Emmas been powered down and Storm has been powered up since the White Queen days... and Storm easily beat Emma in their most recent fight... so thats what counts... you cant just say "Emma wasnt really trying" in every fight where she loses.
For that matter, Rachel lost a lot of power recently, I mean Viper beat her up so Emma's doing so wasnt a really big deal. 😉
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I remember there was something about Storm having intrinsic electrical interference impeding psychic communication in Xtreme and probably therefore any psychic assault.
to a certain extent... not invulnerability...
Originally posted by FieryBalrog
Emmas been powered down and Storm has been powered up since the White Queen days... and Storm easily beat Emma in their most recent fight... so thats what counts... you cant just say "Emma wasnt really trying" in every fight where she loses.For that matter, Rachel lost a lot of power recently, I mean Viper beat her up so Emma's doing so wasnt a really big deal. 😉
im not... but you just made my point for me... storm was powered up while emma was powered down... so both characters at standard levels should be comparable...
and i still think emma will take storm if she really had to... she just gives me that impression...
Originally posted by pr1983
to a certain extent... not invulnerability...im not... but you just made my point for me... storm was powered up while emma was powered down... so both characters at standard levels should be comparable...
and i still think emma will take storm if she really had to... she just gives me that impression...
but characters dont fight at standard levels they fight now.... I mean their powers change over time... right? So you cant say oh, Emma would beat her if she was at her "classic" power level when things have changed. Emma in those days didnt have her diamond skin either...
just as scarlet witch used to be really weak when she first appeared... but now things have changed, and when she fights its not like shes fighting at her weak really old power levels.
Same with I dunno, Superman.
Originally posted by FieryBalrog
but characters dont fight at standard levels they fight now.... I mean their powers change over time... right? So you cant say oh, Emma would beat her if she was at her "classic" power level when things have changed. Emma in those days didnt have her diamond skin either...just as scarlet witch used to be really weak when she first appeared... but now things have changed, and when she fights its not like shes fighting at her weak really old power levels.
Same with I dunno, Superman.
ok, i so meant it in a different way...
we all read comics right? we see our favourite characters do things that they should be able to do right?
so what happens when you pick up a comic and see a character do something they shouldnt be able to? something that should be beyond them yet a writer decides that he either loves this character too much, or doesnt care enough to try and be consistent...
of course i accept that storm has been powered up and emma powered down...
if marvel publishes a no holds barred fight between the two and storm wins, so be it...
yet if she pulls of an EMP how am i suposed to react? to blindly accept it?
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You don't need to be a telepath to try and resist them. She did it quite a few times I think and strength of will has always been one of Storm's characteristics so its not PIS 😛
But only to an extent... i mean, the shadow king? the guy who matched and almost defeated xavier? come on... seriously...
My money's still on Rachel. I don't see her having less power than before. She's not struggling to do anything. Take a closer look at the Savage Land bit recently. Rachel wasn't even concerned with Storm's mind, per se. She was affecting her powers. She made Storm use them, AND she amplified them. This is while Storm is resisting her. Storm couldn't control the weather on her own anymore. Rachel had to merge with her to calm the storm. So all those global storms weren't solely Ororo's work.
And while others have been stated as having near limitless power, Rachel's power IS limitless. Phoenix activated a stargate, pulled a meteor from orbit AND fixed the M'Kraan Crystal, and then looses to Mags. The power was still there, but she didn't have access to it. Perhaps that's what is happening with Marvel Girl now.
BTW, why do people always refer to TPs by their given names, even though they have code names?
Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
BTW, why do people always refer to TPs by their given names, even though they have code names?
only certain ones, like Jean, Rachel and Emma who dont have codenames or have multiple codenames and multiple identities. Its probably just a coincidence that the 3 X-men with prominent multiple identities and costumes are TPs....
Like Psylocke, no one calls her Betsy, same with Shadow King or Sage or other TPs.
TP resistance doesn't equal TP immunity. Emma (or Rachel) can turn Storm's brain into mush. People confuse problems probing minds with minimal invasion and damage as absolute telepathic immunity. It's not. For that matter, a TP can also cause someone to use their power at will, or not to be able to use it at all. TPs have restricted people's access to their mutant powers before.
If Jean was alive, she'd definitely be the most powerful X-Woman. None of the others come close to matching her.
Right now I'd have to say Storm probably takes the lead. Rachel SHOULD be the strongest in theory but the writers are making her seem awfully weak.
And the only reason why Emma defeated Rachel was because she had more experience and skill. Rachel has way more power than her, she just needs to hone them.