New Defenders vs Marvel Earth.

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Looks like after the 30th billion year with the power gem, he'da figured out "wow, I can give myself any physical power I want! wee" or something, jesus...😠

Sometimes, he's used to make another guy look better, but Champion ALWAYS deliberately reduces his natural constitution to give his opponents a fair chance in his battles, so whatever.

I always thought about him ending up being a martial arts teacher for super beings, that'd be sweet.

Anyways, my defenders own Marvel Earth......no one shall thwart the will of swarthy five!

-edit- In reference to the fight with Thing and Champ...

He fought the Thing and defeated him, but the Thing would not surrender; when forced to choose between killing his defeated opponent or yielding, the Champion yielded.

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Its a matter of getting used to 😮 but i will.

And yeah Champion was created to job. Hes the defination of Jobber at Marvel. In fact all the elders except the Gamesmaster and Runner dont look impressive at all. To me at least.

True, but for some reason, I'm some how oddly a fanboy of him.

I like the fact he has honor and he's the greatest fighter to ever exist, and he is billions of years old.
Me and quickfreeze have a claim to fame as being a fanboy of a super abscure character.

The Elders should be impressive, but they aren't written well.

The runner is faster than Flash.
Champ w/gem is stronger(he punched a planet in half accidently)/faster/more durable than Superman, so on and so forth.

There is no single being capable of beating (a well written)Champ in a pure h2h fight. All of his powers are limitless.
Doesn't tire can become infinitly strong and can do multiples of light speed.
His body is powered by something that is compaired to a nuclear engine.

He has the power primordial, which is >>power cosmic.

He's only held back by morals and absurd PIS.

But, he seriously owns.

My Defenders own even harder 😈

oh, yeah, champ'd eat thor. 🙂

maybe you're not too sure how powerful THOR is. here's a reminder

and yes, that IS EXITAR whom thor 'jostles'. surfer's blasts do literally NOTHING to odin and galactus. surfer has beaten champ and thor has STAGGERED the second most powerful of the CELESTIALS!!

oh, yeah, ss and champ would eat thor. you guys must be ^%$#in' kidding . . .

and molecule man and sentry are supposedly ABOVE thor!! long, your defenders go down. thor, sentry and molecule man alone could do it.

Originally posted by leonidas
oh, yeah, champ'd eat thor. 🙂

maybe you're not too sure how powerful THOR is. here's a reminder

Champion with power Gem = Thanos (at prime) ---- In power at least > Silver Surfer
Champion without Power Gem, power P =< Silver Sufer( when actually trying)

Silver Surfer > Gladiator (confident) > Thor > Hulk

Champion > Hulk, Thor, Thing, Namor etc

Thing of Champion a cosmic Juggernaut ( when he has his power gem ) ---- he can&#8217;t be hurt , as you have seen in Thanos vs Champion

Don&#8217;t bring mad Thor, normal Thor can't match champion, even Mad thor would last against Champion with power gem.

As you know all the heros were holding back when they battle mad thor before power gem.

Because when thor jacked the power gem from drax --- Silver Sufer said we can&#8217;t hold back like we did before.

Ya he can always try to jack it, but Champion is not Drax.

I can't believe you say Thor won't get own here ( with someone like Chap (with power gem), but superman would have a chance thor? That&#8217;s just funny

champ doesn't have supes speed, or anywhere NEAR his brains. he'd run in looking to slug it out and eat a godblast that staggered at friggin' celestial. and thor would certainly beat supes as well. just not everytime. and don't forget, you're saying thor would get KILLED by champ - i'm saying thor has a chance to win the fight. and what does the scan prove??? dude, sometimes i wonder about you . . . it proves thor has power enough to stagger a friggin' celestial!! you gotta at LEAST admit thor could last long enough against champ for molecule man and sentry and juggs and any of the eternals who felt like getting into the mix, to wipe out the other 'defenders'. if you actually think like long that these defenders can take over earth, you're as crazy as he is. if you want more convincing, read the thread i started about 10 000 WHITE MARTIANS (you know, 10 000 MARTIAN MANHUNTER level guys - major telepathy, light speed attacks, . . .) trying to take marvel earth. some people convinced me that even THEY couldn't do it. but these 4 will??? not a chance in hell . . .

and where exactly did you got it into your head that ss is more powerful than thor? it certainly has never been shown in a book. world breaking feats? that's it? do you know what that godblast that staggered a celestial (who stand around as galaxies are destroyed in their presence!) would do to a planet!? even throwing out mad thor, thor HELD BACK and stalemated a LOKI-ENHANCED ss! if thor chose to, he could simply sit around absorbing ss power cosmic all day long! there is even precedent (though it is never brought up here for some reason) for thor being able to CONTINUALLY drain an opponents energy once it has been directed at him. ss blasts, thor absorbs and KEEPS absorbing - same as he did to vector of the u-foes - and drains him or weakens him so badly thor crushes him.

