Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I'm sure the world's hotdog eating champ has made a name for himself too but I doubt Doom would care about him.
Turning your back on a guy like that, is retarded. Doom or no Doom.
Am I saying Punisher could win ? Hell no. Just trying to put things in perspective.
Originally posted by bakerboyWell I think the truth is pretty obvious, but Tron doesn't want to read anything more about this, so no comment.
Trolling is what you are doing, posting a lot of insults and personal offenses without sense in a forum to talk and discuss about battles between comic characters. This isnt the place for that, so , you are the one who is trolling.
And i post that doom is overrated in his topics because I THINK IT. that my opinion. Maybe wrong? ok, but its my opinion. And its based in his battles in the comics.
Yet you totally ignore his achievements, and label him overrated, and his fans as fanboys, just because you don't like him.
Ok, as i have posted, i didnt remember well some of the people who was there and, off course, less the order of the battle. But it isnt important. What is important is that Thanos used more power to blast cap's shield,because its ovious, what is more durable? the aleanation of adamantium and vibranium of cap's shield or doom armor. Its pretty ovious that the shield. So, its ovious to think that thanos used more power to destroy the shield, if he would used the same power with doom than with the shield, doom would be totally destroyed.
So Doom's armour vs. Cap's shield...IG wasn't the first time his shield had been shattered. It happened in Secret Wars, too. Who was the star of that story arc? Though my memory is foggy, and I will venture refresh it this evening.
Its curious than doom fanboys always bring that thing and always forget that doom himself said in the fantastic four series than iron man's weapons were more powerful than his blasters and weapons.
And it's convenient that you TOTALLY ignore the issue...we're not talking about 'blasters and weapons', we're talking about armour.
*More incessant whining about fighting ability*
See above note.
Dude, the same from your part. All what you posted isnt based in any true fact or with coherent or rational arguments, only in your guess and supositions. nothing solid or true. Mixed with tons of bad education and childish insults. And that is respectable? You must be joking.
No, it's based on logic, knowledge, and experience.
But doom said too that iron man armor and weapons were far superior
When? You didn't mention anything about IM's armour being superior in your earlier paragraph.
Well I think the truth is pretty obvious, but Tron doesn't want to read anything more about this, so no comment.
Yes, i think also that its pretty obvious.
Yet you totally ignore his achievements, and label him overrated, and his fans as fanboys, just because you don't like him.
You wrong, i like him because he is my favourite villain, but im not blind and i dont overrated him like many people do. I never overrated a character because that is typical in fanboys. My favourite heroes are batman, spider man and iron man, but superman, hulk or thor could kick their assess 9 times of 10. I dont overrated a character because they are my favourite ones.
So Doom's armour vs. Cap's shield...IG wasn't the first time his shield had been shattered. It happened in Secret Wars, too. Who was the star of that story arc? Though my memory is foggy, and I will venture refresh it this evening.
You are confusing terms again, but all of this could be resumed in something very easy. IF you say that doom armor is more durable than cap shield, so you dont know anything about comics. So simple like that. Because cap shield is made of a unique aleation who wasnt never copied and its one of the most powerful things of earth, made by the two most powerful metals on comics, adamantium and bivranium. Cap shield has stood even against thor hammer and its rays, doom armor was damaged by luke cage and beast nude fists. Simple and clear.
And it's convenient that you TOTALLY ignore the issue...we're not talking about 'blasters and weapons', we're talking about armour.
It was a fantastic number, i dont remember the exact number, i think that it was 200 or 300 something. It had the thing in his spike form, mis marvel in thing form, black panther and the x men. It was the same number that beast damaged doom armor with his fists and legs. Doom captured ms marvel and beast and he said that iron man weapons were more powerful than his. Could you give some detals about the issue when iron man said that doom amor was better than his?
No, it's based on logic, knowledge, and experience.
I didnt read any logiv or knowlegde or experience. You didnt poste any concret number or fact to proove your opinons. The only concrete reference was about the secret wars, and you said that cap shield was destroyed in it and doom was the star of it, what isnt related and doesnt make any sense.
When? You didn't mention anything about IM's armour being superior in your earlier paragraph.
Doom said exactly that iron man repulsor rays and weapons were more powerful than his own weapons. Weapons are a great part of the armor, i think. But , anyway, we have the proof of that very clearly. Terrax blasters damaged serioulsy dooms armor, iron man armor stood very well the same blasters. I think that its a very clear proof.
Originally posted by bakerboyIt is, indeed.
Yes, i think also that its pretty obvious.
You wrong, i like him because he is my favourite villain, but im not blind and i dont overrated him like many people do. I never overrated a character because that is typical in fanboys. My favourite heroes are batman, spider man and iron man, but superman, hulk or thor could kick their assess 9 times of 10. I dont overrated a character because they are my favourite ones.
So who is overrating Doom? In this thread, prior to you announcing that Doom was overrated, was anyone overrating him at all? Aside from a few people joking around.
so you dont know anything about comics.
