Originally posted by Whirlysplattdontgetit I wanna understand
Not really 89 people have responded of those 89, 29 feel there is a problem.The sample group is to small really to show anything with any validity and the people who respond to this thread are more likely to see a problem than those that do not respond to this thread. It has in statistical terms- 0 validity as the p value = less than 1 to a max of 1, off the top of my head. This means that it has no value statistically.
i think kmc is fine...as more members join there is bound to be a few more problems, all we need is a couple of more mods from different timezones. and possibly create a new forum for complete sillyness, like the off topic forum has become..then at least there can be no complaint if someone makes a stupid thread. Overall though i think kmc is doing fine.
Originally posted by Deano
i think kmc is fine...as more members join there is bound to be a few more problems, all we need is a couple of more mods from different timezones. and possibly create a new forum for complete sillyness, like the off topic forum has become..then at least there can be no complaint if someone makes a stupid thread. Overall though i think kmc is doing fine.
It worries me that we agree Deano 😛
j/k
😄
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Not really 89 people have responded of those 89, 29 feel there is a problem.The sample group is to small really to show anything with any validity and the people who respond to this thread are more likely to see a problem than those that do not respond to this thread. It has in statistical terms- 0 validity as the p value = less than 1 to a max of 1, off the top of my head. This means that it has no value statistically.
29 people feel there's a definite problem, 29 feel there may be a problem.
Also, people may have changed their minds since voting and you can't vote twice.
Originally posted by Deano
i think kmc is fine...as more members join there is bound to be a few more problems, all we need is a couple of more mods from different timezones. and possibly create a new forum for complete sillyness, like the off topic forum has become..then at least there can be no complaint if someone makes a stupid thread. Overall though i think kmc is doing fine.
That's all I want, personally. I tend to make things bigger than they are.
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
You know I disagree about this Cine, and I still believe that passing trade will continually cause these problems, although spam threads are annoying. I also believe stupidity is not a crime and some people are stupid, not malicious and that forums requirements for modding vary, e.g. a forum with vs in it... is certain to have a higher level of conflict than most.
The OTF serves a valuable function of keeping silly threads out of the other forums. More than anything I get worried about..... and you can call me politically correct, (I don't really care) I worry about the threads which are semi racist or sexist in nature, not exactly flames more subtle than that...... I mean we had a "girl" (probably a bloke) come on calling herself Whiteracistgirl and that is not right. The word Chav keeps being used and that means "boy" in Romany and to a traveller like me is offensive. These things are more worrying than the odd "odd" individual imo.
I still think that this type of thread produces hierarchical attitudes and I do though acknowledge many of you on this thread have been here a long time and know each other well(as well as you can on an Internet forum that is). But I notice only the same people a small part of KMC contibuting and don't think this has changed in the last month.The poll which has "no" statistical validity......... Is split almost exactly down the middle and despite a months gap and an increase in numbers who have posted on it this has not changed, since I last posted on this thread.
you said cine yet quoted me... 😕
and you and i have gone through a similar argument in the vs forum... 😛
Originally posted by Lana
29 people feel there's a definite problem, 29 feel there may be a problem.Also, people may have changed their minds since voting and you can't vote twice.
Indeed people might change there minds either way and yes 29 are "unsure". The sample group is by definition to small to have any statistical validity and is "unsafe". The question is well presented and offers no bias in favour of any of the three options for response. The sample group though brings the methodology into question. This is only my observation of the people who have posted - many of whom I like and respect. Howeve,r they are "mostly","long term members" and they feel a greater stake in KMC perhaps than others, maybe even hearken back to "good old days" which may or may not have existed here. The nature of forums, in my opinion and I am sure many posters well 29 at least 😛 will disagree, is that forums are dynamic on line communities and new people will behave slightly differently to old, these differences may be part of the problem. The net has changed greatly since I first went on line in 93. People are looking for a "quick hit" more. I don't know enough about KMC to comment on whether the forum runs advertising or whether the advertising runs the forum this is not my business and of no interest to me. However short term members are what keep forums alive, most people who become long term members will moderate towards the said forums accepted "group think mean". The others will leave.
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
We have sorry pr, you also know mu opinions very well on this sort of thing lol 😛🙂
i do... and you know mine... 😛
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Indeed people might change there minds either way and yes 29 are "unsure". The sample group is by definition to small to have any statistical validity and is "unsafe". The question is well presented and offers no bias in favour of any of the three options for response. The sample group though brings the methodology into question. This is only my observation of the people who have posted - many of whom I like and respect. Howeve,r they are "mostly","long term members" and they feel a greater stake in KMC perhaps than others, maybe even hearken back to "good old days" which may or may not have existed here. The nature of forums, in my opinion and I am sure many posters well 29 at least 😛 will disagree, is that forums are dynamic on line communities and new people will behave slightly differently to old, these differences may be part of the problem. The net has changed greatly since I first went on line in 93. People are looking for a "quick hit" more. I don't know enough about KMC to comment on whether the forum runs advertising or whether the advertising runs the forum this is not my business and of no interest to me. However short term members are what keep forums alive, most people who become long term members will moderate towards the said forums accepted "group think mean". The others will leave.
There's nothing wrong with new members... its how they incorporate into the forums that matter...
Older members are not completely to blame, nor are the newer members completely to blame either...
but imo...
there aren't enough mods, or restrictions on thread creation and so forth...
Originally posted by pr1983
i do... and you know mine... 😛There's nothing wrong with new members... its how they incorporate into the forums that matter...
Older members are not completely to blame, nor are the newer members completely to blame either...
but imo...
there aren't enough mods, or restrictions on thread creation and so forth...
The thread creation issue is one we pr, considering the forum area we spend a fair amount of time in, is probably more noticeable and more of a problem to us. That Forum will always suffer from this as you can only do so many match-ups, and many very young people frequent it. Apart from off topic in my opinion most other forums besides the comics don't really get spammed much and sometimes with the comic its an in joke amongst regular members. I just don't think stupidity is a crime and it would be easy for changes to make it less fun.