Well...seeing as how people are turning this thread into a penis flapping competition (ok, i promise last reference to that), i'd just like to break the mold by saying "Cool avatar and sig princeofblades. Though...it kinda sucks that there's two people here (you and dark1347 or whatever) with protoss avatars/sigs, and no zerg 🙁
Anyway...
~wickerman~
Originally posted by Scoobless
what if your "gut" tells you that killing is right? or rape? or robbery?.... does that make it right?right and wrong are concepts of societies..... right and wrong don't actually exist... only the perception of them does
if you are merely hungry is it wrong to steal food? if your child is dying of hunger is it wrong then?
You gut would never tell you to do such a thing, unless it was deformed. Like the conscious of the suicide bombers who think it right to set them self off killing countless civilians. However the means do not justify the ends. But the lesser of two evils determines the course of actions.
Originally posted by Wickerman
Well...seeing as how people are turning this thread into a penis flapping competition (ok, i promise last reference to that), i'd just like to break the mold by saying "Cool avatar and sig princeofblades. Though...it kinda sucks that there's two people here (you and dark1347 or whatever) with protoss avatars/sigs, and no zerg 🙁Anyway...
~wickerman~
I'd use a terran sig, but than again I could use a space marine one instead. But thanks for the comment though.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Some people do whats right, if you had to swerve and hit either a dog or the person , most would say the dog, but is that RIGHT?
To starve yourself or steal are both wrong. But which one is a lesser of two evils. Neither course of action is right, but only one of them has a less of a consequence.
Originally posted by PrinceofBlades
To starve yourself or steal are both wrong. But which one is a lesser of two evils. Neither course of action is right, but only one of them has a less of a consequence.
For the love of all that's unholy.......are we drifiting a biiiiit too much from the initial topic???
~wickerman~
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Who say's what is wrong, if a society, tells us not to steal, but starve are they wrong.]If we gave everyone food, then others would be out of a job, is that wrong.
Who owns food, I was born to everything around me, work of course, but still, why should people starve for for the sake of money.
To steal to survive compared to to starve because you want to follow a bunch of people who could care less about you anyways makes the choice of action rather simple. There is a saying that goes as follows "Into this world we were born alone, and in that state shall we leave it." We shouldn't care what other people think, but rather what we know to be right. When we don't know, than we seek knowledge and discover our fault, learn it, and move on. When more than one people think and believe to know the same thing, than it becomes a fixed standard. But when people come together to make something they want a fixed standard, than it doesn't become a right, it still stays a wrong. When people follow it, it doesn't make them right, only ignorant.
Originally posted by PrinceofBlades
To starve yourself or steal are both wrong. But which one is a lesser of two evils. Neither course of action is right, but only one of them has a less of a consequence.
i disagree... it's all to do with circumstances... stealing may be wrong... but stealing food to survive is not.... in fact it's completely natural, many animals "steal" by eating from the kills of other animals, we don't judge them as doing something wrongful.... just as doing what they have to
if it's natural then it isn't wrong
Originally posted by PrinceofBlades
To steal to survive compared to to starve because you want to follow a bunch of people who could care less about you anyways makes the choice of action rather simple. There is a saying that goes as follows "Into this world we were born alone, and in that state shall we leave it." We shouldn't care what other people think, but rather what we know to be right. When we don't know, than we seek knowledge and discover our fault, learn it, and move on. When more than one people think and believe to know the same thing, than it becomes a fixed standard. But when people come together to make something they want a fixed standard, than it doesn't become a right, it still stays a wrong. When people follow it, it doesn't make them right, only ignorant.
Amen its all about survival, but there is no wrong, if you are ignorant,no?
Imagine being around noone, and have nothing taught to you, how would your life be?
Hmm...interesting thread here.
I got the most props on the "best debator list", so I guess I'd least want to argue with myself. Everybody else is easy meat, which is why I don't lose debates.
I think people in general don't have a strong enough command of facts, so instead it's mainly bluster or distractionary attacks that divert attention away from the actual debate. It's a clever skill, but mainly parlor tricks. The only two people who I know has a very strong grasp of the fundamentals of debating is Scoobless and GalacticStorm (except for when we went though this AC-clone phase), but we frequently agree anyway.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Can't say I steer clear of any debates. I've won or at least came to an agreement in all of mine.Never actually lost one since I've been here.
-AC
HAHAHAHAHA. Would somebody like to look up "Hulk vs. Magneto"? AC's guarding that thread like he's some kind of firebreathing dragon, it's dozens of pages long, I come on, first time posting, DESTROY him and his arguments and, a few pages later, AC takes a suddenly conciliatory tone towards the whole thing, complimenting me and telling me that I gave him what he was looking for, like he knew the answer all along, lol. Then, "mysteriously", the once hot thread goes dead as everybody backs off. That, children, is what we call ownage.
Or is this an example of "coming to an agreement" to you? 😆
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Cordera, on that link you just poster (KMC Comics forum Hierachy), how old is that?I got placed in the top spot by quite a few people. Don't understand why everyone jumps on Demigawd, GalacticStorm etc.
-AC
Because we own you and everybody else on that board, mainly.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Demigawd, so annoying.He literally just drags things out for so long, pointlessly, so it looks like he's battling you. I whooped him multiple times.
HAHAHAHA. You're out of your damn mind if you think you've ever whooped me ONCE, much less multiple times.
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He's a cool guy though.
So cool that he doesn't talk trash unless provoked.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
As Nataku said, I bludgeon people with common sense. I don't need to get technical needlessly. That's Demigawd's field.
Translation: Demigawd actually resorts to facts instead of silly wordplay and irrelevant insults to own me on every thread, so much so that I had to flee the vs. board for months and talk shit about him on a "suck AC's dick" thread where I know (or at least thought I knew) Demigawd won't find me.
GalacticStorm is just a nuisance.
I don't know what you think you're playing at, but all your "victories" over people consist of making insults until they get embarassed and won't fight back any further. You never provide facts, never provide references, nothing. I held my tongue about the whole thing because I never cared that much. But now that I read that crap from you....*RIP* *TEAR*
AC's debating style:
AC: The sky is green.
You: No, the sky is clearly blue. You can look outside your window right now and see for yourself that it's blue. It's as blue as the ocean!
AC: HAHAA, Blue ocean? Clearly some oceans are green, and others, like in CRAP New York, are BROWN, so what are you talking about? Haven't been to the ocean much lately, have you? I'll send you a floatation device. Do you prefer rubber duckies or turtles?
Random poster: hahaha, AC, you're so funny!
Please. Anyone worth his or her salt can see right through that crap. It's not real debating, which is why I didn't name you among the likes of Scoobless, GalacticStorm or Illadelph12 (whom I forgot before).
Knowing you like I do, this post won't go unanswered with a million or so amateur night remarks from you, but I won't be here for them because unlike you, I don't need a bunch of groupies to tell me how good I am. So I'll leave you and your groupies to your mutual back patting. Just remember to send me a card on Father's Day, now that you and everybody on this board knows who your real daddy is....
I think you should count them, lol.
I did...I won. 😉