he can fight at light seed and beyond , he can go at 100X light speed , all you need to to throw punches at these speed.
He took hulk to space before he realized anything (note he had to grab hulk, and lift off ---- he did all this in moments(less than a sec)
Thor speed was Amp - Still Gladiator was much faster.
Like DC character, Gladiator is not restricted to use his (speed on) planets etc , like I said when confident he blows them with one hit.
About the "heat vision" is Glads more than the Stranger? Didnt the Hulk also took it without going down. As bruised as Herc might become being immortal means hes not going to die by any conventional means. Burned included.
Gladiator has melting Hulk organs from the inside and that's not his best shots, his heat vision has blown planets before (confident)
About statements of power. Every character has it. Zeus has stated that Hercs strenght was without peer. Wasp has said that Herc was the strongest avenger ever including Thor and Hulk. [/B]
Herc is stong but , if you look at what Gladiator has done , Herc doesn't compare.- 100X light speed
- Move planets, asteroids through space
- Contain a solar System destroying attack , and Survive such blasts
- hang with Ego
- battle Hyperion and chocked his ass
- Blow planets with ease
- Heat vision , can see through stuff , etcDon’t compare Quicksilver with Gladiators speed.
Quicksilver is mach, Glad can go beyond light
Speed, and power, heat too many things glad can do for a easy win.
He can stay in air and hear vision his ass all day.
[QUOTE]About statements of power. Every character has it. Zeus has stated that Hercs strenght was without peer. Wasp has said that Herc was the strongest avenger ever including Thor and Hulk. [/B]
Herc is stong but , if you look at what Gladiator has done , Herc doesn't compare.- 100X light speed
- Move planets, asteroids through space
- Contain a solar System destroying attack , and Survive such blasts
- hang with Ego
- battle Hyperion and chocked his ass
- Blow planets with ease
- Heat vision , can see through stuff , etcDon’t compare Quicksilver with Gladiators speed.
Quicksilver is mach, Glad can go beyond light
Speed, and power, heat too many things glad can do for a easy win.
He can stay in air and hear vision his ass all day.
he can fight at lightpseed and beyond , he can go at 100X light speed , all you need to to throw punches at these speed.
He took hulk to space before he realized anything ( note he had to grab hulk , and lift off ---- he did all this in moments( less than a sec)
THor speed was Amp - Still Gladiator was much Faster.
like DC character , Gladiator is not restricted to planets etc , like i said when confident he blows them with one hit.
[QUOTE] About the "heat vision" is Glads more than the Stranger? Didnt the Hulk also took it without going down. As bruised as Herc might become being immortal means hes not going to die by any conventional means. Burned included.
Gladiator was melting Hulk organs from the inside and that's not his best shots , his heat vision has blown planets before ( confident)
About statements of power. Every character has it. Zeus has stated that Hercs strenght was without peer. Wasp has said that Herc was the strongest avenger ever including Thor and Hulk. [/B][QUOTE]
- 100X light speed
- Move planets , astroid throgh space
- Contain a solar System destoying attack , and Surive such blasts
- hang with Ego
- battle hyperion and chocked his ass
- Blow planets with ease
- Heat vision , can see throgh stuff , etc
don't compare Quicksilver with Gladiators speed.
Quicksilver is mach , Glad can go beyond light
Im not comparing Silver with Glads. Im saying Herc has reflexes fast enough to punch and taggle speedsters. The same way he has battle fliers. Or attacked cosmic beings like Stranger, Galactus, Zeus, Hades, Ego.
"he can fight at light seed and beyond , he can go at 100X light speed , all you need to to throw punches at these speed."
Im not asking if that belongs to his powerset. Im asking when did he fought at light speed. Its simple. Was it against Thor, hulk? When.
Considering Hercules was never beaten by either and trade punch by punch, does that makes him at that ligth speed combat also?
Originally posted by olympian
Im not comparing Silver with Glads. Im saying Herc has reflexes fast enough to punch and taggle speedsters. The same way he has battle fliers. Or attacked cosmic beings like Stranger, Galactus, Zeus, Hades, Ego."he can fight at light seed and beyond , he can go at 100X light speed , all you need to to throw punches at these speed."
Im not asking if that belongs to his powerset. Im asking when did he fought at light speed. Its simple. Was it against Thor, hulk? When.
Considering Hercules was never beaten by either and trade punch by punch, does that makes him at that ligth speed combat also?
look at superman , Flash they get hit by people that are human level speed( or bit faster)
He can move that fast , and can attack with heat vision and cook herc.
And you still didnt told me when did he ever -fought- at light speed. Because if he did against Thor or Hyperon than Hulk and Herc both have light speed combat too.
Thor flies at light speed also with his hammer but doesnt fight at light speed with it. The max he can do is flying straight to the opponent at that speed and trying to knock them out. Thats flying not trading punches or skill moves with that speed.