energy types don't do well against thor. ss is no different. ss can't do jack sh!t to thor and mjollnir.

champ doesn't have supes speed, or anywhere NEAR his brains. he'd run in looking to slug it out and eat a godblast that staggered at friggin' celestial. and thor would certainly beat supes as well. just not everytime. and don't forget, you're saying thor would get KILLED by champ - i'm saying thor has a chance to win the fight. and what does the scan prove??? dude, sometimes i wonder about you . . . it proves thor has power enough to stagger a friggin' celestial!! you gotta at LEAST admit thor could last long enough against champ for molecule man and sentry and juggs and any of the eternals who felt like getting into the mix, to wipe out the other 'defenders'. if you actually think like long that these defenders can take over earth, you're as crazy as he is. if you want more convincing, read the thread i started about 10 000 WHITE MARTIANS (you know, 10 000 MARTIAN MANHUNTER level guys - major telepathy, light speed attacks, . . .) trying to take marvel earth. some people convinced me that even THEY couldn't do it. but these 4 will??? not a chance in hell . . .

Power Gem = Infinite Power

you have seen what drax did with powergem
you have seen what madthor did with powergem
you have seen what champ did with powergem

it's almost imposible to beat them in fights when they have these gem

Yes thor's attack are stong ---- i have said this myself , now you go on saying Thor could hurt a friggin' celestial , but supes with mach speed will be able to beat thor?

and supes weakness is Magic

and by the way a celestial were just toying with him , Celestial whould own all skyfathers.

Molecule man---- he is a hero buddy? this guy whould own them all by himself.

who are the top marvel heroes(stonngest)?

and where exactly did you got it into your head that ss is more powerful than thor? it certainly has never been shown in a book. world breaking feats? that's it? do you know what that godblast that staggered a celestial (who stand around as galaxies are destroyed in their presence!) would do to a planet!? even throwing out mad thor, thor HELD BACK and stalemated a LOKI-ENHANCED ss! if thor chose to, he could simply sit around absorbing ss power cosmic all day long! there is even precedent (though it is never brought up here for some reason) for thor being able to CONTINUALLY drain an opponents energy once it has been directed at him. ss blasts, thor absorbs and KEEPS absorbing - same as he did to vector of the u-foes - and drains him or weakens him so badly thor crushes him. energy types don't do well against thor. ss is no different. ss can't do jack sh!t to thor and mjollnir.

In a what if SS power cosmic actually stops his hammer , like I said he can to that all day , or just knock his hammer out of his hand using his speed.

Thor's hammer will hurt even surfer (only few things can)

But let&#8217;s see
- Beyond light speed, and reaction -------- this would put thor down every time
- Manipulate matter ---- at a cosmic level
- Time Travel
- Dimension Travel
- Exit Eternity
- Force field
- Change his form
Etc his power list goes on&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;

SS has too many powers he can do virtually anything

Thor vs Hulk ----- Hulk puts good fight
SS vs Hulk --------- SS with cosmic blast easily defeats Hulk.

Thor vs Korvac ----------- Thor couldn't last
Korvac had to use world destroying attack on Silver Surfer

Thor been severely damage by Physical attacks (like hulk), while SS doesn&#8217;t

etc SS would own Thor in speed , and power department.

Ok i've been reading your posts and these are my reactions

'SS vs Gladiator ---- Again , Gladiator speed won't help him here
------ SS has been said to be stonger than him , Brb multiple times'

In the strength department Surfer has never done anything that is on the same level as Glads, If im wrong please prove it. He's definately more powerful but stronger I don't think so!!!!!!!!

'Anyway, a well written Champ would smash Thor, with ease. And yes, he could take a GodBlast, he's taken hits from Thanos without any sign of pain.
I'd be hard pressed to believe even SS or Thanos should have beaten him.'

😠 Take a God blast what the F@(k ????????

Didn't Thing break one of Champ's ribs when he had the power Gem
In the recent She Hulk serries everyone who whent up against Champ before She Hulk thought they could have beaten Champ if they had been able to use all there powers.

Pip even says that Warlock blasted him with the soul Gem and was Quoted as saying 'he didn't even know what hit him!!!!!!!!'

Thanos recently used his most powerful blast to knock Galactus over and even he admited that his attack was far short of Hurting Galactus!!!!!!!!!!!!

The God blast made Galactus piss his pants

'you can not be as dumb as he is portrayed and still manage to master every single fighting style to ever exist'
Then how the **** did She Hulk beat him ????????????

thanks yahman, i thouhgt it was just me . . .

🙂

In the strength department Surfer has never done anything that is on the same level as Glads, If im wrong please prove it. He's definately more powerful but stronger I don't think so!!!!!!!!

