Who Takes Ryu Down Wolverine DeathStroke or Spidey

Started by EvilCap America45 pages

Personally id like to know the Canon story from Capcom themselves.Looking at te games Sakura a teenage girl can compete with them to some extent [storylinewise gameplaywise shes usually better 😄 ] and they dont exactly look like superhumans that whip Supermans behind

Also Akumas big feats are only in SF3 endings.Are any of those endings Canon to the storyline[Knowing that not every ending in their games truely happens?It seems to me that its just a "Splooge over Akumas uberness" moment with with no more real ties to the actual story than Zangeif slamming E.Honda to destroy the Psycho drive or Bison walking through a nuke then dying to Charlies machine gun fire

Spiderman, Wolverine and Deathstroke wins this match easily even on 1 on 1 against Ryu because those three are alot stronger and much better fighter than Ryu.

And don't even add the SF3 endings and all the SF other endings because that is not Canon to the "Original Storyline" of the Street Fighter.

Those endings are fakes for example if you finish M.Bison he will finally accomplish his goals and then if you finish the game with Ryu he will kill M.Bison with his Hadouken. You see there are too many endings on all the Street Fighter.

Originally posted by jinzin
all I'm saying: in every form of media I ever see they are rouphly comparible to what their namesakes imply..making them streetfighters..... ryu's been beat down by balrog in a feww different series' of comics, ken's nearly been killed by vega in one comic series and one show episode, ryu almost got beat up by guile in a comic book adaptation of the animated movie, in the animated movie fei long gave ryu a good run for his money, quite honestly, the american cartoon, and alpha are just about the best chances/incarnations I see ryu having to win any of these fights here... not hat I don't think he could do it...but I certainly wouldn't claim ryu to be at godly levels..

JinZin, you realize tha Ryu was playing with Fei Long, it was quite easy match for him. He got beat by Guile, cause he wasn't expereicend, in the end he was far beyond Guile.

Originally posted by EvilCap America
Personally id like to know the Canon story from Capcom themselves.Looking at te games Sakura a teenage girl can compete with them to some extent [storylinewise gameplaywise shes usually better 😄 ] and they dont exactly look like superhumans that whip Supermans behind

Also Akumas big feats are only in SF3 endings.Are any of those endings Canon to the storyline[Knowing that not every ending in their games truely happens?It seems to me that its just a "Splooge over Akumas uberness" moment with with no more real ties to the actual story than Zangeif slamming E.Honda to destroy the Psycho drive or Bison walking through a nuke then dying to Charlies machine gun fire

Canon are, when Akuma and Ryu fights, where Akuma destroy island with one punch. The canon is when Ryu rejects Psycho power of Bison, cause Ryu inner power is beyond and he deafets Bison with on punch=canon. Fight with Oro is canon, where Oro sees in Ryu as the being with greates inner power.
Here is everyhitng what is officail and what is considered as canon. It's extremely deteailed. Zangief is gay=canon.
Paneg go home,. no on will take you seriously, writting they are better fighter than Ryu=sad knoledge and sad logic (why sad logic, street fighters, Ryu, Akuma lives for training, whole life improving, it just more than sad Paneg).

http://kattuggla.oru.se/dmd01/dm0103/test/faqs/SFplotguide40.txt

Most of your counter arguement is based on computer games Xplosive. And if you're thinking clearly you know that games are not canon because there are "too many endings".

That's all I have to say.

paeng, that is why I said what is canon (like Ryu vs Akuma), in SF3 ending with Ryu is canon, in SF3 Ken ending is not canon. In SF3 there are only few ending that are canon, 80 % are not. That is why I gave link, to see yourself what is considered in all SF games as canon and what not. And as I remember, I thinkevery Ryu ending in any SF games was canon.

My point is, games is not 100% canon because that storyline will never happen in the Street Fighter comics.

Originally posted by paeng
Spiderman, Wolverine and Deathstroke wins this match easily even on 1 on 1 against Ryu because those three are alot stronger and much better fighter than Ryu.

