Al Qaeda does not exist - 'war on terroism' is a fairy tale!

Originally posted by Deano
whether people was in the blast holes or not...point is the goverment and the scum behind the scenes orchestrated this attack for there own selfish politics. just like hitler did when he firebombed his own reichstag building to scare the people. if you still think al C.I.Aida could pull of such an attack..you are truely gone...maybe you can tell me why NORAD stood down for the first time in 50 years..maybe you can tell me why this event was predicted on an illuminati board game along with the pentagon attacks....maybe you can tell me why the madrid building didnt fall after days of being on fire..yet twin towers collapsed within an hour
maybe you can tell me why you are so brainwashed

But you produced those pictures to back up your argument. Now you're saying they're irrelevant. I have an eyewitness account that says there weren't people there, but I'm a liar. I know other eyewitnesses, but they are liars.

Please quote in the 9/11 Commission Report where it says NORAD stood down for the first time in 50 years.

The Madrid building fire was not jet fuel. Jet fuel burns at a high heat. There was no impact the weakened the supports of the Madrid building. The Madrid building was not 110 stories tall and affected by wind like the WTC towers. You're apples and Toyotas, Deano.

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav,
i have a theory,it may not be true but its credible

Bush received warnings that an Islamic group was planning a terrorist atrocity,Bush chose not to act because it would suit his own further gains in a war in the middle east that he was planning.
The planes where hijacked and headed for their targets however the pentagon was not one of them the government (bush) wanted to eliminate those who did not agree with his war policy.
The planes hit Bush used the catastrophe to his advantage and it helped him start a global war on terror which he new hed be able to use to attack Saddam and bush also may have other buildings such as the ones miles from WTC destroyed to fit his own agenda

Yes that is pretty much it but I'd replace everywhere the word "Bush" is mentioned with "Illuminati" and I'd also add that it wasen't so much of a case of the Illuminati finding out they were going to do it but it was the Illuminati controlled CIA and other intelligence agencies that organised and instigated it to happen.

CIA officials met Bin Laden a month before 9/11, for example.

Presidents are merely adminastrators and I'd be generous to put them above 3/4 of the global manipulation heirachy so a much more powerfull force had to be involved in order to control the entities that could of stopped the attacks. That force is the Illuminati.

Whenever stuff like this happens, always ask two questions: "who gains" and "who had control over the security".

Answer: Illuminati, Illuminati.

hey let novu answer my question

oh and guess who ran security on the twin towers?....MARVIN BUSH! cousin of the president.....and guess when his contract ended?....SEPT 11 2001
his job was done

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav,
what if the illuminati want to create "conflict" to suit their own desighns for they control the media so nothing could go out that they didnt allow

Well sometimes they have to allow certain information to be reported such as the Downing Street Memo's recently. They woulden't get away with not reporting stuff like that but they did try to for a few weeks.

Originally posted by Novusordo
There was a small fire... and then it collpased.

You are aware that all modern buildings are designed to withstand fires??

Ohh and come to think of it, two engineers that designed the WTC said they designed them to withstand multiple commercial airliner impacts.

besides, FIRE CANNOT BRING DOWN MODERN BUILDINGS EVEN JET FUELED FIRES CANOT DO IT.

That is false. There was structural damage to WTC 7.

No, the engineers said the towers were built to withstand multiple small airplane impacts. In fact, the lead engineer said that they never took into account that a jumbo jet liner would strike the building when they designed it.

You are correct. Fires alone cannot bring down a modern skyscraper. An impact from a transcontinental jetliner and the ensuing fire can bring down a skyscraper.

Originally posted by Deano
oh and guess who ran security on the twin towers?....MARVIN BUSH! cousin of the president.....and guess when his contract ended?....SEPT 11 2001
his job was done

Oh yea I forgot about that!

Oh and guess when his contract ended for his job as chief security of the WTC complex? September 11th 2001 I kid you not 💃

You know what i find odd in these big wars the "enemy"(illuminati members??) always get away,for example Kaiser Wilhelm obviously a member he escaped WW1,Hitler was never positivly identified beyond reasonable doubt,Mullah Mohammed Omar escaped Afganistan,Bin Laden escaped Saddam escaped only to be found later but perhaps at illuminati convenence

Originally posted by Novusordo
Well use a bit of logic 🙄

The media are there to pound the version of events the Illuminati want the masses to believe and so anything that goes AGAINST the official line, must be true. Does that make sense to you?

