Dooku, Vader, and Maul vs. Anakin, Luke, and Obi-wan

Started by General Zodiac4 pagesPoll

Who'll win?

Dooku, Vader, and Maul vs. Anakin, Luke, and Obi-wan

Which team will win?
Anakin= ROTS
Luke=ROTJ
Obi-Wan= TPM

Dooku= ATOC
Vader= ESB
Maul= TPM

well dookus the same in AOTC as he is in ROTS, so anakin would beat him. Luke takes Vader, Maul takes Obi Wan.anakin and Luke take Maul. simple as pie, the jeedai take it while losing Obi Wan

For the record. Dooku didn't use form II in ROTS.

for the record it doesnt matter

Originally posted by General Zodiac
For the record. Dooku didn't use form II in ROTS.

Actually he does, according to the book anyway. And for the fight, I agree with what Human Vader said exactly.

Obi-Wan defeated Darth Maul.

That doesn't mean that would always happen. Maul clearly had Obi at his mercy and if they were at a different location with different circumstances (Qui-Gon not dying for instance and having a flat bare room with no pit) than Maul would probably win. I think Darth Maul would've defeated Obi-Wan in almost any other location.

This may go against what others will say, but here goes.

Dooku and Anakin would fight to a draw. Yes I realize Anakin flat out punked him in ROTS, but I truly believe that Dooku wasen't trying. I think palps made him lose there, so Dooku agreed. Little did Dooku know, that after Anakin had him down, palps would turn on Dooku and have anakin actually kill him. Under different circumstances, Dooku could hold off anakin probably for a long ass time.

Vader would beat Luke. Yes I also know that Luke beats Vader in the movie, but again, I don't think Vader was trying either. It was his son, and he was again not fighting to kill. He was just trying to get Luke in a position of vulnerability, so they could turn him to the dark side. Under different circumstances, vader is clearly stronger then ROTJ Luke.

Lastly, Maul would kill Obi wan. One more time, Yes I know it went the other way in the movie, but I feel it was quite clear that Maul totally owned both Jedi's at once. Despite him making a really stupid mistake and dying, he is clearly far superior to TPM obi wan in every way.

So although all three of the Siths ended up dying to the Jedi's, I believe that all three Siths under different circumstances could come out on top.

Oh ya, forgot to mention. After Vader beats luke, and Maul beats obi wan, they could both go and help Dooku take down Anakin.

Siths win, with no deaths...

I could see Dooku and Anakin lasting a long time, but your statement on Vader? No. Vader wasn't trying to kill Luke but he wasn't trying to lose either, he got owned. Luke wasn't trying to kill Vader either and the movie and novel clearly depicts Luke with the upper hand. Luke kicked Vader down the stairs, jumped clear over his lightsaber, and generally had Vader completely on the defensive struggling for oxygen.

I think Luke would own Vader just as fast as he did in the movie, about 40 seconds or so, Maul would take about 40 seconds to kill Obi (I realize it was longer in the movie but he had just been enraged by Qui-Gon's death) then ROTJ Luke would hold Maul off long enough for Anakin to kill Dooku and finish Maul.

Lucas is a lier then. Because Obi-Wan would have killed Maul with or without Qui-Gon's death.

Ya it's debatable. The only questionable one for me is the Vader and Luke duel. I'm not sure how that would go if they were both going 100%. I mean Luke has the potential to be stronger of course, but vader was supremely better trained. I still see Luke as more or less a farm boy in ROTJ. He had a few skills, but still a lot to learn. Nothing more then a padawan with potential at the time of ROTJ. No stronger then TPM obi wan I would imagine.

Maul would kill obi wan a whole lot faster then Luke would kill Vader. That means that even if Luke is better, he would have to fight both Maul and Vader at the same time. He would lose.

In these multi person duels, the advantage goes to the team that can get the first kill the fastest. I think in this case, Obi wan dies faster then anyone else, which gives the Sith 3 on 2 advantage first.

That's just how I see it. The last 10 seconds of Mauls life made him seem weak, but I think he is tremendously underestimated. Trained since birth by Palps himself for a long time. Able to manhandle two jedi's at once, one of them being Qui gon. Maul's a killer man. He's the swing char in this match up I believe.

Originally posted by Emperor Revan
That doesn't mean that would always happen. Maul clearly had Obi at his mercy and if they were at a different location with different circumstances (Qui-Gon not dying for instance and having a flat bare room with no pit) than Maul would probably win. I think Darth Maul would've defeated Obi-Wan in almost any other location.

so what, obiwan became more powerful as a master, why woudlent he have a chance at maul?

He said though, Obi wan TPM. Maul would own him just like he did in the movie, minus the last 10 seconds of lameness.

ROTS Obi is an entirely different ass kicker though. Throw him in the mix, and you have a definite win for the jedi's. BUt it's TPM obi, kind of a punk still unfortunetely...

Only reason Maul was about to win because he force pushed him into that hole. Obi-Wan was equal to Maul in swordsplay.

Well, I'm not sure if I agree with that - Obi-Wan was incredibly skilled when I see the fight in TPM, but Darth Maul could really handle himself in an amazing way.

Dooku would beat Anakin.
Luke would beat Vader.
Maul beats Obi-wan.
Dooku and Maul beat Luke.

Originally posted by General Zodiac
For the record. Dooku didn't use form II in ROTS.

Moron.

Originally posted by LordSorgo
Moron.

Moron as in, obviously he dident, or no u idiot, he did use form II becuz only one of those are acceptable, he dident use form II in the fight, he changed styles dramatically, but dident have the chance to use his form. Read ROTS by Matheew Stover.

Originally posted by Admiral Akbar
Moron as in, obviously he dident, or no u idiot, he did use form II becuz only one of those are acceptable, he dident use form II in the fight, he changed styles dramatically, but dident have the chance to use his form. Read ROTS by Matheew Stover.

Did Kit Fisto lose his head in ROTS? No.
Did Dooku change forms during the fight with Anakin? HELL NO!

He used Form II their entire fight. Trust me, i am a Lightsaber Form nerd and i have seen the Forms at work. He was using the whole Fight. The novel ain't got shit on Dooku.

I would rather believe the novel than the moive. And palps aimed at kits head in the movie, if you never noticed that....
Dooku changed styles, not just ROTs says that. You dont need to be a syle nerd when all u do is compare dooku (aotc) to (rots)