And don't even add the SF3 endings and all the SF other endings because that is not Canon to the "Original Storyline" of the Street Fighter.

Those endings are fakes for example if you finish M.Bison he will finally accomplish his goals and then if you finish the game with Ryu he will kill M.Bison with his Hadouken. You see there are too many endings on all the Street Fighter.

NO!!! Ryu is capable of handing these three on his best showings, easily. REad street fighter!

They are not a better fighter, no way no how, not all three of them combined, and they don't use their skills like ryu. Wolverine jumps into all of his attacks.

Originally posted by jinzin
all I'm saying: in every form of media I ever see they are rouphly comparible to what their namesakes imply..making them streetfighters..... ryu's been beat down by balrog in a feww different series' of comics, ken's nearly been killed by vega in one comic series and one show episode, ryu almost got beat up by guile in a comic book adaptation of the animated movie, in the animated movie fei long gave ryu a good run for his money, quite honestly, the american cartoon, and alpha are just about the best chances/incarnations I see ryu having to win any of these fights here... not hat I don't think he could do it...but I certainly wouldn't claim ryu to be at godly levels..

the hell?

that's the way he's been presented...has a person who uses different TYPES of regular bat suits in diff situations....you don't like it, that's fine... but damn...are these characters not supposed to be allowed their best?

everyone here seems to think that spiderman can outmanuever and outdodge one of batmans batarangs with a homing device, but that batman's gonna show up to the fight in a damned kevlar scuba suit...the hell kind of bias is that? [/QUOTE]

There you answered your own question, and Ryu murdered fei long, this is a non match seriously. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by EvilCap America
Personally id like to know the Canon story from Capcom themselves.Looking at te games Sakura a teenage girl can compete with them to some extent [storylinewise gameplaywise shes usually better 😄 ] and they dont exactly look like superhumans that whip Supermans behind

Also Akumas big feats are only in SF3 endings.Are any of those endings Canon to the storyline[Knowing that not every ending in their games truely happens?It seems to me that its just a "Splooge over Akumas uberness" moment with with no more real ties to the actual story than Zangeif slamming E.Honda to destroy the Psycho drive or Bison walking through a nuke then dying to Charlies machine gun fire

You know that akuma can walk the ocean floor and such, just like you know that DD has beaten 100 ninjas

Spiderman is way better than Ryu because he has superspeed and super strength, everybody knows that one strong punch from Spidey and Ryu's head will fall off.

Wolverine is much better too because because he has unbreakable bones, healing factor and three claws and he has a great fighting ability one swing of his claws and the battle is over.

About Deathstroke, I don't know much about him but I know he has a healing factor too.

Originally posted by paeng
Spiderman is way better than Ryu because he has superspeed and super strength, everybody knows that one strong punch from Spidey and Ryu's head will fall off.

Wolverine is much better too because because he has unbreakable bones, healing factor and three claws and he has a great fighting ability one swing of his claws and the battle is over.

About Deathstroke, I don't know much about him but I know he has a healing factor too.

You know alot about the marvel side, but you arent familiar with sf. The characters there a far stronger and more better fighters, vega has claws, bison can freeze time, balrog ko's elephants, these guys are simply outclassed when ryu is at their best.

Do you think these guys can beat a character that can crush a meteor?

The regular SF cast at their best beat these guys hands down, you should read up on street fighter more, to get a better understanding.

paeng, saying Spider-Man is faster (Ryu who can move faster than eye can see) and stronger is showing you have no knowledge of SFU. But why are you arguing and defending those three and going against Ryu, while you don't even know who Ryu is (except that he is character from SF).

Basically.

Wait a minute - I read all the links you guys posted about SF and NO WHERE does it say Ryu is capable of moving faster than the eye can see. The most impressive thing in Xplosive's link to the CANON GUIDE is Akuma's feats in the end. And ACCORDING TO CANON, the SF story ends there, which means that Ryu still is NOT at that level yet. No dodging bullets, no freezing time, no crushing meteors, nothing.