Stop with the childish insults. rolleyes1
It was a fantastic number, i dont remember the exact number, i think that it was 200 or 300 something. It had the thing in his spike form, mis marvel in thing form, black panther and the x men. It was the same number that beast damaged doom armor with his fists and legs. Doom captured ms marvel and beast and he said that iron man weapons were more powerful than his.
Weapons...I'm not talking about weapons. I know weapons are a part of amour in the greater sense, but when I refer to armour, I speak in terms of defense and durability only.
You didnt poste any concret number or fact to proove your opinons.
Like you did? "Fantastic Four 200 or 300 something". Real concrete.
Could you give some detals about the issue when iron man said that doom amor was better than his?
Iron Man #98.
Doom said exactly that iron man repulsor rays and weapons were more powerful than his own weapons. Weapons are a great part of the armor, i think. But , anyway, we have the proof of that very clearly. Terrax blasters damaged serioulsy dooms armor, iron man armor stood very well the same blasters. I think that its a very clear proof.
Like I said, I understand that weapons and repulsor rays, etc, are all part of the armour, but I speak in terms of durability only. Perhaps you misunderstood. It's fine and dandy that Terrax was able to damage Doom's armour, and not Iron Man's. It's only a valid comparison if the conditions of the fights were the same. Were the blasts they received similar in intensity? Was Doom's forcefield even on? There are many little microscopic details that need to be carefully examined when comparing the toughness of the two armours.
Doom clearly has the bigger brain of the two, and is equipped with an outstanding forcefield, the logical conclusion one can draw is that his armour is stronger. He stood up to a DIRECT blast from Thanos w/IG, whether Iron Man can do it remains questionable...especially since someone can yank his head right off his shoulders with relative ease.
Originally posted by who?-kid
That's a lame argument. Punisher is one of the most lethal men without superpowers in the Marvel Universe. Maybe the most deadly, I don't know, but he's up there, in the top five.Turning your back on a guy like that, is retarded. Doom or no Doom.
Am I saying Punisher could win ? Hell no. Just trying to put things in perspective.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
yes DNA can be referred to in terms of single molecules. 😛
Originally posted by bakerboy
Tron, what the hell are you talking about? What the hell im doing? Im only posting my opinon and my points of view with education, mehanwhile that guy is only posting insults and personal offenses. I didnt play his game and i wont, so , why are you warning me? Its ridiculous.Im only here to discuss the battles, not for play child games like that other guy.
What are you doing? You're continuing to go at it with Lord S, which I already warned both of you about, and I'm doing again, for the last time. Anything else you have to say to each other which has nothing to do with this thread, pm each other with it, don't bring it in here. Once again, that your last warning. So we're dropping it, and continuing. Let this be where it ends, don't comment back on it, just squash it.
Regarding the second wave of attacks upon Thanos in the Infinity Gauntlet series, Thanos fought and defeated two Celestials, Galactus, Lord Chaos and Master Order, and several other cosmically powerful beings simultaneously, primarily from the force of gigantic blasts that devastated a vast radius of space.
My point is this- clearly, the blast used on Doom earlier was not Thanos' most powerful blast but a weaker one. Why he didn't kill Doom in one blast, however, is not as clear. Perhaps it was quick, muddled thinking, or perhaps he wanted to toy with him more. Thanos had only powered down enough to give the heroes a .005% chance of winning, as he himself stated to Mephisto.
Originally posted by Swanky-TunaWow, a year and a half.
But DNA is strands of protein isn't it? Either more or less than just a molecule, I forget which.
Nah, it's strands of nucleotides that make up DNA. Protein is amino acids. They're macromolecules, but they're still molecules - if that makes any sense e.g. you can have a hemoglobin molecule composed of amino acid molecules.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Wow, a year and a half.Nah, it's strands of nucleotides that make up DNA. Protein is amino acids. They're macromolecules, but they're still molecules - if that makes any sense e.g. you can have a hemoglobin molecule composed of amino acid molecules.
OK. I'm not taking sides in this apparent mismatch, but consider this -
- THIS MATCHUP HAS HAPPENED.
Way back in Marvel's crossover event in 1989 - Acts Of Vengence.
Loki duped several villains - Doom, Kingpin, Red Skull, Magneto & others - into pooling resources and switching opponents, to see if they could eliminate their rivals for good. On a bet with the Kingpin, Doom vowed to take down the Punisher. But, he was so overconfident he underestimated Frank several times, and Frank got to Latervia to force Doom off his back by using Doom's secret weapon against him - his brainwashed heir Krystof (who was actually ruling the country at the time.) So, Frank survived and Doom went back to the circle rationalizing what happened to the Kingpin.
Doom is a formidable foe, but being a genius egomaniac can be a weakness. Just food for thought. 😄
Re: The Punisher vs Dr.Doom
Originally posted by Zod4Life
This a real toughie but I have to give this one to the Punisher unless someone can convince me otherwise.
This is basically a carrot vs a blender, there is no debate who is going to win and anyone who suggests otherwise is completely retarded 😐