then the mind tells one to...when you use ones speed then i think its a given that u get the power to control it

Fate has only ever controlled Chaos/Order magic. Convince me that he'd have any sort of control over Cyttoak's magic and then we'll talk. And a day of research will do nothing. Guys like Strange study for a lifetime to have a good grasp of this stuff...after only one day Fate won't even know who Cyttorak is.

-DM

"if you say that zatanna isn't close to your magic, then you shouldn't even be here because that is seriously waaaaaay off. laughable. zatanna can do anything she wants by thinking about it, that is literally her power. anything you throw at me my shield will absorb, i can simply tuen your magical creatures to water then separate their elements through electrolysis. you have juggernauts body, he has a heart and a brain. you have no defense against me shutting down your heart and frying your brain."
If you think that your magic cannot be undone by Fate X10 by himself...ure way off....not even including cyttoracks power....zattana must concentrate very hard to get something done...very hard when illusions are coming at you from all directions...in this time when ure distracted...D.CK...come up to ure sheilds..and hits it with trion juggy punch at light speed...no sheild is going to withstand that....once thats down...1 or two magical bolts and ure dead...

Fate has only ever controlled Chaos/Order magic. Convince me that he'd have any sort of control over Cyttoak's magic and then we'll talk. And a day of research will do nothing. Guys like Strange study for a lifetime to have a good grasp of this stuff...after only one day Fate won't even know who Cyttorak is.

he has access to all of stranges life time of research...he could learn everything that strange has....and second of....learning another type of magic isnt impossible...especialy when you know how that persons magic works, thanks to stranges books. there is not one peice of evidence showing he cant do this....he is a very powerful magician...and learning what strange has puts him and strange on the same level...and strange most certainly can use cyttoracks magic...then so can fate...especialy after he has 10X more power and control

guantam , zatanna is already more powerful than fate, it's just fate x 10. i'm not impressed when i can invoke the powers of the lords of order, and the lords of magic into me. and concentrate very hard to get something done? lol try just a thought lol. i have a cosmic awareness and i can use zatannas power to tell me which one is the real one. and my shield will just absorb the impact, you won't hurt me. and you aren't trion juggs, stop boasting about how powerful you are when in reality you aren't. besides, you stil have a body that has a heart and a mind. i can just fry your brain, and/or shut-down your heart.

digi, zatannas power is to do anything, and with the lords of magic and lords of order it would be no problem teleporting you and doing my atack. i can turn your shield to lightning, easy. once the dragons are there, i don't need to concentrate on them, thy will focus on attacking you as i conjured them up to. you could turn them into a person, but i could turn them back. right after i once again turn your shield to lightning.

how will fate even know it is cyttoracks magic? i also have all of strenges knowlege.

So...could Zatanna beat Galactus?

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Ok...some work to do:

KVD: Crimson Bands of Cytorrak? Teleport out of them. You're assuming I'd try to break them physically. There goes that strategy. That's about the only new thing you've tried.

-DM

You can't teleport out of the bands, otherwise don't you think Galactus and the other numerous magic users that Strange has used the bands on would have teleported out of them. There goes your way out, which means you're out of the fight. 😱

Alright this is how it will go because people except Digi seemed to have ignored my previous plan maybe because they probably don't have an adequate defense for it....

Right at the start of the fight I conjure the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak while flying at superspeed just like everyone else. The bands appear out of nowhere so it doesn't have to chase anyone that's moving and you can't teleport out of the bands - otherwise they'd be considered a poor binding spell against Galactus and the numerous magic users that Strange has fought - and none of them were able to teleport out of it. The bands will hold everyone in place, not being able to move, shoot or make any kind of gesture. Trying to break out of the bands physically is near impossible, unless you're more powerful than Galactus. So while you're all unable to move I fly at warp/FTL speed gaining near-infinite mass, all the while covered in a skintight reinforced cosmic/mystic shield to add to my 10x durability, and my axe has been powered up to maximum via the power upgrade and also coated in the magical energies of the Darkhold. I turn my attention to...

Dr Ethan Vell
No doubt he'll have his cosmic shields up thanks to his Negabands and some meager magical shields due to Druid's magic, and he'll be counting on Supreme's increased durability but these shields will be mowed down by my concentrated "cannonball" attack, sharpened to a pinpoint. Shielding from Negabands? I have the power cosmic and axe. Magical shielding? I have greater Darkhold magic. Your cosmic awareness will see me coming, and you can release all the light from your Negabands if you'd like, it'll do nothing. Once I pierce your outer shielding, I'm slicing right into you and even with your increased toughness, my amplified axe coated in magic is slicing into your chest without any problems. You're dead now. So next I fly into...

