Al Qaeda does not exist - 'war on terroism' is a fairy tale!

Originally posted by Deano
like novusordo was saying..ww3 will bring about the one world goverement..

I don't really think it will come to a WWIII....wars are fought differently now...more terrorist like.

then we are doomened but who knows life might be better

Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
Novusordo, any decent strategist would tell you that massive populations are difficult to control. Please explain why the Illuminati would wait so long and make their job much more difficult.

Becuase the technology that allows such massive control has only been around this past 10 years.

Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
Also, the internet allows for instantaneous transfer of information. One of the keys to control is the suppression of information. Please explain why the government would allow public use of such a tool.

They are trying to take control of the internet, as they said in the Porject for a New merican Century in 2000. It will be controlled and censored under the justification of preventing terroists from using it to plan attacks.

Translation: We want to censor and control the net to stop anyone who is trying to expose us.

Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
If the Illuminati have such firm control of the military, police, education, research, and media; what's to stop them from taking over right now?

They can't do stuff without justifications.

You don't understand that when the New WOrld Order comes into full implementation, the majority of folk won't have a clue they are in it and will simply live on without a bother.

They will create outside threats like the terroist threat and huge wars like WW3 to get the world in enough chaos and debt that people will literally be begging for the One World Government, microchip, fascist society, ect as long as it brings peace and security to them.

It's all very clever.

if it brings peace perhaps it will be better for us all

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav,
if it brings peace perhaps it will be better for us all

Nope, you are not thinking.

It's the Illuminati and it's massive secret society networks that have been manipulating and instigating all conflicts, atrocities, ect, ect.

THe idea is not to allow the New World Order to be fully implemented just becuase it will stop wars but the idea is to WAKE UP AND WAKE OTHERS UP SO WE CAN BRING THEIR HOUSE OF CARDS CRASHING TO THE GROUND!

Originally posted by Deano
"From the days of Sparticus Weishaupt, Karl Marx, Trotsky, Rosa Luxemberg, and Emma Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the tragedy of the French revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century. And now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."
Winston Churchill, stated to the London Press, in l922.

"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."

Strobe Talbot, Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July 20th, l992.

"We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent."
Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, l950

Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
Woodrow Wilson,The New Freedom (1913)

The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent."

Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviet (Illuminati) Union.

argue with them

Originally posted by Novusordo
Nope, you are not thinking.

It's the Illuminati and it's massive secret society networks that have been manipulating and instigating all conflicts, atrocities, ect, ect.

THe idea is not to allow the New World Order to be fully implemented just becuase it will stop wars but the idea is to WAKE UP AND WAKE OTHERS UP SO WE CAN BRING THEIR HOUSE OF CARDS CRASHING TO THE GROUND!

don't worry i was being sarcastic

Damm nice quotes there Deano.... it says it all... and from the horses mouth too.

i also liked those quotes

Originally posted by Novusordo
Becuase the technology that allows such massive control has only been around this past 10 years.

But they wouldn't need massive control if the population was smaller and less educated.

They are trying to take control of the internet, as they said in the Porject for a New merican Century in 2000. It will be controlled and censored under the justification of preventing terroists from using it to plan attacks.

Translation: We want to censor and control the net to stop anyone who is trying to expose us.

But the US government did not have to allow the internet to become public. It was a military tool first.

They can't do stuff without justifications.

You don't understand that when the New WOrld Order comes into full implementation, the majority of folk won't have a clue they are in it and will simply live on without a bother.

They will create outside threats like the terroist threat and huge wars like WW3 to get the world in enough chaos and debt that people will literally be begging for the One World Government, microchip, fascist society, ect as long as it brings peace and security to them.

It's all very clever.

That seems like an easy way to make a prediction come true. Conspiracy theorist can never be proven worng because nothing will change. I could trump you right now and say David Icke and all his followers are wrong. The new world order is already here and has been for decades. Since nobody will notice the change, who's to prove me wrong.

good point

But the US government did not have to allow the internet to become public. It was a military tool first.

Yes, they commercialized it to get everyone's info and for data purposes and also to see just how much people know about them and their agenda.

And they knew they could rely on the majority of people to not beleive what they read on the net so really, it was not risk to them atall. It served them, actually.

only problem in Russia(former(soviet) is that the good old leaders is long gone and now it is an undergorund mafia war for control, any one of them has the means to nick Putin if they want too, but as long as Putin goes after their rivals they keep calm for now.

Originally posted by Novusordo
Yes, they commercialized it to get everyone's info and for data purposes and also to see just how much people know about them and their agenda.

And they knew they could rely on the majority of people to not beleive what they read on the net so really, it was not risk to them atall. It served them, actually.

If the illuminati excist then they would have had control of the internet from the beginning and your conspirisey websites wouldnt exist

Originally posted by Novusordo
Yes, they commercialized it to get everyone's info and for data purposes and also to see just how much people know about them and their agenda.

And they knew they could rely on the majority of people to not beleive what they read on the net so really, it was not risk to them atall. It served them, actually.

Then why not suppress all information on them. David Icke could be killed quite easily. Since you claim the government has no problem killing its own citizens, the deaths of conspiracy theorists and many other random people would not be much of a problem.

That seems like an easy way to make a prediction come true. Conspiracy theorist can never be proven worng because nothing will change. I could trump you right now and say David Icke and all his followers are wrong. The new world order is already here and has been for decades. Since nobody will notice the change, who's to prove me wrong.

Well just open you're eyes and you'll see the world has been incrementally re-structured to divide the world into blocks that are controlled by unions that evolved out of trading programs.

And how about the world bank that is there to quite prooavbly do the total opposite of what it claims? To get countries and groups indebted to it so they can then control that country/group.

And how about the IMF, the UN, NATO and other international groups of there nature?

It's the New World Order my friend and it's full implementation happens when everything comes together.

Hell, the UN has even created the infrastructure for a One World Justice system thatall nations will be subject to once the United Nations plonks its ass onto the seats of One World Governance.

If it existed they would have roasted Deano and Novusordo over the bon fire like they were marshmallows(same consistence as Icke`s brain)

Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
Then why not suppress all information on them. David Icke could be killed quite easily. Since you claim the government has no problem killing its own citizens, the deaths of conspiracy theorists and many other random people would not be much of a problem.

Ok think about this for a second. If David Icke was suddenly killed one day, would you still mindlessly dismiss his information or would you then start to look into it? Exactly.

Icke's fans are in the hundreds of millions.

They hope the ammount dis/mis-information and the half-truths that plague him are enough to make him seem a nutcase it the eye of the dumb sheople.

Originally posted by Novusordo
Well just open you're eyes and you'll see the world has been incrementally re-structured to divide the world into blocks that are controlled by unions that evolved out of trading programs.

And how about the world bank that is there to quite prooavbly do the total opposite of what it claims? To get countries and groups indebted to it so they can then control that country/group.

And how about the IMF, the UN, NATO and other international groups of there nature?

It's the New World Order my friend and it's full implementation happens when everything comes together.

Hell, the UN has even created the infrastructure for a One World Justice system thatall nations will be subject to once the United Nations plonks its ass onto the seats of One World Governance.

Your view of these governing bodies is skewed at best. Most of the international organizations are mere toothless authorities. The UN could never bring about a new world order, it's too ineffectual. The World Bank is a sham. NATO is impotent. THe IMF is a joke too. Perhaps I'll believe you when the US disbands NATO and drops out of the UN.

Ok think about this for a second. If David Icke was suddenly killed one day, would you still mindlessly dismiss his information or would you then start to look into it? Exactly.

Icke's fans are in the hundreds of millions.