Re: What exactly is Heaven?
Originally posted by travesty87
I know there's a thread on what Hell is, so I was wondering what do you think Heaven is?
Is it just a happy mental state or another plane of existance?
I know it's usually seen as some kind of eternal reward after death.
The Buddhist principle of the oneness of self and environment (esho funi) means that life (sho) and its environment (e) are inseparable (funi). This means that although we perceive things around us as separate from us, there is a dimension of our lives that is one with the universe. At the most fundamental level of life itself, there is no separation between ourselves and the environment.
Life" means the subjective self that experiences the effects of past actions and is capable of creating new causes for the future. The environment is the objective realm where the karmic effects of life take shape. Each living being has his or her own unique environment, place or condition. For example, a person whose inner life is in a state of hell or suffering may perceive the environment of the inside of a crowded subway train as being hellish, while a person in the state who might manage to feel compassion and sense of joy makes a place a sense of camaraderie and serenity with fellow passengers.
People also create physical environments which reflect their inner reality. For instance, someone who is depressed is likely to neglect his home and personal appearance. On the other hand, someone who is secure and generous creates a warm and attractive environment around them. So, everything around us, including work and family relationships, is the reflection of our inner lives. Everything is perceived through the self and alters according to the individual's inner state of life. Thus, if we change ourselves(our minds) our circumstances will inevitably change also.
This is a liberating concept as it means that there is NO need to seek enlightenment outside ourselves or in a particular place(i.e after death). Wherever we are, in whatever circumstances, we can bring forth our innate reality, thus transforming our experience of our environment into Heavenly or "Pure land"--a joy-filled place where we create value of peace and harmony for ourselves and for others.
As my great teacher Nichiren wrote, "If the minds of the people are impure, their land is also impure, but if their minds are pure, so is their land. There are not two lands, pure(i.e heaven) and impure(i.e hell) in themselves. The difference lies solely in the good or evil of our minds."
Simply put Heaven is God's abode, God's home, God's house. Heaven is not a state of mind or figment of the imagination. Heaven is a "literal" place as revealed in God's Word (the holy Bible). All questions about what Heaven is should be researched from the Bible not from external sources. External sources (such as someone's personal testimony about Heaven) serve only to confirm what God has already said in His Word.
http://option-wizard.com/aa/17.shtml
http://members.aol.com/wnichint/heaven.html
Heaven is replete with opulence all around. God is so wealthy that His streets are made of gold (not lined with gold). The gates (and there are twelve of them) of New Jerusalem in Heaven are each solid pearl (not that little pearl that you are accustomed to seeing either).
Revelation 21:21
The twelve gates were twelve pearls: each individual gate was of one pearl. And the street of the city was pure gold, like transparent glass .
This is going to be my new hometown for eternity.
The entire city in Heaven (it is called New Jerusalem) is pure gold and it is surrounded by a wall made of jasper. The foundations of New Jerusalem are twelve precious stones.(
Revelation 21:18-20
18 The construction of its wall was of jasper ; and the city was pure gold, like clear glass . 19 The foundations of the wall of the city were adorned with all kinds of precious stones: the first foundation was jasper, the second sapphire, the third chalcedony, the fourth emerald, 20 the fifth sardonyx, the sixth sardius, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, and the twelfth amethyst.
The Bible does not really describe what Heaven looks like but it does describe what the Heavenly city, New Jerusalem, looks like. Heaven is not this city, but the city is a subset of Heaven. Heaven is perhaps a planet. The Bible does not say that so I will just stick to the Bible's description of New Jerusalem.
The wall of New Jerusalem, is made of Jasper and is 600 feet high, its length 1500 miles, and its width 1500 miles. I got one word to describe this: Wow! Amazing! Huge! New Jerusalem is half the distance of the United States, and it is a city! There isn't a city this large anywhere in the world.
http://www.hasilvestre.org.br/advir/imagens/GoldSat1/images/people%20in%20heaven%20happy.jpg (Heaven)
http://www.hasilvestre.org.br/advir/imagens/GoldSat1/images/new%20Jerusalem%20heaven%20city.jpg (New Jerusalem in Heaven)
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Revelation 21:21
The twelve gates were twelve pearls: each individual gate was of one pearl. And the street of the city was pure gold, like transparent glass
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You lying little shithead....in my previous thread GATES OF HEAVEN you argue that there are NO GATES...and NOW you argue that there ARE GATES ?????????
Another Contradiction....thanks a lot ! 🙄
Re: What exactly is Heaven?
Originally posted by travesty87
I know there's a thread on what Hell is, so I was wondering what do you think Heaven is?
Is it just a happy mental state or another plane of existance?
