time travel confusing thingy

Originally posted by Evil Dead
they're not here using the terminology now, you are. I must say though........the physicists must not have been very intelligent if they never learned the defenition of "dimension", a basic mathamatical concept taught in every level of mathmatics from Geometry upward.

Everybody is free to believe as they wish........I just have a problem with people using the wrong terms in scientific discussion.......it makes them appear much less intelligent than they probably are. Science is about precision if nothing else.........all areas. How precisely can somebody have studied a subject if they don't even know the correct terminology.

If you take issue with "parallel universe," being synonymous with "alternate universe," and "alternate dimension," take it up with Dr. Bryce DeWitt and the subsequent quantum physcists who use these terms interchangeably.

Clearly, physicists such as Hugh Evertt, Ph.D., who developed the Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics, are unintelligent, and you know better than they do.

yes Atlantis it's beside the point.............doesn't change the fact that this guy uses terms to try to sound intelligent, yet uses them wrong.

so far in this thread all I've seen is you using the word "dimension" wrong Adam..........I've seen know links to online resources........nor even a specific publication mentioned where these great men who devote their life to science incorrectly use scientific and mathamatical terms. Quite frankly, I find it hard to take you at your word......and you provide no resources, not even a publication title. It's extremely hard to believe that I can take a couple years of physics courses........years ago.......and still know what terms mean and these men who have devoted their entire lives to the subject do not.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
yes Atlantis it's beside the point.............doesn't change the fact that this guy uses terms to try to sound intelligent, yet uses them wrong.

so far in this thread all I've seen is you using the word "dimension" wrong Adam..........I've seen know links to online resources........nor even a specific publication mentioned where these great men who devote their life to science incorrectly use scientific and mathamatical terms. Quite frankly, I find it hard to take you at your word......and you provide no resources, not even a publication title. It's extremely hard to believe that I can take a couple years of physics courses........years ago.......and still know what terms mean and these men who have devoted their entire lives to the subject do not.

Where are the links to online resources and specific publications from which you gathered your information? Oh, that is right, you did not provide any. But you did take "a couple of years of physics courses... years ago," making you a greater expert on physics and quantum mechanics then people with doctorates and Ph.D.s in the field.

The fact remains that the Many Worlds Interpretation of quantum mechanics allows for backward time travel. Even Atlantis001 is in agreement on this. You however, are in disagreement, and instead of addressing the arguments presented by the theory, have chosen to try to discredit them with semantics. If I were to edit my previous posts and substitute "parallel universe" in place of "alterante universe," and "alternate dimension," then where would your argument be?

#1.

Where are the links to online resources and specific publications from which you gathered your information? Oh, that is right, you did not provide any

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=dimension

'nuff said.

#2. back to the subject at hand............exactly how does the Many Worlds Interpretation of quantum mechanics allows for backward time travel? Please explain this to me. It allows for parallel travel, from one universe to another I know.........but how does it allow for you to travel from one universe to another universe......100 years earlier?

Originally posted by Evil Dead
#1.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=dimension

'nuff said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_dimension

In quantum mechanics, a parallel universe, also sometimes called an alternate universe, or an alternate dimension, is a hypothetical universe which exists separately from our own. Some theories of physics postulate the existence of many parallel universes, possibly even an infinite number. Depending on the details of the theory, these universes may or may not interact with each other. The word "multiverse" has been proposed to refer to the collection of all universes.

Enough said.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
#2. back to the subject at hand............exactly how does the Many Worlds Interpretation of quantum mechanics allows for backward time travel? Please explain this to me. It allows for parallel travel, from one universe to another I know.........but how does it allow for you to travel from one universe to another universe......100 years earlier?

Traveling from point A to point B is strictly interdimensional travel; Traveling from point A to point C, is both interdimensional and backward time travel:

that's all I was looking for............although odd in the diagram, both Universe's are connected with the same plane of time flowing through both......why is this?

where'd that diagram come from? That's the same as the old diagram showing how bending space can produce black holes through hyperspace, or worm holes, to travel to the other side of our universe....................I don't understand why universe 1 and 2 are connected on the right side of the diagram and actually flow into one another, with time aswell.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
that's all I was looking for............although odd in the diagram, both Universe's are connected with the same plane of time flowing through both......why is this?

where'd that diagram come from? That's the same as the old diagram showing how bending space can produce black holes through hyperspace, or worm holes, to travel to the other side of our universe....................I don't understand why universe 1 and 2 are connected on the right side of the diagram and actually flow into one another, with time aswell.

The diagram in question is one in a series illustrating time travel theories. Other diagrams in the series depict the multiverses joined as well, particularly the one that illustrates theoretical time travel through wormholes. My assumption is that the illustrator in question simply re-used the same model.

ah.......good deal.

link me please.........I want to see these, I'm interested in theories of the like.......

the only reason I brought up it being an old model is because in that diagram, the originator has both Universes existing on the same plane, one solid continuous plane that is doubled over. That's a great diagram for the old "bend space......double it over.....create a wormhole through hyper-space (or subspace).....emerge on the other side.....travel to the other side of the universe in a quick minute" theory................but I don't see how both Universe's could exist on the same plane...........and actually be connected physically. Like you could just get in a space ship and fly from one Universe to another ......like passing through counties on the interstate.

I suggest that would not be like a travelling to another parallel universe, but like a travelling to another region of the same universe. But I see your point.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
ah.......good deal.

link me please.........I want to see these, I'm interested in theories of the like.......

the only reason I brought up it being an old model is because in that diagram, the originator has both Universes existing on the same plane, one solid continuous plane that is doubled over. That's a great diagram for the old "bend space......double it over.....create a wormhole through hyper-space (or subspace).....emerge on the other side.....travel to the other side of the universe in a quick minute" theory................but I don't see how both Universe's could exist on the same plane...........and actually be connected physically. Like you could just get in a space ship and fly from one Universe to another ......like passing through counties on the interstate.

I will look for the link. I searched physics websites for quite some time, even translating websites from other languages, in order to find a diagram that illustrates the MWI of time travel.