Loki vs. Dr. Strange

Started by the ninjak4 pages

I was always under the impression that bestowed the Sorcerer Supreme made one amped. Not just a title. Why else would so many fight to obtain it?

It's definitely the case now.

My interpretation of sorcerer supreme was less of an amp and more of what types of support you get for being sorceror supreme. Kind of like an agreement for many deities and powers in the universe/multiverse to assist the sorcerer supreme when it's needed regardless of alignment to prevent the universe in question from running down the drain. I mean even if you want to conquer said universe its kind of hard to do if it gets wasted or conquered by another deity/uber being.

That's more along the lines of what I was thinking. Strange trained for a long time to gain the title. When he finally he did, I don't remember there being some 100x amp. He seemed to access greater levels of power easier is all even before that, he could call on the Vishanti, Dormammu etc. There's a reason why only the best sorcerer gets the title.

Originally posted by the ninjak
I was always under the impression that bestowed the Sorcerer Supreme made one amped. Not just a title. Why else would so many fight to obtain it?

It's definitely the case now.

That's most definitely the case currently but I'm not sure if it was the stance back in the day. I could be wrong, but I want to clarify this.

Originally posted by long pig
What? Of course it's not just a title. How could you possibly comment on a character you obviously know lack about. Strange was herald level as master mystic arts, but when he became SS, he became 100x more powerful because he was givin all of the ancient one's power, who was easily odin level, on top of his own. All the times he fought loki he was less than half a percent powerwise than he was after being SS. That. why Strange would slaughter loki.

When he became the Sorcerer Supreme, the Ancient One's power was stacked upon his own and he became a 100 times more powerful? He is almost 99% more powerful than he was against his fight with Loki?

ermm

Are you certain about this? Not that I don't trust you -okay I don't but whatever- but can I have an issue number? If you're right, you're right, I'll concede, but this just doesn't....sound right.

Either way, Loki was kicking his ass with only a fraction of his power.

I'm no expert on Strange but I know enough about the character to give an opinion. I just haven't read his old issues in a long time.

Originally posted by Uriel005
My interpretation of sorcerer supreme was less of an amp and more of what types of support you get for being sorceror supreme. Kind of like an agreement for many deities and powers in the universe/multiverse to assist the sorcerer supreme when it's needed regardless of alignment to prevent the universe in question from running down the drain. I mean even if you want to conquer said universe its kind of hard to do if it gets wasted or conquered by another deity/uber being.

Nice posts and I agree with the above.

Though suddenly being able to harness and access spells and enchantments which would normally require some kind agreement or affiliation to a deity is definitely an amp to sorcerers. I sometimes use the term amp loosely.

The title probably gave him access to a wider range of deities and perhaps more power. He definitely got more powerful over the years, as his knowledge grew etc.

Still, I don't remember the shit Long Pig is mentioning. I'll have to dig up my collection to double check. I'm no expert and it's been a while.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The title probably gave him access to a wider range of deities and perhaps more power. He definitely got more powerful over the years, as his knowledge grew etc.

👆 That's why in the recent Strange lim series he wasn't in favour of such entities and had to make deals and apologies to them on occasions. One even rose up and consumed one of his students.

But he was still able to conduct surgery on Eternity to save the galaxy from a demon who simply broke one of the universal rules.

Strange currently is not the Sorcerer Supreme, and as such, has lost the backing of the Vishanti, Cyttorak, and all the other deities. He can still invoke them, but as Sorcerer Supreme, his power reserves are higher and he gets various perks as part of the deal, like the immortality, etc.

As Dr. Strange, master of the mystic arts, he's depowered and they're much less likely to listen or deliver aid.

So if becoming Sorcerer Supreme makes you more powerful does becoming Scientist Supreme make you smarter? 😛

There's a scientist supreme? hmm

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
There's a scientist supreme? hmm
Pym, So says Eternity.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Pym, So says Eternity.
Eternity is full of hot air... He is also a deserving contender of the title jobber supreme

Originally posted by Omega Vision
So if becoming Sorcerer Supreme makes you more powerful does becoming Scientist Supreme make you smarter? 😛

It just makes you that much more badass.

Hank fuggin' Pym ftw.

Pym Rules!

**** him. And **** that jobber Eternity.

That's Bendis talk right there.

**** Bendis too. The man is a complete hack. durfist

I agree with the above, but not your previous statement. uhuh

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
**** Bendis too. The man is a complete hack. durfist
Watch what you say about the man who gave me some of Void/Sentry's greatest. I like bendis.

He also basically ruined the Avengers franchise and gave us some less than stellar Avengers as a replacement. Not to mention the mess of a character that is Wanda Maximoff.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He also basically ruined the Avengers franchise and gave us some less than stellar Avengers as a replacement. Not to mention the mess of a character that is Wanda Maximoff.
I really enjoyed the dark avengers and the buildup to Siege. I actually like norman osborne now. Most don't like his work or feel it spirals out of control but he does stir controversy well like me so it should be no surprise I like him.