Ryu loses to Spidey and Deathstroke and can't figure out how to put Wolverine down for any length of time.

Whoa hold on!!

Again it depends on which comic you mean, in his best feats, spiderman wins easily, on bad comics he loses.

At the misunderstanding of the thread starter, the information, is too inspecific, but why would I go with a 1/10 power of a character, when he can and others can do superhuman feats.

Well, Xplosive sort of self-destructed your own argument when he posted that guide. In order to keep things fair, you HAVE to go by canon. Which means you can't deviate from the feats and actions listed in Xplosive's official Capcom canon guide. So if the Capcom canon guide doesn't have Ryu dodging bullets, then Ryu can't dodge bullets. Anything else is basically fanfic for profit, and you don't want to go by fanfic versions, because Marvel fanfic characters do some CRAAAAZY stuff.

What are you going by, by the way? If not the official canon, or the SF animated series, or SF animated movie, or DDP...what IS your source?

Originally posted by demigawd
Well, Xplosive sort of self-destructed your own argument when he posted that guide. In order to keep things fair, you HAVE to go by canon. Which means you can't deviate from the feats and actions listed in Xplosive's official Capcom canon guide. So if the Capcom canon guide doesn't have Ryu dodging bullets, then Ryu can't dodge bullets. Anything else is basically fanfic for profit, and you don't want to go by fanfic versions, because Marvel fanfic characters do some CRAAAAZY stuff.

What are you going by, by the way? If not the official canon, or the SF animated series, or SF animated movie, or DDP...what IS your source?

Not true, its the alpha series, its older, but deals with akuma and ryu, when akuma punched an island down, and there are mystical characters like Gill and such that are immortal.

Even in the movie, Guile took out an area of landscape and trees by a sonic boom!

This thread is too inspecific to efffectively debate. I agree at one time, I thought why would anyone put ryu against guys like spiderman, than I read some of their feats, and my ideals changed.

Again the thread starter was curios, and didn't put up an actual sorce like (superman prime), and such.

But the fact that they blew up mountians and such was indeed canon. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Not true, its the alpha series, its older, but deals with akuma and ryu, when akuma punched an island down, and there are mystical characters like Gill and such that are immortal.

Even in the movie, Guile took out an area of landscape and trees by a sonic boom!

This thread is too inspecific to efffectively debate. I agree at one time, I thought why would anyone put ryu against guys like spiderman, than I read some of their feats, and my ideals changed.

Again the thread starter was curios, and didn't put up an actual sorce like (superman prime), and such.

But the fact that they blew up mountians and such was indeed canon. 😮‍💨

It's not just the Alpha Guide. I just read it - it includes Third Strike, the final canon street fighter. That's where it mentioned Akuma creating an explosion on Ayers Rock. And nobody else but Akuma showed that kind of power. If this thread were to say, "Who takes down Akuma from the end of SF3 - Wolverine, Deathstroke or Spidey", I might be a little inclined to vote against the Marvel characters (though Spidey has beaten planetary level characters like Surfer, and Deathstroke has fought Wonder Woman to a standstill). But according to the OFFICIAL CANON GUIDE, Ryu hasn't done anything near that level. Again, you can't go by the movie or obscure one-off comics, because they aren't official or recognized by Capcom. If you're going to debate Street Fighter characters on this forum, you're limited to canon, and Xplosive's canon guide is in plain sight now. Go yell at him for spoiling it for you, lol.

Originally posted by Xplosive
JinZin, you realize tha Ryu was playing with Fei Long, it was quite easy match for him. He got beat by Guile, cause he wasn't expereicend, in the end he was far beyond Guile.

no i know about street fighter v and how far above guile he was there... but in a comic book adaptation of the animated movie guile was taking it to ryu, as far as fei long goes, he gave ryu a decent run for his money and he's just another human being.....