true Bon Jovi is many leagues ahead, and Tool singer aint shit, he is deepshit, Jeff is good though, but Tool 😂 no where close, hell he is on par with Corey Taylor, need I say more? ina sometime you'l grow very tired of those crap bands Slip, when I was 12 I loved Slipknot and the rest of the crap, but took only a half year or so then gave the cd's away, but you still like those bands... oh well you'l see what I mean ina few years, you'l hate slipknot, I know you will
Originally posted by Lord_Andres
true Bon Jovi is many leagues ahead, and Tool singer aint shit, he is deepshit, Jeff is good though, but Tool 😂 no where close, hell he is on par with Corey Taylor, need I say more? ina sometime you'l grow very tired of those crap bands Slip, when I was 12 I loved Slipknot and the rest of the crap, but took only a half year or so then gave the cd's away, but you still like those bands... oh well you'l see what I mean ina few years, you'l hate slipknot, I know you will
You truly, truly have less sense than continually returning battered wives.
On that note, why are people referencing APC tracks? Maynard's best performances are all on Tool tracks. APC is just standard melodic rock.
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
On that note, why are people referencing APC tracks? Maynard's best performances are all on Tool tracks. APC is just standard melodic rock.
Sorry to pick up on the passing point again, but although I agree he has produced superior performances with Tool, I think it's a little unfair to call the band that produced the superbly fabulous Thirteenth Step ''standard melodic rock'' 😬
My opinion anyway.
Originally posted by Deathblow
Sorry to pick up on the passing point again, but although I agree he has produced superior performances with Tool, I think it's a little unfair to call the band that produced the superbly fabulous Thirteenth Step ''standard melodic rock'' 😬My opinion anyway.
I think they are a lot better than most other good bands out there. I just don't think APC is anything 'non-standard' in the sense of being alarmingly different or better than other great similar bands.
Tool on the other hand, to me, are one of the few that reinvent the wheel as it were.
Not to mention that Emotive was ******* **** 8******* ****88*** crap.
Re: Opinions on Old Music
Originally posted by Tptmanno1So when you say older music you mean classic rock only?
You know older bands like The Beatles and The Rolling Stones up to the 70's rock area. I was just wondering what people thought about these bands and their revalance today.Personaly I think most to overrated, a fleeting memory from people that euphamize the past. The past had been built on. If it took Bands like Rolling Stones and Beatles to create Tool (I'm not saying it was direct like that, but by musical evolution...) And if say Porcupine Tree took what Pink Floyd did and improved upon it, does that mean the original band is better? Is Tool better than The Beatles, yes. Porcupine Tree better than Floyd? Possibly (This might not be an exact example, but you know what I mean) The past was fine, but todays Bands have perfected/improved upon thier acheivements and become even better.
Your thoughts?
I don't hold the Beatles as high as I used to but I still do like them.. I don't listen to them very often but I do put on Abbey Road or Magical Mystery Tour from time to time.
Now I'm more into bands like Rush (thanks to people on this site always talking about how good they are) and some of Pink Floyd's stuff and I don't find them inferior to newer rock bands at all. But I really don't see why people here seem to think that all music has to be compared to Tool or Radiohead or whatnot before it can gain any credibility.
Public Enemy are one of my favorite rap groups ever but I don't use them to try and debunk rappers that I feel are inferior to them. If I think a rapper/band sucks it's because I don't like listening to their music, not because they can't live up to my favorite artist. Just a thought.
Hmm, seems as though people have very strong opinions on the music they like; I commend you all on it.
Personnally, which this entire topic is about, I think old music has been influential on many new artists and groups. As for the Beatles, I'm not a huge fan, but they're pretty good. I like bands like Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and Rush for kinda psychedelic/ progressive/ hard rock at the time. I also like "southern" rock bands like Lynyrd Skynyrd and Creedence Clearwater Revival for a kind of mesh of country and rock.
All those from the 60's & 70's went psychedelic except for The KinKs, while everyone was ingesting LSD & so on
The KinKs stayed true to Rock 'n' Roll in it's general form and stayed away from the drugs, only thing was the two Davies brothers fighting all the time.
They are the most underrated band of that era and beyond into the 80's & 90's.
Their music never really reached the full commercial hype that it could have, due to the efforts of front man Ray Davies, constructing situations where things would go wrong in the studio and getting the timing not so perfect on a couple of recordings
over 30 + albums between 1964 to 1997 with The KinKs.
As the other bands were swept up into the mass media and he press, The KinKs vacated out the back entrance of the premises no matter where they were. That is the reason why still today they can all walk down the street in your local address
and not be recognized.
Originally posted by The Highlord
t.... t.............. talent? now all of a sudden slipknot has any talent? where? when did this happen? I've heard their new vol.3 cd, its all the same crap, the singer sounds dead, the guitar is nuthing I repeat nuthing close to 'one of the greatest metal guitarists in the world' all he dose is make souds that makes one want to just break the damn stereo, its so bad, hey take a listen to Bon Jovi's Wanted Dead Or Alive guitar play, now thats something, thats worthy of rememberance!
Actually, some of the individual members of Slipknot have a fair amount of talent. They just don't do much with it. Just because someone's talented doesn't mean they make good music.
You're only referencing the music they make. Yet you say they have no talent. Sorry, but you fail.
Originally posted by The Highlord
true Bon Jovi is many leagues ahead, and Tool singer aint shit, he is deepshit, Jeff is good though, but Tool 😂 no where close, hell he is on par with Corey Taylor, need I say more? ina sometime you'l grow very tired of those crap bands Slip, when I was 12 I loved Slipknot and the rest of the crap, but took only a half year or so then gave the cd's away, but you still like those bands... oh well you'l see what I mean ina few years, you'l hate slipknot, I know you will
That's a waffle roffler. The day MJK is on the same vocal/lyrical level as Corey Taylor is the day that Marilyn Manson gets "saved".