silver surfer vs energy superman

Originally posted by whirlysplat
It was part 3 or 4 of the Troyjan War Arc so around issue 416 Hulk volume 2 Peter David, Gary Frank. Actually the Surfer is very cool in it. The Troyjan are scared of him. His reputation proceeds him, but the Troyjan Emperor is an energy manipulator and physically stronger than the hulk, bit like Energy Supes🙂. It must be part 4. Its the issue Trauma (Tro-Maw) dies in. When the Troyjan have kidnapped Atlanta.

If you haven't read it best Hulk arc ever!

Best Surfer rendition ever, and the even the Starjammers who I hate are very well written, its simply genius.

Keep the faith 😄

Stay Whirly 🙂

This single issue kinda blows a whole in SS v any other energy manipulator and I wish I had remembered it earlier 😄

I'll have to read that one. SS may not be the greatest energy manipulator ever, but he's among the best of them.

It appears he can be cut off at Source from the power cosmic by smoeone who knows how to and I quote "Shut the door".

It is a brilliant story probably the best of Peter David's Prof Hulk story arc😄

Dr. Doom took Norrins power cosmic one time I believe.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Dr. Doom took Norrins power cosmic one time I believe.

Thats different to shutting him off from his power source like what theyre talking about

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Thats different to shutting him off from his power source like what theyre talking about

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Well either way it is possible to take Norrins power or cut it from the source.

What source?

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
What source?

I just brought up Doom taking norrins powers.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
IDK whatever comic you and whirly are talking about.

I just brought up Doom taking norrins powers.

Norrin didn't lose his powers while Doom possessed them, did he?

Norrin's source of power is cosmic radiation.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Norrin didn't lose his powers while Doom possessed them, did he?

Norrin's source of power is cosmic radiation.

Yes he did hmmm interesting 😄

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
If Surfer could be drained, which you have yet to prove. 🙄

Surfer can destroy planets with his blasts. Superman can't take a planet destroying blast.

Energy Superman is vulnerable to radiation. He's nowhere near as fast as Surfer, either. Surfer could just absorb his energy form.

Surfer wins, even easier than he would against normal Superman.

I think you have supes confused with Glads 🙄

By the end of his arc. Energy supes was able to also control any type of energy *ie cosmic IS energy*

Surfer isnt absorbing anything. Supes control is just as great if not greater.

If he tries anything like that..he's just going to double or triple his problem.

and in this form, Supes is at least light speed if not faster and he can fight at that speed easily.

Supes is too susceptible to proficient energy wielders in this form and you dont get a much better energy wielder/manipulator than SS at this. He's been captured and contained by such people, he's susceptible to excessive radiation intake, he tires himself out using his electromagnetic powers a lot easier than his standard form got tired. ss would take this. He's had these powers for a long time. Supes was new to these when he had them and was discovering new abilities every few issues. SS's control is far superior and he would undoutably win this fight eventually

Surfer has been cut off from the power cosmic by an energy weilder 😄 blah blah blah GS 😄

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Surfer has been cut off from the power cosmic by an energy weilder 😄 blah blah blah GS 😄

Has energy supes shown such capability? Has he cut off other cosmically powered beings from their power sources rendering them helpless? I dont believe he has unless someone wishes to enlighten me. Just because one person has done it to SS doesnt mean supes will be able to just because he to is an energy manipulator

Blah Blah Blah Manipulates all forms of energy blahblah blah 😄

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Blah Blah Blah Manipulates all forms of energy blahblah blah 😄

I'll take that as a NO then. So as it stands my points have yet to be countered so it seems this thread has reached something of a standstill. Its cool whirly all of us lose from time to time

blah blah blah no one loses blah blah blah you have yet to prove Supes will not be cut off from his power blah blah blah, I think he will and others like Avalon who is impartial agree blah blah blah 😄 Overbearing blah blah blah fan blah boy 😄

Originally posted by whirlysplat
blah blah blah no one loses blah blah blah you have yet to prove Supes will not be cut off from his power blah blah blah, I think he will and others like Avalon who is impartial agree blah blah blah 😄 Overbearing blah blah blah fan blah boy 😄

Ummm couldnt the same be said for you and Supes or even Miracleman. I'll tell you what. I'll do some research into MM so that we can have a little debate on something you actually have knowledge on. Ok? 😄

I have yet to prove Supes wont be cut off? I think you meant to type in SS but there there Whirly we all make mistakes. But yours are occurring with an increasing regularity. Maybe its old age? 😉

Like i said Energy supes has been captured and contained many a time by Dc earth level energy manipulators, he's susceptible to radiation, he tires himself out a lot easier than standard supes ever did and he also was relatively inexperienced with his powers. SS wins no doubt. This has been fun. But the outcome was never in doubt.

-GS

Actually it works either way in regard to the cutting blah blah yes before he gained full control of his powers he could be captured blah blah blah when he gained full control that didn't happen 😄

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I think you have supes confused with Glads 🙄

By the end of his arc. Energy supes was able to also control any type of energy *ie cosmic IS energy*

Surfer isnt absorbing anything. Supes control is just as great if not greater.

If he tries anything like that..he's just going to double or triple his problem.

and in this form, Supes is at least light speed if not faster and he can fight at that speed easily.

Prove all of this.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
blah blah blah no one loses blah blah blah you have yet to prove Supes will not be cut off from his power blah blah blah, I think he will and others like Avalon who is impartial agree blah blah blah 😄 Overbearing blah blah blah fan blah boy 😄

Avalon is impartial!? 😆