Originally posted by Smasandian
I disagree. Old games seem to be fun because of gameplay but when you actually go back and play them, you'll find the experience completly different and generally boring.
The ones I mentioned, I play 3 or 4 times a week, this isn't just simple nostaliga.
Originally posted by Smasandian
There are a few games back in the day that were loads of fun and can still play well today, but generally alot of them arnt that good. Buy an Arcade Treasure game, or a Classic compliation game and you will see that most of them get very old quickly.
But classic mario, killer instict, sonic, dig dug, pac man, and others never do.
Originally posted by Smasandian
Playstation better gameplay? Thats your opinion but there is no way that PS was that much better than N64. Both had good games even though some of N64's games really came out, considering Goldeneye and Mario 64 revoultionized its genre.
Of course it is, but I loved those games you menitoned, but N64 offered little else, and its cartridges were inferior AND cost so damned much.
Originally posted by Smasandian
Rag Doll physics is old. The new thing for shooters is intergrating reallife physics.
I do agree that bad shooters are boring as hell. But you can say the same thing about bad fighters, bad platformers, bad puzzle games, bad driving games, bad RTS, bad Turn base strategies, bad RPG's and etc.etc. They're all boring if they suck.
But if you take HL2, you would see that it offered so many different areas and types of gameplay that it never got boring, well to me of course.
Originally posted by Smasandian
And for a boring game, try Joint Ops. that game is crap.
About old games not being fun, thats simply not true in many cases.
I picked up Doom, it's still brilliant. It's still fun. Duke Nukem 3D is still great. The original Star Wars arcade machine from 1977 I played the other day was a joy aswell.
I was hooked on Ninja Turtles 4: Turtles In Time (the old arcade scrolling beatem'up that I was glued to in my childhood) and I didn't stop until I finished it. Also, the likes of Mario and 16-bit Sonic games never age.
Old games aren't as impressive, but some stand the test of time very well.
Originally posted by Red Superfly
About old games not being fun, thats simply not true in many cases.I picked up Doom, it's still brilliant. It's still fun. Duke Nukem 3D is still great. The original Star Wars arcade machine from 1977 I played the other day was a joy aswell.
I was hooked on Ninja Turtles 4: Turtles In Time (the old arcade scrolling beatem'up that I was glued to in my childhood) and I didn't stop until I finished it. Also, the likes of Mario and 16-bit Sonic games never age.
Old games aren't as impressive, but some stand the test of time very well.
I love turtles in time, and ILOVE DUKE, some people just like tech and flashy graphics. I still have the original gameboy, gamegear, genesis, supernintendo, and playstation. I love GOOD games, not shinier ones.
N64 offered alot more than that. Your giving it less credit that what it deserves. The cartidges are inferior but thats not a reason why N64 didnt offer anything.
Their are tons of good games for N64 and also PS. Both were capable systems but in terms of quality, N64 was ahead of the PS.
Their are games that dont age like Mario and Sonic, and I'm definitly going to play alot of them on the Revoultion when it comes out. But you also have to remember the ton of crappy games that came out that you forget. Everybody is mentioning popular and genre defining games like Duke Nukem, Sonic, Mario, Doom, Pac Man. These are the staples from the golden age of videogames. Of course, they're still going to be fun.
But what about the cloned games that stole from all those games. Does anybody ever play those?
Old school gaming can be quite boring also. Gameplay makes a game good, but can also make the game crap.
Originally posted by Smasandian
N64 offered alot more than that. Your giving it less credit that what it deserves. The cartidges are inferior but thats not a reason why N64 didnt offer anything.
Their are tons of good games for N64 and also PS. Both were capable systems but in terms of quality, N64 was ahead of the PS.Their are games that dont age like Mario and Sonic, and I'm definitly going to play alot of them on the Revoultion when it comes out. But you also have to remember the ton of crappy games that came out that you forget. Everybody is mentioning popular and genre defining games like Duke Nukem, Sonic, Mario, Doom, Pac Man. These are the staples from the golden age of videogames. Of course, they're still going to be fun.
But what about the cloned games that stole from all those games. Does anybody ever play those?
Old school gaming can be quite boring also. Gameplay makes a game good, but can also make the game crap.
I liked it, but not the games as much.
Gameplay of old school games were repetitive, but were made to be fun, most aren't sophisticated and you can dive right in. As a working man I like to play for 10 minutes, seeing long load screens and starting up, takes 10 minutes in some cases for new games.
did someone mean to say most uninspired game? I have played only few games that conveyed any kind of inspiration at all. However, the most uninspiring game that i have ever played was big mutha truckers, and doom3. Also, danger, what does god of war have to owe to ninja gaiden? GOW was more universal and diddnt have the worst camera system in the world.
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
did someone mean to say most uninspired game? I have played only few games that conveyed any kind of inspiration at all. However, the most uninspiring game that i have ever played was big mutha truckers, and doom3. Also, danger, what does god of war have to owe to ninja gaiden? GOW was more universal and diddnt have the worst camera system in the world.
Weapon upgrades that increase combo ability, button tap combos to escape certain situations. The whole combat structure. In my opinion Ninja Gaiden just does it better.
And if you start up about how Ninja Gaiden borrowed it off game x (which it no doubt does), I will personally slap you because you can pitch that circular argument at the vast majority of games these days. As I said before NG just does it better.
As for the camera angles, have you played any survival horror games lately?
Originally posted by dAngEr_Is_gO!
Weapon upgrades that increase combo ability, button tap combos to escape certain situations. The whole combat structure. In my opinion Ninja Gaiden just does it better.
And if you start up about how Ninja Gaiden borrowed it off game x (which it no doubt does), I will personally slap you because you can pitch that circular argument at the vast majority of games these days. As I said before NG just does it better.
As for the camera angles, have you played any survival horror games lately?
I just dont see where it comes from. I can see the similarity between the two games, but all fighting games of the sort are ALWAYS similar. Ninja gaiden wasnt the first to do what it did. It elaborated a bit to make the gameplay seem more challenging. God of war never tried to be anyhting more than a pretty hack and slash game. Yeah, survival horror games have pitiful camera angles, but none are as unforgivable as the camera system for ninja gaiden. NG would have had a 10 in my book if it werent for the camera system, however, it gets only a 7. There is no reaosn the camera needs to move when my avatar is not changing direction.