Bush still strong on opposing G8 debt-relief

The Taliban stopped most of the heroine trade from Afghanistan when it was in power, always has been my ass.

oh...you mean everywhere except the 1/3rd of the country that the taliban didn't actually control

then why are you saying that some of them are good.

where did i say that? and about what regime?

what was the point of Iraq again, not the worst regime around, and it shouldn't have had the highest priority.

because it was part of the war on terror and its documented FACT that muhammed atta trained in iraq as well as the fact that saddams regime actively funded terrorist groups

not to mention the 500,000 shi'ites that he systematically slaughtered over the last 10 years...and all the kuwaitis that are still missing since the first gulf war

Just walk away and not pay for a new house, or should I pay for a new house?

uuuhh...yeah...as it stands its highly unlikely that you would have to pay for my new house...

now on to pvs again

first off...those pics are pretty homo-erotic 😆 and might get you banned

lets not actually forget that the saudi's are pro active in tackling terrorism where as saddam, as i previously mentioned' was pro active in supporting terrorism...

also...once again as you seem to have not bothered listening...not all regimes need to be tackled using force...some respond to diplomatic pressures...saddam on the other habd pretty much laughed in the face of the united nations security council and the resolutions placed upon it

it has NOTHING to do with oil. nothing at all. remember to send that postcard.

once again for those who weren't listening the first time...i suggest you dig a little deeper to find out the nations who had illegal oil deals with iraq at the expense of iraqi children

*cough*france*cough*...Russia*cough*

its no wonder they were not in favour of ousting saddam...it would have meant their deals went to shit...

if you wish to forsake reality just to feel like you've "won" this arguement, then fine, whatever.

i actually research these kind of things rather than relying on the Bush bashing press for the "reality" of the situations

The Taliban stopped most of the heroine trade from Afghanistan when it was in power, always has been my ass.

oh...and one last thing...contrary to popular leftist beliefs...the taliban and al qaeda actually used heroin traffiking as a way to fund their activities

saudi's are proactive in tackling terrorism.

you actually believe the bullshit rhetoric, and think that tough talk is effective.
i am honestly getting irritated now. half of the 9-11 report was BLACKED OUT to protect the SAUDI ROYAL FAMILY. as i mentioned, speaking of not listening.

if you refuse to see that blatent fact, there is no point in arguing this any further. enjoy the bliss that is ignorance

saudi's are proactive in tackling terrorism.you actually believe the bullshit rhetoric

the saudi's have launched more anti terrorist actions than most of the so called allied countries

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1193051/posts

http://www.saudi-us-relations.org/newsletter/saudi-relations-special-11-09.html

enjoy the bliss that is ignorance

it seems to me that it is you that enjoys the ignorance...

its arguments like yours that constantly overshadow the good that the US does in the world...yes the regime is flawed...yes Bush is thick at best...yes the US and the UK have killed innocent people during the war

but i challenge anyone to find something that the likes of saddam hussein ever done for the greater good (besides helping fight the commie bastards in the 70's and 80's)

😛

acutally we'll go back to saudi's

do the saudi's try to systematically exterminate entire social groups...ethnic cleansing...uuummm...no

and you know what...i can actually see the future

America attacks Saudi Arabia due to the human rights abuses that PVS so abhorently despises...then PVS comes onto KMC and shouts

"WAR FOR OIL...WAR FOR OIL"

Bush just cant win can he

regardless...have to go for the night...debate with you some more tomorrow PVS

take it easy mate 👆 👆 👆

ok yeah sure.

no im done debating this with you.

if you choose to selectively ignore points so obvious as the nose on your face than whats the point? i dont feel like digging up the hundreds of articles on the 9-11 reports, or the attrocities still occuring in iraq and afghanistan, that is your choice. sarcasm and putting words in my mouth will not change what is.

sorry 😬

i look forward to discussing other topics, but as far as i'm concerned this particular conversation is over.

9-11 reports,

the name kinda gives it away...the 9/11 report...as in...a report into the events of 9/11 and who was involved...in 9/11...as in 1 single incident

that report had no wider remit to investigate terrorism as a whole...

or the attrocities still occuring in iraq

as in terrorist bombings...easily by far and away the worst attrocities still going on...actually they're not...the beheadings of innocent people beats the bombings in my opinion

but if you want to ignore all the good that also happens in both those countries as well as the wider world because of the Bush administration just to legitimise your bush bashing antics then thats fine

i just think that if all the people who hold up placards and boards during demonstrations that read "bush: worlds number 1 terrorist" put their collective efforts into tackling the real evil regimes in the world then perhaps many of the human rights abuses that you so obviously despise could be brought to the fore and acted upon by those who have the power

what i'm saying is that governments like the US and the UK act under massive pressure and little else...if the world isn't saying anything beyond "you are evil and we hate you" then nothing will ever be done

Ok back on topic just becasue I am curious as to what on earth the G8 actually did or did not commit to.. Once again our 'free' media has wimped out by not outlining exactly what was and was not agrred upon and if in fact the main reason for the lack of significant aid (which is what I understand to be the case altho I really cant tell from US reports) was the lack of siginicant aid due primarily to Bush

The debt won't be forgiven, but 50 billion goes to africa, 3 Billion to the Palastinians.

Thanks Sads 🙂

Why the Palestenians? You'll have to forgive my ignorance on this one.. seeing as how it wasn't mentioned by Live 8 I dont know anything about this 😮

😛

Originally posted by bilb
Thanks Sads 🙂

Why the Palestenians? You'll have to forgive my ignorance on this one.. seeing as how it wasn't mentioned by Live 8 I dont know anything about this 😮

😛

Why the Palestinians get money?.....hmm because they gor decently screwed up the ass for ...approximatedly 60 years.......they should get more...and their own country......and all that........

I just didnt realize that it was an issue being discussed by the G8 is all I meant..