Norrin Bruce Emerson
Similar to Ethan Vell, he'll have his cosmic shields up thanks to Surfer's cosmic power. What's different though, is that he doesn't have any magical shielding, which wouldn't have mattered anyway. Your only defense is your increased durability with Hulk and Surfer providing this. I have no doubt that my attack with have so much momentum and power that even if I don't cut into your skin, which I'm sure I would, I'm knocking you out with sheer force because my attack is aimed towards the back of your head. Dead or knocked out, you're out of the fight for now. Next victim is...

General Kinky
Though trapped by the bands I expect Kinky to use his magic to cast illusions and his telepathy to attack me. However, I'm telepathically shielded two ways so that'll be a futile effort. Casting illusions will be pointless as I'll see right through them and I won't be focused on them anyway. And I also expect you to struggle against the Crimson Bands but it'll be wasted energy. Even if Loki can make real dragons, their power is nothing compared to Morgred. Of course, Kinky will be shielded via Loki's magic, that combined with Supreme's durability and Zod's armor, it presents a defense that might be difficult to pierce. I could run into you at full speed but seeing as I've already used that strategy on someone else, I'll do something different. Just before I make contact with you, I'm phasing out and sticking a foot into your chest and solidifying it. The resulting shock will give you a heart attack or kill you. You're out of the fight. Next is...

Dr Kain Kallark
I'm going to plow right into the side of your head at full warp speed. I don't expect this to KO you because of Dr Fate's increased magic, Gladiator's durability and Juggernaut's power. Granted, I don't even know if the crimson bands will hold you for long if at all. And if it doesn't I expect that you'll attack those who have been trapped and unable to move, turning your attention to me when you see me gunning for you. However with both our increased speed, I see this turning into a donnybrook. Morgred's telepathy and magic is going to sense your increased magical powers so fighting you on that arena will, admittedly, be a losing effort on my part. What tips it in my favor though is that Mordred, being raised in medieval times, is more adept at hand-to-hand than Dr Fate is. And with Fate's power being increased, it means that Gladiator and Juggernaut's stay the same, now when compared to Morg's power, which has been increased ten times over, you'll last about 0.006 nanoseconds against me in a fist fight. That, plus I have greater telepathy which will prevent you from effectively using any magic against me. One hit from me and you're out. I turn my attention to...

Hurricane
If she wasn't taken out by the Darkhold, after absorbing everything in Dr Strange's lab, she'll still be bound by the Crimson Bands, which means she's a sitting duck while I figure out how to fight her. Binary's increased power and strength will do little against the bands. Bloodstorm's magic, though considerable, still pales in comparison to the magic of the elder god Chthon. Morgred will be dealing with the mind of a teenager so outsmarting her will be relatively easy. But, trapped and unable to move, I'll end it quickly with a Darkhold spell that turns her insides out. I win.

One at a time please...there's enough time for me to kick all of your faces in...hehe.

KVD: No teleport? Ok, fine.
A. I can still attack you magically. It'll disrupt your concentration.
B. There's 7 of us in this battle. Do you really think I'll let you wrap me in the bands, let you kill me, and nothing else will happen to your character during that time? Good luck keeping your concentration for the bands with not just me but 6 others waging a battle.
C. Phase into me? Cute, but I can phase too.
D. I'm still better in sheer magical and physical force

Gautam: Yes, Fate has access to all of Strange's books....For A Day! Besides the fact that Cyttorak's magical books are likely to be written in a differnt language, a language Fate won't know, a day is nothing compared to how long it takes to master any magical discipline. At the end of 1 day you might know that Cyttorak exists, but you'll have no idea how to use his magic. And other than that, you're just a regular joe who I can whale on like anyone else. And Fate still won't be anywhere near used to Gladiator's speeds. You'll be one of the most confused-looking brawlers ever.

SF: Zatanna's power is to "do anything"??? Why hasn't she single-handedly saved the DC Universe every time there's trouble? Why has she ever been beaten? ...Because she CAN'T do anything. Saying it and doing it are 2 very different things. You have a good control over magic...that's it. So do most of the other amalgams in this tourney. You won't be able to superimpose your magic over mine or anyone else's (well, maybe Druid...hehe). And sure Zatanna has a few decent feats, but if she has anywhere near the powers you accredit to her, she'd be much more powerful. And Loki and the rest of the magical gang here have plenty of 'feats' too. So skin-tight shield, internal matter control, armor and magic shields to protect from outside forces, and you have no good way of getting to me.

...should be about it. Nat hasn't posted in a while, Sentry's gone, and no one else is doing much.

-DM

Originally posted by Khellendros
And, uhh, holy CRAP. Can the rest of us take our hours' worth of prep time in one of those places for the rest of this tournament?