Take a God blast what the F@(k ???????? Didn't Thing break one of Champ's ribs when he had the power Gem In the recent She Hulk serries everyone who whent up against Champ before She Hulk thought they could have beaten Champ if they had been able to use all there powers. Pip even says that Warlock blasted him with the soul Gem and was Quoted as saying 'he didn't even know what hit him!!!!!!!!' Thanos recently used his most powerful blast to knock Galactus over and even he admited that his attack was far short of Hurting Galactus!!!!!!!!!!!! The God blast made Galactus piss his pants 'you can not be as dumb as he is portrayed and still manage to master every single fighting style to ever exist' Then how the **** did She Hulk beat him ????????????

He easily overpowers: Thor , Hulk , Thing etc at the same time

Champ vs She Hulk ---- Champ powers were removed.

Galactus piss his pants --- When not looking, and ignoring Thor

Thor hammer couldn't even get pass, a weak Galactus&#8217;s shield , let alone hurt him

Thor can never hurt G when he thinks thor is more than a insect

but kg, i'm glad you agree. these defenders have no chance.

by the way, that celestial damaging attack took forever to summon - it'd never hit supes. and what ifs are evidence of NOTHING. wolovie killed hulk. nuff said.

Originally posted by leonidas
but kg, i'm glad you agree. these defenders have no chance.

by the way, that celestial damaging attack took forever to summon - it'd never hit supes. and what ifs are evidence of NOTHING. wolovie killed hulk. nuff said.

who made the Defender look like kids

what ifs are evidence of NOTHING --- of course , i was just showing you what power cosmic can do.

like you said Thor has hard time hitting Spiderman , he isn't touching SS when going faster than light.

I was thinking it was against heroes lol

Marvel earth owns them

MM would own all of them

😮‍💨 'thanks yahman, i thouhgt it was just me . . .'

😮‍💨 Its alright dude

'No Chap was toying with the Thing, and champ beats him badly'

So he let all his defenses down and let the Thing break his ribs. Well if that is the case you've just gone and proved someone elses post that he is a complete moron !!!!!!

I've seen wolverine and Cap go against peeps who are thousands of times stronger than them and still fair well. This is down mainly to their fighting Skills. If Champion is a master of all fighting Skills in the universe how did She Hulk have a chance against him??????????

I mean i know she is alot stronger than she was but how much stronger can weight training make you. Champ has always been a Class 100 character, even without the power gem so even with She hulks new found strength they can't be that far apart.

Surely his immense fighting Skills would tip the scales in his favour???????????

'you have seen what drax did with powergem
you have seen what madthor did with powergem
you have seen what champ did with powergem'

I aslo have read about Titania with the power Gem and she Sucked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by yahman
😮‍💨 'thanks yahman, i thouhgt it was just me . . .'

😮‍💨 Its alright dude

'No Chap was toying with the Thing, and champ beats him badly'

So he let all his defenses down and let the Thing break his ribs. Well if that is the case you've just gone and proved someone elses post that he is a complete moron !!!!!!

I've seen wolverine and Cap go against peeps who are thousands of times stronger than them and still fair well. This is down mainly to their fighting Skills. If Champion is a master of all fighting Skills in the universe how did She Hulk have a chance against him??????????

I mean i know she is alot stronger than she was but how much stronger can weight training make you. Champ has always been a Class 100 character, even without the power gem so even with She hulks new found strength they can't be that far apart.

Surely his immense fighting Skills would tip the scales in his favour???????????

'you have seen what drax did with powergem
you have seen what madthor did with powergem
you have seen what champ did with powergem'

are you saying Thing whould put Cham down or give him any touble?

Champ easily overpowered : Hulk , THor , THing

read when SS fights Champ ---- Champ broke his ribs , and he was sent to hospital.

I aslo have read about Titania with the power Gem and she Sucked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Champ had the gem for years he is expericed , you won't be able to hurt him.

She hulk ---- i already told you he was powered down(by LT).

'are you saying Thing would put Champ down or give him any trouble?'

'Champ had the gem for years he is experienced , you won't be able to hurt him.'

No I'm not saying that Benn would give him any trouble. I thought i made i perfectly clear what i meant but my England is not exactly tip top!

😉

If Benn broke his ribs, then he is very hurt-able (if that is even a word)

Your excuse for Benn breaking his ribs was that he was holding back.

Well if thats the case i kinda backfired pretty badly!!!!!! Which suggests he's not the sharpest tool in the box's.

This was a point which was made quite evident in the fight against thanos. I mean he broke a planet in half by mistake what a Friking Ret@rd!!!!!!!

Who the hell is L.T ???????? You don't mean the Living Tribunal????????

😛 Well even if that is the case he is unlikely to have taken away all his fighting knowledge. Knowledge he should have been using to beat She Hulks @sss.

heheh. it's kind of fun being on the OUTSIDE and watching someone ELSE beat kg in a debate.

🙂

just kidding, kg . . .

ps-yes LT is living tribunal. and nice titania reference!! yep, power gem made her a cosmic threat . . . hehehh