Galaxy's Stronge Force

Originally posted by Nai Fohl
Erm...no Jedi / Sith in it ?

The Galactic Empire would win. They have more troops and ships than the Republic and the Republic defeated the CIS. Without Luke Skywalker the Empire would have even defeated the Alliance. They would have far more firepower than the Yuuzhan Vong and even more than the Infinite Empire had. And they would have nearly every known tactical genious on their site (Thrawn, Tarkin, Daala and so on...).

They wouldn't have Daala necessarily and Tarkin was killed by Luke who wasn't a Jedi at that time. Yuuzhan Vong can compete with Jedi and one of them nearly killed NJO Luke. I think I have to change my mind to Yuuzhan Vong if there's no Jedi/Sith.

Originally posted by Nai Fohl
Erm...no Jedi / Sith in it ?

The Galactic Empire would win. They have more troops and ships than the Republic and the Republic defeated the CIS. Without Luke Skywalker the Empire would have even defeated the Alliance. They would have far more firepower than the Yuuzhan Vong and even more than the Infinite Empire had. And they would have nearly every known tactical genious on their site (Thrawn, Tarkin, Daala and so on...).

Agreed, the empire would be unstoppable if you dont count in jedi and sith, the rebels only won because of luke.

Originally posted by Emperor Revan
They wouldn't have Daala necessarily and Tarkin was killed by Luke who wasn't a Jedi at that time. Yuuzhan Vong can compete with Jedi and one of them nearly killed NJO Luke. I think I have to change my mind to Yuuzhan Vong if there's no Jedi/Sith.

The vong knew the empire would slaughter them, its been stated before.

That'w why the Vongs hid from the Empire.

Again you kinda wrong, the Vong bided their time because they knew that war with the Empire would drag on too long. And look at them, they bided their time and destroyed half the republic. But the Infintite Empire would win . . .

The Infinite Empire. Why? Cuz it hold on to it's holdings the longest, all it's warriors were able to use the force, and they have the Star Forge.

Originally posted by General Zodiac
That'w why the Vongs hid from the Empire.

So they hid from the Empire but not from the Republic that beat the Empire and restored the Jedi knights huh? Sure.

They got lucky. If not for Luke the Alliance would have been destroyed back in ANH.

Yeah but in the Battle of Endor, Luke or not, the Death Star 2 and the Executor would've been destroyed. Heck, even if somehow Luke caused the Death Star 2 to blow up, then without him IG-88 would've killed all organics in the entire galaxy and the Galactic Empire still woul've fallen.

Yeah but that was thanks to the Emperor's stupidness. And even after ROTJ many Imperial soldiers remained.

Yes but the Yuuzhan Vong took over Coruscant, beating the New Republic even with the Jedi's help. They have living ships that respond to them and what they lack in numbers they make up for with skill.

Infinite Empire Owns

If you want to exclude every force user then the infinite empire is dead before it even fights because they have billions of troops with the force. If they can still use the force however they would own everybody's asses and do it hard. Star Forge or no, it hardly matters their fire power may be weaker then that of the SSD's but they can still destroy those ships by using the force. You don't defeat a billion force users easily.

If all force users are gone, I would have to say Vong, with the Empire at a close second.

I don't think all of the Rakatans are Force users. After all, they said they needed Revan's help to get into the temple and destroy the Star Forge because they couldn't go in because they can't use the Force. Or somesuch. I believe they had some other way of controlling the Star Forge but their willpower was too weak and it eventually destroyed them.

Anywho, with no Force users I also think it's the Vong with the Empire at a close second.

Revan, that was because they were weakened by the plague which destroyed their empire.

How can you go against such blatant evidence, the vong clearly state the empire would slaughter them.

WHERE??????????

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
How can you go against such blatant evidence, the vong clearly state the empire would slaughter them.

Yeah, where? All other evidence shows the Vong beating the Empire since the Rebellion did. Those Yuuzhan Vong warriors are probably around ROTJ Luke's power as well.

Himokun: The rakatan computer in the basement says the Star Forge corrupted them and ultimately led to the Infinite Empire's fall.

I remember the mentioning of the plague taking them out because it only targetted them, so they soon became barbarian like.

Hmm, I do seem to remember that. I think that combined with the Star Forge corrupting them is what killed most of them. The computer says it corrupted them.