they never did heroin, only one got shot.
actually their contemporaries were their largest influences (Rubber Soul influenced Pet Sounds which in turn influenced Sgt Pepper's). You can discount it as only the drugs, but you have to realize - everyone was doing LSD at the time. Or nearly everyone. Taking LSD was no big deal, it was something that most musicians did.
Originally posted by jaden101
indeed...i totally agree and in fact said the same thing almost word for word in another threadi'm thouroughly shocked...given your distaste for the "NMEish" bands...i thought you wouldn't be a fan...
The thing about NME is, there are bands they like to boost the magazine's pathetic image as trendsetters, and there are bands that are actual NME bedwetting lame music.
The Strokes are just unfortunate that the NME fellate them: they aren't 'NME type music' as such.
Your makin a fool out your self AC, you said that if it can be messured then ofcourse, the one thats higher messured most by all means be better, soa in a way your saying that Thin Lizzy singer, Nirvanna singer, Slayer singer or maybe Ozzy is a better singer then Bon Jovi, they sing better? they have a better singer voice? Now take a listen to Sebastian Bach, not the composer, but the singer in Skid Row, or listen to a band called Steelheart, the singer in Europe Joey Tempest, or Goran Edman, its really comon knowleage that these hard rock guys have the voice superiour to most of the bands you guys are listening to, now to play, technicly Yngwie Malmsteen, Kee Marcello, Mattias IV, Steve Vai at the top when speakin techinicly, they own that lame guy in SoD, speakin about SoD, that guy CANT SING, ask anyone knowleagable about singing, they know it, hes a freakin faker!
Originally posted by Lord_Andres
Your makin a fool out your self AC, you said that if it can be messured then ofcourse, the one thats higher messured most by all means be better
No, it doesn't. At all. Not overall.
Is Joe Satriani a better technical player than Hendrix was? Yes. Was he a better guitarist as a result? No.
Originally posted by Lord_Andres
soa in a way your saying that Thin Lizzy singer, Nirvanna singer, Slayer singer or maybe Ozzy is a better singer then Bon Jovi, they sing better? they have a better singer voice?
Yes, because Bon Jovi is a talentless Pop-Hair Metal retard who tried to fit in with about 3 different scenes before settling in on making party music for women.
Originally posted by Lord_Andres
Now take a listen to Sebastian Bach, not the composer, but the singer in Skid Row, or listen to a band called Steelheart, the singer in Europe Joey Tempest, or Goran Edman, its really comon knowleage that these hard rock guys have the voice superiour to most of the bands you guys are listening to
Nobody you've mentioned is better than anyone I like.
You can reply saying "Yeah they are" but they're not. It's one of those borderline facts I mentioned.
Originally posted by Lord_Andres
now to play, technicly Yngwie Malmsteen, Kee Marcello, Mattias IV, Steve Vai at the top when speakin techinicly, they own that lame guy in SoD, speakin about SoD, that guy CANT SING, ask anyone knowleagable about singing, they know it, hes a freakin faker!
Man, you actually know absolutely NOTHING about music.
I've seen some shockers on here, but you really do not know anything. At all.
That's no insult, I just feel brain cells dying when I read your post.
-AC
oh dear, everybody knows that Skid Row's music is called Hard/Melodic Rock, and if you seriously think Bon jovi cant sing, then your dead wrong, you know nuthing about the matter, I dont want to argue with you about what a good singer if you think Sebastian Bach and Bon jovi are bad, when you think grunge singers are better, that kinda talks for itself, you have no clue what your in about, and you must be loosing all your braincells cause when reading my posts you see how stupit your opinion is and how right I am, thats simple truth.
Originally posted by Lord_Andres
oh dear, everybody knows that Skid Row's music is called Hard/Melodic Rock, and if you seriously think Bon jovi cant sing, then your dead wrong, you know nuthing about the matter, I dont want to argue with you about what a good singer if you think Sebastian Bach and Bon jovi are bad, when you think grunge singers are better, that kinda talks for itself, you have no clue what your in about, and you must be loosing all your braincells cause when reading my posts you see how stupit your opinion is and how right I am, thats simple truth.
Dude, you're f*cking clueless.
Seriously.
-AC
Originally posted by Lord_Andres
oh dear, everybody knows that Skid Row's music is called Hard/Melodic Rock, and if you seriously think Bon jovi cant sing, then your dead wrong, you know nuthing about the matter, I dont want to argue with you about what a good singer if you think Sebastian Bach and Bon jovi are bad, when you think grunge singers are better, that kinda talks for itself, you have no clue what your in about, and you must be loosing all your braincells cause when reading my posts you see how stupit your opinion is and how right I am, thats simple truth.
You apparently have no clue of 1) what good music is, and 2) what different musical genres are.
Originally posted by Tptmanno1
Phhs.
Opeth's singer is better than any of the people you mentioned.
And half of what he does is Growl-y yellish metal... But his voice is just amazing when he's lyrical.
and don't even get into MJK.... Only guy I've heard sing 5 part harmony with himself.