Logic? That is picking and choosing the truth you want to hear. It's all about convenience. Any educated person would agree with me.

Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
But you produced those pictures to back up your argument. Now you're saying they're irrelevant. I have an eyewitness account that says there weren't people there, but I'm a liar. I know other eyewitnesses, but they are liars.

Please quote in the 9/11 Commission Report where it says NORAD stood down for the first time in 50 years.

The Madrid building fire was not jet fuel. Jet fuel burns at a high heat. There was no impact the weakened the supports of the Madrid building. The Madrid building was not 110 stories tall and affected by wind like the WTC towers. You're apples and Toyotas, Deano.

the jet fuel woudnt of brought down the building in that short space of time.

http://911review.com/means/noshow.html NORAD standing down
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/AirDefStdDwn.html

you can look this stuff up yourself you know.

Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
That is false. There was structural damage to WTC 7.

No, the engineers said the towers were built to withstand multiple small airplane impacts. In fact, the lead engineer said that they never took into account that a jumbo jet liner would strike the building when they designed it.

You are correct. Fires alone cannot bring down a modern skyscraper. An impact from a transcontinental jetliner and the ensuing fire can bring down a skyscraper.

Well I heard they said it was commerical airliner, not small planes.

Listen Kenobi, the towers fell in text book demolition style, the plane did not do it not least becuase it coulden't of 🙄

Rememebr the Madrib bombings and how the plane hit the buildings and it burned for days.

BTW, the Madrid bombings happend exactly 911 days after 9/11 attacks in NY.

Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
Logic? That is picking and choosing the truth you want to hear. It's all about convenience. Any educated person would agree with me.

I don't think you understand.

Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
Logic? That is picking and choosing the truth you want to hear. It's all about convenience. Any educated person would agree with me.

explain to me norad, marvin bush, larry silverstein saying he pulled the wtc 7 building
please explain the difference between hitler bombing his own reicstag building and the goveremnt bombing there own building so they can take your freedoms away, just like hitlser tryed to do...
10 years time it will be like living in nazi germany..with everyone with a damn microchip in there hand..and yet people wont seem to mind that they are in a prison planet..which scares the hell out of me

Originally posted by Novusordo
I don't think you understand.

nor do i does he not know the definition of Logic

Originally posted by Deano
the jet fuel woudnt of brought down the building in that short space of time.

http://911review.com/means/noshow.html NORAD standing down
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/AirDefStdDwn.html

you can look this stuff up yourself you know.

Like I said, wheere in the 9/11 Commission Report is the order for NORAD to stand down?

Originally posted by Novusordo
I don't think you understand.

I do understand. You're saying that if someone who lies to you everyday says something different one day must be telling the truth for that one day. That's flawed logic.

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav,
You know what i find odd in these big wars the "enemy"(illuminati members??) always get away,for example Kaiser Wilhelm obviously a member he escaped WW1,Hitler was never positivly identified beyond reasonable doubt,Mullah Mohammed Omar escaped Afganistan,Bin Laden escaped Saddam escaped only to be found later but perhaps at illuminati convenence

that is all the proof you need when considering this Illuminati group controlling the wars THE LEADERS NEVER GET CAUGHT

Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
Like I said, wheere in the 9/11 Commission Report is the order for NORAD to stand down?

balls
the 9/11 comission report is full of lies..its is a fraud

http://www.septembereleventh.org/newsarchive/2005-05-22-571pglie.php
http://ny911truth.org/articles/reportop.htm

Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
Like I said, wheere in the 9/11 Commission Report is the order for NORAD to stand down?

Ohh dear, another catch 22.

The 911 COmmission was seriously compromised of CFR and TC members which tie into the Round Table network of secret societies who's sole purpose it is to bring about the full implementation of the NWO so basicly, again, you are asking for sources who's job it is to cover it all up.

Besides, I find it hard to beleive you are unaware of NORAD's stand-down since it was mainstream news for ages.

Its official that NORAD where orderd to stand down that is one of the major strong points for conspiricy theorests,but then what could NORAD do shoot down civillians