Originally posted by stormfront13
what happened in the savage land? she doesn't have very defined limits and she can access space through her powers. according to the same interview that had iceman in it she can potentially control every aspect of the weather, every aspect of the ecosystem and every aspect of the atmosphere
ok... 🤨
Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
I don't see how his secondary mutation made him an omega. Can someone enlighten me
his body changed... thats all i think...
That's just it. She's bound by the atmosphere. Think back to the Dark Phoenix Saga. Storm says:
"The limited environment within this crater will make it hard for me to effectively use my elemental pwers. I won't have sufficient atmospeheric tools to work with."
In the Savage Land, the storms that she created with Rachel amping her powers had to be stopped by both her and Rachel. Her powers have marked limits to them.
no, storm can control the elements of the cosmic storm, so storm saying that was stupid. she controlled the elements of the cosmic storm to destroy a sentinal in well....i don't know the issue number but it was around x-men # 100. i read it in the essential x-men, the black and white ones. in the savage land, rachel created the storm through storms powers. storms powers were being augmented, so naturally she couldn't stop the storm, because she didn't create it and it was her power being magnified. then there was also that time storm went insane and was warping the weather patterns all over the world with ease. she was like the dark phoenix but with weather powers. she hasn't yet reached her full potnetial.
Originally posted by stormfront13
hey, i didn't decide it, the writers and creators did
no they didnt...
let me ask you sf... do you know anyone else who can corroborate your story about the pic being genuine?
and bobby's powers didnt change, his body did... which allowed him to use his powers on himself more effectively... nothing more...
no they didnt...
^^ how would you know, you didn't create storm and that were her plans for them
let me ask you sf... do you know anyone else who can corroborate your story about the pic being genuine?
^at this point not that i know of
and bobby's powers didnt change, his body did... which allowed him to use his powers on himself more effectively... nothing more...
^^that is a secondary mutation, his body changed to ice allowing him to use his powers in different ways
Originally posted by stormfront13
^^ how would you know, you didn't create storm and that were her plans for them
did you?
^at this point not that i know of
sorry but this is a debate... u need to back it up... even if someone else saw it...
^^that is a secondary mutation, his body changed to ice allowing him to use his powers in different ways
but his powers themselves werent affected...
You can't say that Storm was warping weather patterns all over the world with ease. She was freaked out. She lost control. What happened was a result of her claustrophia, not Storm consciously trying to manipulate the world's ecosystem. She knows better.
You proved my point about the Savage Land. Storm should have been able to control what she created, even if her powers had been increased by someone else. No doubt that she's ridiculously powerful, and will become more so. But let's be real. She has limits. You admit so yourself. The limits are both internal and external. If she doesn't have the tools, she can't work with anything. If things get too big, she can't do anything about it.
Originally posted by stormfront13
^no, but that was there plan for her. she was supposed to be powerful from the beginning
their plan? are you an x-men writer?
^^in a way they were, his powers took over his body allowing him to use his powes in ways he hasn't before
no... his body changed, his power was unaffected... its only another option for his powers, not an extension...
That's not true. Emma showed him things that he could always do but he had never attempted. That had nothing to do with him become ice 24/7.
No one is disputing that Storm is powerful. I think pretty much everyone concedes that. But she has limits. I don't think right now that she's an omega, unless some writer can figure out how to get around her limits.
You proved my point about the Savage Land. Storm should have been able to control what she created, even if her powers had been increased by someone else. No doubt that she's ridiculously powerful, and will become more so. But let's be real. She has limits. You admit so yourself. The limits are both internal and external. If she doesn't have the tools, she can't work with anything. If things get too big, she can't do anything about it.
^^she didn't create the storm and didn't have control over it because she didn't create it. it was world-wide and has never done anything of this calibre before. her powers had been amped to create the storm, then her regular power-levels weren't able to shut it down. and according to what she has done, whereever she is she can use her powers. even in space or an alien planet(the hill). her weakness is much, much harder to exploit that icemans. iceman is limited to how much moisture is in the air. he has even admittted that if there is no moisture in the air he basically cannot do anything. while in the deserat with the x-men one time he couldn't even create an ice-slide
^^in a way they were, his powers took over his body allowing him to use his powes in ways he hasn't before
no... his body changed, his power was unaffected... its only another option for his powers, not an extension...
she didn't create the storm and didn't have control over it because she didn't create it.
Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
That. Sorry for the confusion.I think that's spot on.
When the X-Men first encountered Alpha Flight, she didn't create the storm; Shaman did. Yet she was able to undo it, although it nearly cost her her life.
oh, ok...
and yeah i agree with you...
Originally posted by stormfront13
because that storm wasn't the size of the world. and she nearly died because it was an out of control storm which was the size of ooh, come country. can't remember which one
so she has limits...