I was just bullshitting about that, didn't litterally mean he could make Galactus his pet.
But I don't think Galactus is as powerful as Eternity........I could be wrong, but that sounds iffy.
Strange invoking E' and becoming the Avatar of Eternity is a pretty big deal, imo.
Are we forgetting about the others?
Champ w/gem
Captain M
Surfer
Hulk
No one is taking Hulk out, or Champ in a brawn fight, they are there to reek some hella havok, kicking all types of ass.
Surfer and Cap' are the speed blitzers, they're gonna kill 50% of the big guys with the blitz's.
Strange's biggest role is leader and playing supreme defence, by giving the other protection and sending out hords of demons on earth to attack.
Relocating the true heavy hitters, Thor and the like, to another dimention.
Originally posted by long pig
I was just bullshitting about that, didn't litterally mean he could make Galactus his pet.
But I don't think Galactus is as powerful as Eternity........I could be wrong, but that sounds iffy.Strange invoking E' and becoming the Avatar of Eternity is a pretty big deal, imo.
Are we forgetting about the others?
Champ w/gem
Captain M
Surfer
HulkNo one is taking Hulk out, or Champ in a brawn fight, they are there to reek some hella havok, kicking all types of ass.
Surfer and Cap' are the speed blitzers, they're gonna kill 50% of the big guys with the blitz's.
Strange's biggest role is leader and playing supreme defence, by giving the other protection and sending out hords of demons on earth to attack.
Relocating the true heavy hitters, Thor and the like, to another dimention.
<<Champ w/gem - will take THor easily>>
easily my arse. thor went toe to toe with drax when drax had the gem, and herc did the same. could champ survive a full unleashed god blast? ss put champ down, so i'm guessing not . . .
xavier, nate, cable, emma frost can work together (xavier may be able to do it alone) to take out ss.
cm is a bad mofo, but again, too many other powerful mofos out there. of course this group could take on most small groups of heroes. but you said they want the world - heroes and villains would team up to stop them. and i'll grant it's debatable what mm could do to strange, but molecule man could waste the others. he's above skyfather.
and here are the scans - dr strange #12
this one shows strange being pummeled by the executioner, but his shields are still holding. enchantress is also pestering him.
the second one shows his shields fading. in the first panel he claims he could take either alone, but that he doesn't think he can beat them together. near the end, his shields are fading, he says he can only stand a couple more hits then that's it. then clea (unseen til the next page) blasts the enchantress and saves strange's arse. i've always loved strange, long . . .
Originally posted by leonidas
<<Champ w/gem - will take THor easily>>easily my arse. thor went toe to toe with drax when drax had the gem, and herc did the same. could champ survive a full unleashed god blast? ss put champ down, so i'm guessing not . . .
xavier, nate, cable, emma frost can work together (xavier may be able to do it alone) to take out ss.
cm is a bad mofo, but again, too many other powerful mofos out there. of course this group could take on most small groups of heroes. but you said they want the world - heroes and villains would team up to stop them. and i'll grant it's debatable what mm could do to strange, but molecule man could waste the others. he's above skyfather.
and here are the scans - dr strange #12
this one shows strange being pummeled by the executioner, but his shields are still holding. enchantress is also pestering him.
Originally posted by leonidas
<<Champ w/gem - will take THor easily>>easily my arse. thor went toe to toe with drax when drax had the gem, and herc did the same. could champ survive a full unleashed god blast? ss put champ down, so i'm guessing not . . .
xavier, nate, cable, emma frost can work together (xavier may be able to do it alone) to take out ss.
cm is a bad mofo, but again, too many other powerful mofos out there. of course this group could take on most small groups of heroes. but you said they want the world - heroes and villains would team up to stop them. and i'll grant it's debatable what mm could do to strange, but molecule man could waste the others. he's above skyfather.
and here are the scans - dr strange #12
this one shows strange being pummeled by the executioner, but his shields are still holding. enchantress is also pestering him.
SS will smoke most of them , with his speed , and if he gets mad he will just blow them up
how do you think thor GOT the gem?? thor fought drax AND maxam at the same time! herc and drax only went at it for a couple moments, then he eliminated maxam and then he beat down warlock. i've showed scans before. its an IW book - they both are i think. (i can never keep track of that blood and thunder storyline!)
Originally posted by leonidas
how do you think thor GOT the gem?? thor fought drax AND maxam at the same time! herc and drax only went at it for a couple moments, then he eliminated maxam and then he beat down warlock. i've showed scans before. its an IW book - they both are i think. (i can never keep track of that blood and thunder storyline!)
Drax got his stone jacked
Chap is another Story , he is not that dumb
like i said he will rip THor pretty easily , and then go on a rampage
thor hit drax and he, er, coughed it up in that fight. i'll grant there's a chance champ SHOULD win that fight, but it wouldn't be easy, with or without the gem. seriously, you think he'd take a full godblast after seeing ss put him down? i'm not saying thor would win a slugfest, but a few lightning bolts then a godblast? yeah, i still think thor has a chance to win that fight. he's battled the destroyer for a prolonged period of time in the past, and i'd put the destroyer above champ even with the gem. (that, by the way, would be a GREAT fight!!)