Agreed, on both parts.
(Yeah, I've been listening to Opeth 😛)
Bon Jovi does not have a great voice. He has, what, a 2 octave range? Jeff Buckley had a six octave range - he could hit the high notes (Corpus Christi Carol) and do a pretty good hard rock growl (Eternal Life live version). Bon Jovi would sell his right testicle to have half the voice that Jeff or his father Tim had.
Alright I took a listen to that fella Jeff.B I must say he dosent have a bad voice, infact he's quite good, makes good songs too, I listend to hallelujah and Lover, You Should've Come Over good stuff that I could use to listen to when I come home from work and just wanna takle a break, but I wasint arguing with you about signing, I was saying that SoD, Slipknot, Slayer, Cradle of Filth, Tool, Thin Lizzy, Ozzy, and yeah i think that was it, where all much worse then Jon Bon Jovi, Sebastian Bach (Skid Row singer), Mike Matijevic (steelheart sionger), hell Rishie Sambora is even better then those singers, I also took a listen to TooL I listened to 2 songs 'The Grudge' and 'The Patient' and I couldint belive what I was hearing, it was a really bad singer somehow it reminded me of the Slipknot singer from time to time he had that dreadful dead voice, I took 2 listenes to each song, and I only got a headache out of it, now since I was so nice to take a lsiten to those songs I want you AC to listen to this song and tell me he is a bad singer afterwards, electric your welcome to listen aswell, I know you can tell how good he is, this is a song by Steelheart, just press link and look at the lower right corner, you'l see a list there its the one lsited Nr'5 She's Gone, right click it, then 'save as' and it only takes very small amout of space, then open it with media player after you've downladoed it,s hould work
...okay.
If you say Maynard James Keenan, the singer of Tool and someone who is highly praised as a singer, is a bad singer, you obviously have some sort of hearing problem.
I'm listening to The Grudge right now, it being one of my favorite Tool songs. I cannot think of where your comparison between MJK and Corey Taylor has come from, as they sound NOTHING alike.
You've heard TWO Tool songs. Not nearly enough to give any sort of opinion, for one thing. And if you want to hear exactly how much MJK's singing can range, go listen to 3 Libras or Orestes by A Perfect Circle. The man is a great singer.
I'm sorry, but by saying that Maynard James Keenan is a terrible singer, you've completely and totally invalidated any musical opinion you may have.
Originally posted by Lord_Andres
Alright I took a listen to that fella Jeff.B I must say he dosent have a bad voice, infact he's quite good, makes good songs too, I listend to hallelujah and Lover, You Should've Come Over good stuff that I could use to listen to when I come home from work and just wanna takle a break, but I wasint arguing with you about signing, I was saying that SoD, Slipknot, Slayer, Cradle of Filth, Tool, Thin Lizzy, Ozzy, and yeah i think that was it, where all much worse then Jon Bon Jovi, Sebastian Bach (Skid Row singer), Mike Matijevic (steelheart sionger), hell Rishie Sambora is even better then those singers, I also took a listen to TooL I listened to 2 songs 'The Grudge' and 'The Patient' and I couldint belive what I was hearing, it was a really bad singer somehow it reminded me of the Slipknot singer from time to time he had that dreadful dead voice, I took 2 listenes to each song, and I only got a headache out of it, now since I was so nice to take a lsiten to those songs I want you AC to listen to this song and tell me he is a bad singer afterwards, electric your welcome to listen aswell, I know you can tell how good he is, this is a song by Steelheart, just press link and look at the lower right corner, you'l see a list there its the one lsited Nr'5 She's Gone, right click it, then 'save as' and it only takes very small amout of space, then open it with media player after you've downladoed it,s hould work
Fine, go Download The Fiddle and The Drum, By A Perfect Circle, off the album Emotive. And TRY to tell me why exactly MJK is worse than what you posted?
Oh it could ahve been in 'The Patient' it was deffently in one of them, he has that same dead voice not trough the whole song but its there when he sings a bit slower, I could hear it right away, I didint mean Corey screaming but in some of the songs on their Vol.3 he aint screaming all, there is just no power in their voices
I downloaded that song you linked.....
Wow, that was terrible.
Originally posted by Tptmanno1
The Patient is one of his best songs...
Obviously you have no clue what your talking about...
Go back to your MTV...
Agreed. If you can think that Bon Jovi and that crap you linked is better than MJK....well, you must be deaf or something.
Maynard James Keenan is an INCREDIBLY expressive singer, I've never heard any of his songs where he sounded flat or dead, as you put it. And being as I own every Tool and APC CD, plus have heard a lot of his collabs he's done with other groups....I'd say that my opinion on his singing ability is a hell of a lot more educated than yours.
You do all realise that you're arguing with a Bon Jovi fan about who is better out of Tool....and Bon Jovi?
The only reason I'm posting again is this.
Andres....did you say Jeff Buckley doesn't have a "bad voice"? The man is possibly the greatest singer of all time. That's not actually up for debate either.
Reflection is probably Maynard's best vocal performance.
-AC