I know it's usually seen as some kind of eternal reward after death.
To me heaven is one of the ten worlds.
What are the The Ten Worlds?
One way that Buddhism explains life is through a concept known as "the ten worlds." These are ten states or conditions of life that we experience within ourselves and are then manifested throughout all aspects of our lives. Each of us possesses the potential for all ten, and we shift from one to another at any moment, according to our interaction with the environment. That is, at each moment, one of the ten worlds is being manifested and the other nine are dormant. From lowest to highest, they are:
Hell -- This is a state of suffering and despair, in which we perceive we have no freedom of action. It is characterized by the impulse to destroy ourselves and everything around us.
Hunger -- Hunger is the state of being controlled by insatiable desire for money, power, status, or whatever. While desires are inherent in any of the ten worlds, in this state we are at the mercy of our cravings and cannot control them.
Animality -- In this state, we are ruled by instinct. We exhibit neither reason nor moral sense nor the ability to make long-range judgments. In the world of Animality, we operate by the law of the jungle, so to speak. We will not hesitate to take advantage of those weaker than ourselves and fawn on those who are stronger.
Anger -- In this next state, awareness of ego emerges, but it is a selfish, greedy, distorted ego, determined to best others at all costs and seeing everything as a potential threat to itself. In this state we value only ourselves and tend to hold others in contempt. We are strongly attached to the idea of our own superiority and cannot bear to admit that anyone exceeds us in anything.
Humanity (also called Tranquillity) -- This is a flat, passive state of life, from which we can easily shift into the lower four worlds. While we may generally behave in a humane fashion in this state, we are highly vulnerable to strong external influences.
Heaven (or Rapture) -- This is a state of intense joy stemming, for example, from the fulfillment of some desire, a sense of physical well-being, or inner contentment. Though intense, the joy experienced in this state is short-lived and also vulnerable to external influences.
The six states from Hell to Heaven are called the six paths or six lower worlds. They have in common the fact that their emergence or disappearance is governed by external circumstances. Take the example of a man obsessed by the desire to find someone to love him (Hunger). When he at last does meet that person, he feels ecstatic and fulfilled (Heaven). By and by, potential rivals appear on the scene, and he is seized by jealousy (Anger). Eventually, his possessiveness drives his loved one away. Crushed by despair (Hell), he feels life is no longer worth living. In this way, many of us spend time shuttling back and forth among the six paths without ever realizing we are being controlled by our reactions to the environment. Any happiness or satisfaction to be gained in these states depends totally upon circumstances and is therefore transient and subject to change.
In these six lower worlds, we base our entire happiness, indeed our whole identity, on externals.
The next two states, Learning and Realization, come about when we recognize that everything experienced in the six paths is impermanent, and we begin to seek some lasting truth. These two states plus the next two, Bodhisattva and Buddhahood, are together called the four noble worlds. Unlike the six paths, which are passive reactions to the environment, these four higher states are achieved through deliberate effort.
Learning -- In this state, we seek the truth through the teachings or experience of others.
Realization -- This state is similar to Learning, except that we seek the truth not through others’ teachings but through our own direct perception of the world.
Learning and Realization are together called the "two vehicles." Having realized the impermanence of things, people in these states have won a measure of independence and are no longer prisoner to their own reactions as in the six paths. However, they often tend to be contemptuous of people in the six paths who have not yet reached this understanding. In addition, their search for truth is primarily self-oriented, so there is a great potential for egotism in these two states; and they may become satisfied with their progress without discovering the highest potential of human life in the ninth and tenth worlds.
Bodhisattva -- Bodhisattvas are those who aspire to achieve enlightenment and at the same time are equally determined to enable all other beings to do the same. Conscious of the bonds that link us to all others, in this state we realize that any happiness we alone enjoy is incomplete, and we devote ourselves to alleviating others’ suffering. Those in this state find their greatest satisfaction in altruistic behavior.
The states from Hell to Bodhisattva are collectively termed "the nine worlds." This expression is often used in contrast to the tenth world, the enlightened state of Buddhahood.
Buddhahood -- Buddhahood is a dynamic state that is difficult to describe. We can partially describe it as a state of perfect freedom, in which we are enlightened to the ultimate truth of life. It is characterized by infinite compassion and boundless wisdom. In this state, we can resolve harmoniously what appear from the standpoint of the nine worlds to be insoluble contradictions. A Buddhist sutra describes the attributes of the Buddha’s life as a true self, perfect freedom from karmic bonds throughout eternity, a life purified of illusion, and absolute happiness. Also, the state of Buddhahood is physically expressed in the Bodhisattva Way or actions of a Bodhisattva.