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Originally posted by leonidas
thor hit drax and he, er, coughed it up in that fight. i'll grant there's a chance champ SHOULD win that fight, but it wouldn't be easy, with or without the gem. seriously, you think he'd take a full godblast after seeing ss put him down? i'm not saying thor would win a slugfest, but a few lightning bolts then a godblast? yeah, i still think thor has a chance to win that fight. he's battled the destroyer for a prolonged period of time in the past, and i'd put the destroyer above champ even with the gem. (that, by the way, would be a GREAT fight!!)later
Thor hit drax ( this was mad thor , remember he was a lot more powerful than your average thor)
Drax --- without gem --- can go head to head with hulk , infact hulk said darx was more powerful
ss put him down? ---- SS whould put down thor pretty easily , in a what if he stoped his hammer.
SS has way too many powers to handle enimes.
for example
SS vs Hulk --- he defeated Hulk like he was nothing
--- He can take his gamma
SS vs Gladiator ---- Again , Gladiator speed won't help him here
------ SS has been said to be stonger than him , Brb multiple times
SS vs Quasar -------- In recent issue Quasar couldn't do jack shit to SS
SS vs Captain Marvel --------- He tarped his ass.
SS vs Firelord ------------------- He says that nothing Firelord does can hurt him since he can just absorb it if he wants.
SS vs Chamption ------------SS used his speed , to help him out
SS vs Korvac ------------------ World Destoying attacks had to effect on him.
SS now with all his power is way above Thor and can do so much more.
that's why SS is able to defeat people that thor might not.
as for Chap with power Gem ------------- Is near THanos's level
He will beat thor badly , thor attack won't do much damage
That's either when he was stripped of power(88ish somewhere around there), or some crazy circumstances were a-happenin'.
He isn't invincible, but his shields were fading? C'mon, they've taken multiple hits from death and galactus and a manifistation of Eternity without weakening.
Something is really wrong there.
Anyway, a well written Champ would smash Thor, with ease. And yes, he could take a GodBlast, he's taken hits from Thanos without any sign of pain.
I'd be hard pressed to believe even SS or Thanos should have beaten him.
But, the plot must go on! 😠
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"you have no idea how powerful Chamption is do you."
Apart from his first appearance when did he even looked impressive? We didnt even saw him fighting the strongest guys because he eliminated them before they actually fought. Then Ben broke his ribs.
Powerful? yes but lets not exagerate. He was portraited dumb as a door against Thanos.
"thor went toe to toe with drax when drax had the gem , and herc the same issue number? please"
Ill try to find the number. Both Thor and Herc where mind controlled i think and thus not holding back. Herc did the same to rax what Maxan did once. Tussed him into the ocean. Then he beat down the rest of infinite watch Warlock included.
"you have no idea how powerful Chamption is do you."
Apart from his first appearance when did he even looked impressive? We didnt even saw him fighting the strongest guys because he eliminated them before they actually fought. Then Ben broked his ribs.
Powerful? yes but lets not exagerate. He was portraited dumb as a door against Thanos.
"thor went toe to toe with drax when drax had the gem , and herc the same issue number? please"
Ill try to find the number. Both Thor and Herc where mind controlled i think and thus not holding back. Herc did the same to drax what Maxan did once. Tussed him into the ocean. Then he beat down the rest of infinite watch Warlock included.
"he's taken hits from Thanos without any sign of pain. "
Infinite Crusade. Prof Hulk and Hercules double team against Thanos. Both took punches and wherent down after the first.
That's what I mean by a "well written Champ'", you can not be as dumb as he is portrayed and still manage to master every single fighting style to ever exist.
I mean, really.
He's billions and billions of years old, and spends all his time training, for christs sake, it takes massive ammounts of intelligence to master any complex martial art, and he knows them all.
The best showing was when he put Drax,Gladiator,Surfer,Beta ray and Hulk in hospitol beds after fighting each one in a row.
He can have limitless strength, speed and basically limitless any power he wants with the power gem. So, yeah, (a well written Champ)he'd eat Thor.
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In this thread someone already said it before me. Thor has blow a planet before ( no not that kind of blow 😄 ).
The size of the planet ( and in this i agree wth long pic ) doesnt matter. Its a planet noneless.
Both Surfer and Thor have that kind of feats. Combat feats tho Thor has more. Surfer with all his powers is at heart a pacifist not a warrior.
"That's what I mean by a "well written Champ'", you can not be as dumb as he is portrayed and still manage to master every single fighting style to ever exist."
Thats my complain the guy practically is always written as dumb considering the experince he has.
Alot more than Thor us written like that and Herc. And both have theyr moments 😛