And since it came in this Thread the "idea" that Herc isent at Hulks level:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/jjschm20/Hercules/-story2page06-.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/jjschm20/Hercules/Herc-Hulk2.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/jjschm20/Hercules/Herc-Hulk3.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/jjschm20/Hercules/-story2page09-.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/jjschm20/Hercules/-story2page10-.jpg
And more recent fights. (the last one was theyr first ):
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/jjschm20/Hercules/Hulk-404-12.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/jjschm20/Hercules/IncredibleHulk316-12.jpg
well, kg, i found out WHY you can never find the fight between ego and gladiator (incidentally, glads also fought ss in the same issue.) it's because it never happened in continuity!! the fight took place in an issue of MARVEL ADVENTURES:
<<After decades of comics growing more sophisticated and adult, the industry is making a substantial return to comics you'll feel comfortable handing to your 8-year-old.
Industry leader Marvel Comics has jumped on the bandwagon with its new "Marvel Adventures" line, beginning with a Spider-Man book a few months ago and a Fantastic Four title launching this month. "Adventures" joins DC's "Johnny DC" line (based mostly on cartoon shows like "Scooby Doo," "Power Puff Girls" and "Teen Titans"😉, Gemstone's re-launch of the Disney books and the evergreen Archie Comics characters.
And it's about time.
Translation: It's all well and good for kids to watch the movies and cartoons, but publishers want kids to read comics, too. And, honestly, don't we all want our kids to read more and sit mesmerized in front of the tube less?
So we come to "Marvel Adventures," aimed at ages 10 and younger. >>
wish i could find the issue number and scans, but i guess it doesn't matter much since it happened out of continuity. too bad . . .
ps-the zeus/herc fight was ALSO out of continuity, by the way, just so's you know that i always play fair . . .
🙂
Gladiator is a huge fav of mine. I like him better than superman and the like. But saying Herc doesnt have feats or its not at Hulks level is such an incorrect statement by some fans that makes me wonder if some people read comics at all. His fights with the Hulk are there to prove. With Namor. With Thor. He went up against Ego together with thor. He has punched and stalemate two heralds in the forms of Nova and Firelord.
About FTL speeds. So far in comics ive seen it only when flying or charging directly at an opponent. This is not Dragonball when pll actually fight at those speeds.
<<Jr do you have Herc first minis? Those wer some of my fav comics ever>.
even though they're out of continuity, i think BOTH the layton ltd series' were the definitive hercules. can you believe herc sat down with galactus and tried to get him drunk!! seeing galactus laugh was one of the greatest scenes ever . . .
hercules rox!!!
yeah. it really was much weaker than the ltd series'. basically herc's son arimathes tries to get revenge on herc because herc left his mother (layana from the mini) course it doesn't work, herc fights his kid blindfolded and after a titanic struggle beats him. one of ari's punches was thorwn with force enough to break the sound barrier! ha! herc withstood it (prince of power, indeed!!) then hit ari so hard it took him a full minute to land! still, though it had its moments, it was not a great book.
Originally posted by leonidas
<<Jr do you have Herc first minis? Those wer some of my fav comics ever>.even though they're out of continuity, i think BOTH the layton ltd series' were the definitive hercules. can you believe herc sat down with galactus and tried to get him drunk!! seeing galactus laugh was one of the greatest scenes ever . . .
hercules rox!!!
Ye it was superb 😛 "Your quite the clown Olympian" says Galactus or was it Buffoon😄
Cool anyway 😄
Originally posted by olympian
[B]And you still didnt told me when did he ever -fought- at light speed. Because if he did against Thor or Hyperon than Hulk and Herc both have light speed combat too.
He snapped Hyperion's neck.
Thor was using a device to boost up his speed 100X the speed of light. Gladiator fought him at that speed. Nobodies lying to you. Those who know a good deal about Gladiator know this already.
Thor flies at light speed also with his hammer but doesnt fight at light speed with it. The max he can do is flying straight to the opponent at that speed and trying to knock them out. Thats flying not trading punches or skill moves with that speed.
Yeah well Gladiator did fight at that speed. He used lightspeed stomped Wonderman in Operation Galactic Storm. Masterson Thor had to hit him from behind when WM was down. He still kicked M. Thor's ass using his speed and other powers. M. Thor had to pull Living Lightning out of the sky to help him win against Gladiator.
Please don't use Thor as an example of speed. Most fights involving Thor and Gladiator, Gladiator's dominated. His speed overwhelms Thor in most battle. Thor's only won with outside interference (Living Lightning, Tarene, Enchantress, etc.)
Gladiator's smashed a planet and moved asteroids. Herc has strength and a mace. And no sh!t, Herc isn't equal to Gladiator in strength.
Gladiator hits him with speed blitz, heat vision, and flight.
If you wanna bring up that sh!t fight with Hulk, Maximus K.O.ed Herc in one throw during Infinty Crusade.