This is from page 1, but Evangel please say no to this...that bastard Majestic could make an anti-other-people-ray or some stupid sh*t. Seriously, we'd all be screwed (nice try though Khell).

After this, hopefully it goes back to 1 hour prep in a neutral environment.

-DM

Just to clarify:

You do not get the actual mystic sanctum Dr. Strange's, or laboratory of Dr. Doom or Reed nor do you receive any of their inventions.

You receive basic prep time equipment equal to that of Dr. Doom/Reed Richards lab. General Equipment. Nothing Specific. Same goes for the mystic lab. You get general equipment for any high level mystic of Dr. Strange's caliber. Common books and spells unless you specificy EXACTLY what you use. You must also specify what you do in prep-time and WHAT you use to accomplish it.

Bad Example:
I create an impenetrable shield of mystic power which no physical strength can break through.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
KVD: No teleport? Ok, fine.
A. I can still attack you magically. It'll disrupt your concentration.
B. There's 7 of us in this battle. Do you really think I'll let you wrap me in the bands, let you kill me, and nothing else will happen to your character during that time? Good luck keeping your concentration for the bands with not just me but 6 others waging a battle.
C. Phase into me? Cute, but I can phase too.
D. I'm still better in sheer magical and physical force

-DM

Attack me magically with what time? A fraction of a nanosecond that the bands appear, you're having a heart attack. It doesn't matter if you're concentrating on me at the start or if your attention is diverted to another character. I'm going to be well shielded at the start of the fight - magically, telepathically, physically, intangible, invisible, teleporting and moving at FTL speed. That's the beauty of having the bands, you're all sitting ducks, unable to do anything but wait to die. You're not "letting" me wrap you in the bands, the bands appear out of nowhere at the start of the fight, you won't even know that the crimson band spell was cast until it's too late - you can't run, fly or hide - the bands are getting you right away. And I don't have to concentrate to keep the bands on you, it's not a GL ring. Once it's cast properly, it stays that way. You can't phase while held by the bands, or else other magic users would have done that against Strange. Your "sheer magical and physical force" won't be of any use to you when you're in cardiac arrest.

Every time I've seen the bands (i.e. when Strange does it) as soon as he stops concentrating they become weaker and are able to be broken. Namor broke them once like this...so did Hulk. I'm stronger than either of them were (I suppose Hulk could theoretically be stronger but he wasn't when that happened). As soon as you stop concentrating (6 at the same time in the first place is a stretch) I'll be able to easily break free. They were only 'unbreakable' when Strange was concentrating. More than a few of the other amalgams have ranged attacks, so if you put us in bands, we're all going to focus on you. 5-6 telepaths, planet-destroying energy, intense magical bolts...you won't have your concentration, let alone your shields and your life, for long. And in the meantime, I can phase and/or work my own magic to weaken the bands, etc. Getting out won't be hard.

-DM

First, I'd question whether KVD can actually use the Crimson Bands... Cuz Mordred uses power solely from the Darkhold. It takes a lot to use the Bands, I think the only people to have done so successfully are Strange and Cytorrak himself. (Doom tried and failed badly) Also, Galactus doesn't use magic...

Secondly, I think stormfront is greatly overrating Zatanna. Because if she can do everything you say (matter manipulation on a magic forcefield?) she'd easily destroy basically any threat in an instant. Also, I doubt whether storm could project lightning inside of someone with only a day of practice. She had claustrophobia for quite a while cuz she couldn't use all of her powers indoors...
And Juggernaut definitely doesn't need a heart or actual brain to live.

Hehe...thanks there Dizzle. I'm pretty sure my arguments were enough to cast doubt on KVD's strategy, but that just adds a little more to think about.

-DM

P.S. Just getting an insane thought...how crazy would it have been if the tourney was just one month-long battle royal with 10 people? It would have been way too confusing, but fun as hell....probably a good thing we didn't do it though.

Originally posted by K Von Doom
Norrin Bruce Emerson
Similar to Ethan Vell, he'll have his cosmic shields up thanks to Surfer's cosmic power. What's different though, is that he doesn't have any magical shielding, which wouldn't have mattered anyway. Your only defense is your increased durability with Hulk and Surfer providing this. I have no doubt that my attack with have so much momentum and power that even if I don't cut into your skin, which I'm sure I would, I'm knocking you out with sheer force because my attack is aimed towards the back of your head. Dead or knocked out, you're out of the fight for now. Next victim is...

Sorry bro, not gonna happen. Hulk, Damage AND Surfer. Damage takes shots from guys like Metallo and just gets stronger. I'm not gonna be K.O.ed, the only thing in this tourney that stands a chance against me is high level telapthy or magic.